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moderated Re: Notify all Owners (and Moderators with the Billing privilege) when Billing Cycle Up #suggestion

 

Hi Bruce,

On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 8:21 AM Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:
Mark -- Please check my understanding on the following topic that recently came up in GMF:

-- A group can have only one Payor
-- That Payor (and he alone) is notified when a group's billing cycle is up.
-- The group's co-Owners are notified only if the Payor's account has been deleted. (The key point here).
-- A Moderator with the Billing privilege is never notified at all, unless he happens to be the current Payor.

That is correct.

 
Unless there's a fine point that I'm missing (or hasn't been adequately documented), it seems appropriate to send the warning messages to more people than just the current Payor when a billing cycle runs into a glitch. 

You've brought up a good point. I've changed it so that the one week past due warning gets sent to all moderators as well as the two week past due downgrade notice.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Notify all Owners (and Moderators with the Billing privilege) when Billing Cycle Up #suggestion

Bruce Bowman
 

Mark -- Please check my understanding on the following topic that recently came up in GMF:

-- A group can have only one Payor
-- That Payor (and he alone) is notified when a group's billing cycle is up.
-- The group's co-Owners are notified only if the Payor's account has been deleted. (The key point here).
-- A Moderator with the Billing privilege is never notified at all, unless he happens to be the current Payor.

Ref: https://groups.io/helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/about-groups-io-billing 

What if a Payor has died? Will his heirs know to log in and delete his account? No...his account remains active; so all notifications and warnings continue to be sent there. Ultimately, the group gets silently downgraded. 

Unless there's a fine point that I'm missing (or hasn't been adequately documented), it seems appropriate to send the warning messages to more people than just the current Payor when a billing cycle runs into a glitch. 

Thanks for your consideration,
Bruce 


moderated #suggestion Add topic creation date and last reply date to digest email and group topic list #suggestion

Mark Murphy
 

On digest emails, it would be useful to add topic creation date and last reply date to each topic in the list of New Replies. Among other things this would indicate new replies to "old" posts, as well as the age of the topic.

It would also be useful to add these dates to the group's topic list.

For example:





Thank you.


moderated Re: one page to see all pending messages #suggestion

Andy Wedge
 

Hi Mark,

On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 10:32 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 2:30 PM Andy Wedge <andy_wedge@...> wrote:

There are no Edit and Reject buttons on this display like there are for pending messages on individual groups.  Can we add those please?

I didn't add Reject because, which member notices would I include?
 
The precedent for this is already set in the way that the Edit & Reject options are used when there are multiple pending messages on a single group. In that case, if multiple messages are selected, the Edit button is deactivated. The Reject button is still active and the Reason For Rejection panel allows the selection of a pre-defined notice (if there is one). So, on screen https://groups.io/pendingmsgs, if multiple messages are selected, deactivate the Edit button and if those messages are from different groups, deactivate the Reject button too.  If all messages selected are from the same group, the Reject button stays active and the Reason For Rejection panel allows selection of a notice from the group they relate to..

Andy


moderated Re: one page to see all pending messages #suggestion

Andy Wedge
 

On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 11:33 PM, Christos Psarras wrote:
adding the group name to the list as a sortable column could make it even handier.
All of the groups I am in, including this one use the subject-tag to identify the group in some way so sorting by the subject already achieves this.

Andy


moderated Re: Merge subject retention problem and/or Broken threading problem #bug

 

>>> A “cut and splice” feature.

Yep, like we used to do with cassette tapes back when!


moderated Re: Merge subject retention problem and/or Broken threading problem #bug

 

Typo, should read “splice”


On Oct 13, 2021, at 5:07 PM, J_Catlady via groups.io <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

A “cut and slice” feature. 😀


On Oct 13, 2021, at 4:47 PM, Christos Psarras <christos@...> wrote:



>>> I just stopped merging whenever possible.

Yeah, I didn't have a choice in this case, because when I initially split the topic (which works fine), there were some later messages carried over to the new off-topic thread that had to be moved back to the old topic as they belonged there, so I had to then play that back-n-forth split & merge game to corral the messages back to their correct pens ... the joys of having an unmoderated group with no subject discipline and a worn-out flogging stick.

What would make something like this a lot easier would be to be able to multi-select individual messages within a topic and either do a Split-into-new-topic or Merge/Move-into-existing-topic, maybe something like the /topics-test page.  (#sneakysuggestion)

Cheers,
Christos

 


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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Merge subject retention problem and/or Broken threading problem #bug

 

A “cut and slice” feature. 😀


On Oct 13, 2021, at 4:47 PM, Christos Psarras <christos@...> wrote:



>>> I just stopped merging whenever possible.

Yeah, I didn't have a choice in this case, because when I initially split the topic (which works fine), there were some later messages carried over to the new off-topic thread that had to be moved back to the old topic as they belonged there, so I had to then play that back-n-forth split & merge game to corral the messages back to their correct pens ... the joys of having an unmoderated group with no subject discipline and a worn-out flogging stick.

What would make something like this a lot easier would be to be able to multi-select individual messages within a topic and either do a Split-into-new-topic or Merge/Move-into-existing-topic, maybe something like the /topics-test page.  (#sneakysuggestion)

Cheers,
Christos

 


--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Merge subject retention problem and/or Broken threading problem #bug

 

>>> I just stopped merging whenever possible.

Yeah, I didn't have a choice in this case, because when I initially split the topic (which works fine), there were some later messages carried over to the new off-topic thread that had to be moved back to the old topic as they belonged there, so I had to then play that back-n-forth split & merge game to corral the messages back to their correct pens ... the joys of having an unmoderated group with no subject discipline and a worn-out flogging stick.

What would make something like this a lot easier would be to be able to multi-select individual messages within a topic and either do a Split-into-new-topic or Merge/Move-into-existing-topic, maybe something like the /topics-test page.  (#sneakysuggestion)

Cheers,
Christos

 


moderated Re: one page to see all pending messages #suggestion

 

Thanks Mark, that page is indeed useful.

As an enhancement suggestion, in your spare time of course, adding the group name to the list as a sortable column could make it even handier.

Cheers,
Christos


moderated Re: When editing a pending message, allow selection of notices when rejecting the message #suggestion

 

That makes sense.


On Oct 13, 2021, at 2:25 PM, Andy Wedge <andy_wedge@...> wrote:

On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 03:46 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
Why would you want both "edit" and "reject" simultaneously? 
There is already a reject option when you edit a pending message. I just want the option to select one of my pre-defined rejection notices if I decide that rather than continue with an edit, the message should be rejected. Currently a blank rejection notice panel is displayed and I don't see why I should need to type in new message text when I already have the text in a notice that I can select when rejecting the same message via a slightly different route.

Andy

--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: one page to see all pending messages #suggestion

 

On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 2:30 PM Andy Wedge <andy_wedge@...> wrote:

There are no Edit and Reject buttons on this display like there are for pending messages on individual groups.  Can we add those please?

I didn't add Reject because, which member notices would I include?

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: one page to see all pending messages #suggestion

Andy Wedge
 

On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 09:11 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
I have added this. Now when you go to https://groups.io, or to your enterprise domain, there is a new 'Pending' sidebar entry where you can view all the pending messages for all of your groups.
There are no Edit and Reject buttons on this display like there are for pending messages on individual groups.  Can we add those please?

Thanks
Andy


moderated Re: When editing a pending message, allow selection of notices when rejecting the message #suggestion

Andy Wedge
 

On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 03:46 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
Why would you want both "edit" and "reject" simultaneously? 
There is already a reject option when you edit a pending message. I just want the option to select one of my pre-defined rejection notices if I decide that rather than continue with an edit, the message should be rejected. Currently a blank rejection notice panel is displayed and I don't see why I should need to type in new message text when I already have the text in a notice that I can select when rejecting the same message via a slightly different route.

Andy


moderated Hashtag Duration options #suggestion

Tom Vail
 

Currently the options for hashtag durations jumps from 1 month to 1 year...big jump.  I would like to see a couple of intermediate options like 3 months and 6 months.

Thanks for considering it.

Peace,
Tom


moderated Re: one page to see all pending messages #suggestion

 

On Fri, Oct 8, 2021 at 6:56 AM Ry Jones <rjones@...> wrote:
I would like one page to visit where I can see all pending messages for all of my mailing lists. Right now, I can see that I have a dozen or so pending messages (mostly spam) across all of my lists, but then I have to go click several times to delete them all, or to approve the rare message I should approve.

I have added this. Now when you go to https://groups.io, or to your enterprise domain, there is a new 'Pending' sidebar entry where you can view all the pending messages for all of your groups.

Cheers,
Mark 


moderated Re: Hashtag duration conflict - who wins? #misc

Andy
 

The way I see it, the Hashtag Topic Duration indicates when to delete a Topic, not necessarily a specification of the Topic's ultimate lifetime.  A Hashtag duration of "Forever" is more like "Not limited" or "None", meaning that this Hashtag won't cause the Topic to be deleted.  But having a duration of "Forever" is not a guarantee that the topic lasts forever and you can never delete it, either with another Hashtag or manually.  That's how I see it.

Perhaps use of the word "Forever" is misleading?

I use a few Hashtags here and there, most without any Topic Duration.  The ones with a limited Topic Duration cause the topic to be deleted, even if another Hashtag was  attached.

Andy


moderated Re: 14-day expired pending member does not generate a log entry #bug #suggestion

 

🤣🤣🤣


On Oct 13, 2021, at 10:14 AM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:


On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 10:10 AM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

Every month my group gets the “topic deleted by system due to expired hashtag” log entry for our group guidelines.

Oops. Nevermind, can't read my own code.....

Mark 

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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: 14-day expired pending member does not generate a log entry #bug #suggestion

 

On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 10:10 AM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

Every month my group gets the “topic deleted by system due to expired hashtag” log entry for our group guidelines.

Oops. Nevermind, can't read my own code.....

Mark 


moderated Re: Allow manual sending of Monthly Reminder as a "notice type" in send member message #suggestion

 

On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 7:13 AM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
Tried again. All I get is Group Guidelines and Pending Subscription. Odd. This topic should change to #bug.

This has been fixed.

Thanks,
Mark 

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