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moderated Re: When editing a pending message, allow selection of notices when rejecting the message #suggestion

 

That makes sense.


On Oct 13, 2021, at 2:25 PM, Andy Wedge <andy_wedge@...> wrote:

On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 03:46 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
Why would you want both "edit" and "reject" simultaneously? 
There is already a reject option when you edit a pending message. I just want the option to select one of my pre-defined rejection notices if I decide that rather than continue with an edit, the message should be rejected. Currently a blank rejection notice panel is displayed and I don't see why I should need to type in new message text when I already have the text in a notice that I can select when rejecting the same message via a slightly different route.

Andy

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moderated Re: one page to see all pending messages #suggestion

 

On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 2:30 PM Andy Wedge <andy_wedge@...> wrote:

There are no Edit and Reject buttons on this display like there are for pending messages on individual groups.  Can we add those please?

I didn't add Reject because, which member notices would I include?

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: one page to see all pending messages #suggestion

Andy Wedge
 

On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 09:11 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
I have added this. Now when you go to https://groups.io, or to your enterprise domain, there is a new 'Pending' sidebar entry where you can view all the pending messages for all of your groups.
There are no Edit and Reject buttons on this display like there are for pending messages on individual groups.  Can we add those please?

Thanks
Andy


moderated Re: When editing a pending message, allow selection of notices when rejecting the message #suggestion

Andy Wedge
 

On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 03:46 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
Why would you want both "edit" and "reject" simultaneously? 
There is already a reject option when you edit a pending message. I just want the option to select one of my pre-defined rejection notices if I decide that rather than continue with an edit, the message should be rejected. Currently a blank rejection notice panel is displayed and I don't see why I should need to type in new message text when I already have the text in a notice that I can select when rejecting the same message via a slightly different route.

Andy


moderated Hashtag Duration options #suggestion

Tom Vail
 

Currently the options for hashtag durations jumps from 1 month to 1 year...big jump.  I would like to see a couple of intermediate options like 3 months and 6 months.

Thanks for considering it.

Peace,
Tom


moderated Re: one page to see all pending messages #suggestion

 

On Fri, Oct 8, 2021 at 6:56 AM Ry Jones <rjones@...> wrote:
I would like one page to visit where I can see all pending messages for all of my mailing lists. Right now, I can see that I have a dozen or so pending messages (mostly spam) across all of my lists, but then I have to go click several times to delete them all, or to approve the rare message I should approve.

I have added this. Now when you go to https://groups.io, or to your enterprise domain, there is a new 'Pending' sidebar entry where you can view all the pending messages for all of your groups.

Cheers,
Mark 


moderated Re: Hashtag duration conflict - who wins? #misc

Andy
 

The way I see it, the Hashtag Topic Duration indicates when to delete a Topic, not necessarily a specification of the Topic's ultimate lifetime.  A Hashtag duration of "Forever" is more like "Not limited" or "None", meaning that this Hashtag won't cause the Topic to be deleted.  But having a duration of "Forever" is not a guarantee that the topic lasts forever and you can never delete it, either with another Hashtag or manually.  That's how I see it.

Perhaps use of the word "Forever" is misleading?

I use a few Hashtags here and there, most without any Topic Duration.  The ones with a limited Topic Duration cause the topic to be deleted, even if another Hashtag was  attached.

Andy


moderated Re: 14-day expired pending member does not generate a log entry #bug #suggestion

 

🤣🤣🤣


On Oct 13, 2021, at 10:14 AM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:


On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 10:10 AM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

Every month my group gets the “topic deleted by system due to expired hashtag” log entry for our group guidelines.

Oops. Nevermind, can't read my own code.....

Mark 

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moderated Re: 14-day expired pending member does not generate a log entry #bug #suggestion

 

On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 10:10 AM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

Every month my group gets the “topic deleted by system due to expired hashtag” log entry for our group guidelines.

Oops. Nevermind, can't read my own code.....

Mark 


moderated Re: Allow manual sending of Monthly Reminder as a "notice type" in send member message #suggestion

 

On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 7:13 AM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
Tried again. All I get is Group Guidelines and Pending Subscription. Odd. This topic should change to #bug.

This has been fixed.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: 14-day expired pending member does not generate a log entry #bug #suggestion

 

Mark,
Every month my group gets the “topic deleted by system due to expired hashtag” log entry for our group guidelines.
???


On Oct 13, 2021, at 9:56 AM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:


On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 9:53 AM Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

We currently do not log when topics are locked or deleted via hashtag rules. Is there any reason why I should not add activity log entries for those actions as well?

Sorry, this should say that we don't have separate activity log entry for expired topics, they just read that they've been deleted.

Thanks,
Mark 

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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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moderated Re: Hashtag duration conflict - who wins? #misc

 

Boy, this is like a koan! Let me think on it. 😊


On Oct 13, 2021, at 9:54 AM, Tom Vail <tom@...> wrote:

Okay, here is my issue.  I have a number of posts which have a valid timeframe of less than a year, but within that same hashtag there are some which are permeant.  I would like to have 2 hashtags:  #hashtag1 has a duration of 1 year, and #hashtag2 has a duration of forever.  That way folks posting under hashtag 1 will be deleted, but if also include hashtag 2 they will not be deleted.

Suggestions?

Thanks,
Tom

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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: 14-day expired pending member does not generate a log entry #bug #suggestion

 

On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 9:53 AM Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

We currently do not log when topics are locked or deleted via hashtag rules. Is there any reason why I should not add activity log entries for those actions as well?

Sorry, this should say that we don't have separate activity log entry for expired topics, they just read that they've been deleted.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: 14-day expired pending member does not generate a log entry #bug #suggestion

 

Hi All,

I've added two new activity log entries, one for expired pending members and the other for expired pending messages. The entries are of the forms:


test@...'s pending subscription expired and was deleted, via system" and "test@...'s pending message "test" expired and was deleted, via system
test@...'s pending message "test" expired and was deleted, via system


We currently do not log when topics are locked or deleted via hashtag rules. Is there any reason why I should not add activity log entries for those actions as well?

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Hashtag duration conflict - who wins? #misc

Tom Vail
 

Okay, here is my issue.  I have a number of posts which have a valid timeframe of less than a year, but within that same hashtag there are some which are permeant.  I would like to have 2 hashtags:  #hashtag1 has a duration of 1 year, and #hashtag2 has a duration of forever.  That way folks posting under hashtag 1 will be deleted, but if also include hashtag 2 they will not be deleted.

Suggestions?

Thanks,
Tom


moderated Re: Hashtag duration conflict - who wins? #misc

 

I agree with Duane. The most restrictive restriction should win.

On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 9:15 AM Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 10:49 AM, Tom Vail wrote:
If a message is tagged with 2 hashtags which have different durations, which one wins?
Based on a quick test, the shortest time wins.  Since there can be logical reasons for this, I don't think the system could control it very well.

Duane


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moderated Re: Hashtag duration conflict - who wins? #misc

Duane
 

On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 10:49 AM, Tom Vail wrote:
If a message is tagged with 2 hashtags which have different durations, which one wins?
Based on a quick test, the shortest time wins.  Since there can be logical reasons for this, I don't think the system could control it very well.

Duane


moderated Re: Hashtag duration conflict - who wins? #misc

 

Great question! Maybe the system should disallow that situation in the first place?


On Oct 13, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Tom Vail <tom@...> wrote:

If a message is tagged with 2 hashtags which have different durations, which one wins?  Example:  #hashtag1 has a duration of 1 day, and #hashtag2 has a duration of 1 month and both are tagged to a topic, when is it deleted?

Thanks,
Tom 

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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Hashtag duration conflict - who wins? #misc

Tom Vail
 

If a message is tagged with 2 hashtags which have different durations, which one wins?  Example:  #hashtag1 has a duration of 1 day, and #hashtag2 has a duration of 1 month and both are tagged to a topic, when is it deleted?

Thanks,
Tom 


moderated Re: Automatic message deletion #misc

 

Just the topic title.

On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 7:57 AM Tom Vail <tom@...> wrote:
J,

Topics have a member associated to it, it is the member who started the topic.  Look at the Message list and each topic has a "By" with it.  When a topic is deleted is that member listed in the activity log, or just the topic title?

It would be nice to have a notification go to the member as it could have been a year since the started the topic.

Tom


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