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moderated Re: Trying to add member notice with existing type and name fails to issue warning, does nothing, navigates poorly #bug

 

J,

On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 10:49 AM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
If you try to create a new Member Notice of the same type and name of one that already exists, the system does nothing to allay or notify you of your stupidity. It simply lets you compose the notice and click on "Add Notice," does nothing, and then takes you back not to the Member Notices page but to your list of groups.

We don't restrict member notices by type/name. You should be able to create as many welcome notices with the name Welcome as you like, for example...

Mark 


moderated Re: Button Label Clarification for web site reply #suggestion

Mike Hanauer
 

And changing "Private" to "Reply Only to Sender" might be clearer and more consistent. On the other hand, the first reply could be a menu to choose one of the two.

Consider Better, not Bigger. So many advantages. Just ask. USA adds a Chicago to our overpop each year.
"Still more population growth is not our way to a healthy community, a healthy planet, OR enjoyable cycling."

    ~Mike


On Wednesday, October 6, 2021, 05:07:46 PM EDT, Mike Hanauer via groups.io <mghanauer@...> wrote:


I don't think just "Send" would work without rework. That is because if you click on "private", the button changes to "reply to sender" from "reply to group" 

Simplest might be to just change "Reply to ____" to "Send to ____".

Consider Better, not Bigger. So many advantages. Just ask. USA adds a Chicago to our overpop each year.
"Still more population growth is not our way to a healthy community, a healthy planet, OR enjoyable cycling."

    ~Mike


On Wednesday, October 6, 2021, 04:45:43 PM EDT, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:


I like this idea. Maybe just “Send”
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J

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My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Button Label Clarification for web site reply #suggestion

Mike Hanauer
 

I don't think just "Send" would work without rework. That is because if you click on "private", the button changes to "reply to sender" from "reply to group" 

Simplest might be to just change "Reply to ____" to "Send to ____".

Consider Better, not Bigger. So many advantages. Just ask. USA adds a Chicago to our overpop each year.
"Still more population growth is not our way to a healthy community, a healthy planet, OR enjoyable cycling."

    ~Mike


On Wednesday, October 6, 2021, 04:45:43 PM EDT, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:


I like this idea. Maybe just “Send”
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Button Label Clarification for web site reply #suggestion

 

I like this idea. Maybe just “Send”
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Button Label Clarification for web site reply #suggestion

Mike Hanauer
 

Suggestion: Button Label Clarification for web site reply.

I had a person who was confused by needing to hit "Reply" (to compose message) and then hit "Reply to Group". As a result, he never sent his message.

If the second button were changed from "Reply to Group" to "Send Reply to Group" or at least Send something, that would be clearer. Most similar apps (including groups.io "new topic") use the word 'send' to signal composition is complete and to transmit the message.

AllTheBest.

  ~Mike

[Mod Note: Added a subject.]


moderated Re: Attachment fails with special character in file name #bug

 

Hello,

On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 7:31 AM Samuel Murrayy <samuelmurray@...> wrote:


I this message:
https://groups.io/g/zalang/message/65905
...I sent an attachment to a list with this file name:
1983, Potgieter en Prozesky, 8 pages - Verklarende woordelys van terme in die molekulêre biologie
and the attachment's link is broken.

This has been fixed.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: "Override: not moderated" does not work when using moderated hashtags #bug

 

On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 9:51 AM Marina <moderatore@...> wrote:
My restricted group is set to "Messages that start new topics are moderated".
I have set all my moderators' posting priviliges to "Override: not moderated" (in the Members' List their accounts are shown with a P = Posting alway allowed).
We have a set of mandatory hashtags, two of which (for off-topics and job offers) are moderated.

Now, if my moderators or I start a new topic, according to our posting privilege, our message is not moderated and we can freely post.
However, if we send a message with one of the moderated hashtags, our message is moderated/treated as pending message and we have to approve it.

So, apparently, Posting is not always allowed and the "Override: Not moderated" privilege does not override moderated hashtags.

This should be fixed now.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: #bug Duplicate daily summary notifications this morning #bug

 

Alwin,

It looks like you used the GIO online editor to post the message and embedded this image.  If either embedded image's dimension is over 640 pixels that editor will proportionally resize it down to 640 at the longest dimension, so it's easier for readability to instead attach images that are more than 640 pixels in either dimension.

Cheers,
Christos


moderated Re: #bug Duplicate daily summary notifications this morning #bug

 

On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 10:44 AM, J_Catlady wrote:
one of my group members was doubly logged as changing their delivery to Special Notices Only
with no logged actions in between - i.e., they didn't go back and forth.
 
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: #bug Duplicate daily summary notifications this morning #bug

 

I can't read this. However, yesterday one of my group members was doubly logged as changing their delivery to Special Notices Only. There was nothing different about the two log entries except the timestamps, which were one minute apart. This was doubly logged in both the group activity log and the member's activity log. I tried changing a member to special notice in my test group, to see if I could reproduce this, but it didn't happen so I decided it was a fluke and didn't report it. I don't know if this is similar to the bug you're reporting because I can't read it.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Allow downloading photos leaving spaces intact in filenames #suggestion

Andy
 

Looks good.  Thank you.


moderated Re: Allow downloading photos leaving spaces intact in filenames #suggestion

 

On Sat, Oct 2, 2021 at 8:02 AM Andy <AI.egrps+io@...> wrote:
When a photo has spaces in its filename, and that photo is downloaded from a group, groups.io converts the filename into+a+new+filename+with+plus+signs+instead+of+the+spaces.  I find it a little annoying.  And it is puzzling.

Can the download save it with its original filename, spaces and all?


This should be fixed now.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Subgroup Category setting changes do not stick #bug

 

On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 1:06 PM Ry Jones <rjones@...> wrote:

When setting group categories in the admin interface, the UI reports success, but the value is not updated.

This should be fixed now.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Editing Photos has less capability than editing Files #bug

Andy
 

Trying to change a Photo's Owner (in my group) is completely useless today.  If I click on the choice for Owner, Google Chrome times out several seconds later and shows a pop-up window that reads:

Page Unresponsive
You can wait for it to become responsive or exit the page.
Wait    Exit page

It always takes longer than that (>20 sec), so I never reach the display of member names.  If I click "Wait", or just wait for it to become responsive, the pop-up window with names appears briefly and immediately disappears.

I wanted to try the suggestion to start typing a member's name.  That's not going to happen.  I may have to wait until late tonight when people have gone to bed.

Andy


moderated Enhance the Owner dropdown functionality when editing a photo #suggestion

 

Hi Mark,

This suggestion is related to this topic, https://beta.groups.io/g/main/topic/editing_photos_has_less/86042121 and I thought I'd create a new topic as I also have gone through the same issue before.

>>>
if you know the first letter of the wanted member's Display Name operating that key repeatedly will scroll through all those with that as the initial letter of their Display Name, ignoring all those with a different initial letter.
Still a bit tedious, but better than having to go through the entire list.
<<<

What would really make things easy/quick in using that dropdown (and possibly any same dropdown in other areas) is if it allowed slower typing of a partial or full name/address value with the subsequent full-value matching as you type, and/or an outright Ctrl-V paste and match.

It kind-of already "supports" both in a sense, as if one let's say is looking for username Peter (and for the sake of argument assume the group has only one), if they type that ultra-ultra-fast, it will find it right away.  But it took me 5 tries to be able to type it fast enough so it matched right away, all it took was to either make a mistake or be too slow and it would now jump and match on the mistaken or slow-typed letter, so unless if all users have few-letter usernames and one is an ultra-fast typist, forget trying to quickly match on username, let alone email address.  Trying to do a bunch of these owner re-assignments currently in a group with thousands of members can be time-consuming.

I don't know how much work it would require to make it match to the whole typed value as it gets typed, but I think just adding support for Ctrl-V pasting of a value after the dropdown has been opened should hopefully be easy and quick to implement, and it would make assigning the Owner instantaneous pretty-much, since when we mods assign/change owner we already know who it's going to be assigned to so we can have the pertinent (username or email address) value already copied.

Or alternatively, anything else you might think you can tweak or enhance in this dropdown that would help streamline things would also be appreciated.

Cheers,
Christos


moderated Re: Editing Photos has less capability than editing Files #bug

Andy
 

On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 12:16 PM, Duane wrote:
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The easiest way is to use your browser's Find function.  In Firefox that's Ctrl-F, then type in part/all of the name or email address.
...
By default, the newest members are listed first, but you can always click on a column header to re-sort.

I don't think we are talking about the same thing.

There are no column headers to click on.  There is only the one column, and no header.  It seems to be showing a mixture of email addresses for some, and names for others.  I guess maybe it shows the Display Name if it exists, or the address if not.

Using my browser's Find function does not help.  The moment I press ctrl-F, the pop-up window with names disappears, as I expected it would.  Using Find while the pop-up window is hidden does not work, as expected.

Now mind you, I did not really want to change a Photo's Owner.  I just noted that it is what delays the Name and Description edit boxes from appearing -- also, that you can't change a File's Owner.  I hardly ever thought about changing a Photo's Owner or a File's Owner before, but I could see why someone might want to do that, to have more complete control over Files or Photos once they've been uploaded.

Andy


moderated Re: Editing Photos has less capability than editing Files #bug

 

On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 11:16 AM, Chris Jones wrote:
if you know the first letter of the wanted member's Display Name operating that key repeatedly will scroll through all those with that as the initial letter of their Display Name, ignoring all those with a different initial letter.

Still a bit tedious, but better than having to go through the entire list.
You're right, better than nothing!  But what would really make things easy/quick in that dropdown (and also the same dropdown in Files) is if it allowed slower typing of a partial or full name/address value with the subsequent matching as you type, and/or an outright Ctrl-V paste and match. 

I mean, it kind of already "supports" both in a sense, as if one let's say is looking for username Peter (and for the sake of argument assume the group has only one), if they type that ultra-ultra-fast, it will find it right away.  But it took me 5 tries to be able to type it fast enough so it matched right away, all it took was to either make a mistake or be too slow and it would now jump and match on the mistaken or slow-typed letter, so unless if all users have few-letter usernames and you are a ultra-fast typist, forget trying to quickly match on username, let alone email address...

I don't know how much work it would require to make it match to the whole typed value as it gets typed, but I think just adding support for Ctrl-V pasting of a value after the dropdown has been opened should be easy and quick and it would make assigning the Owner instantaneous pretty-much since when we mods assign/change owner we already know who it's going to be assigned to so we can have the pertinent value (username or emaill addy) already copied.

I just posted this as a suggestion in a new topic.

Cheers,
Christos


moderated Subgroup Category setting changes do not stick #bug

Ry Jones
 

Hi,
When setting group categories in the admin interface, the UI reports success, but the value is not updated.

For instance, when I go here: https://lists.hyperledger.org/g/firefly/settings and set the Subgroup Category to "Project", the UI says the setting was saved, but the list does not show up in the list of Projects, and the Category is still set to "--"
Ry

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Ry Jones
Community Architect, Hyperledger


moderated Moderator permissions and documentation inconsistencies #bug

Andy Wedge
 

Hi Mark,

when setting permissions for a moderator in a subgroup, the documentation states that the Invite Members option is not shown.  This is correct but what is shown is an Add Members option and when this is set, a Moderator of a subgroup actually sees both Add and Invite options.

The ability to invite members to join a subgroup and have them automatically added to the main group was part of the Site Updates announcement on 09-Feb-19 in #19741.  There were several comments at the time in the topic Invite people to subgroups with concerns about this (me included - and also in #19765)  so I'll take this as another opportunity to request that the Add and Invite permissions for a subgroup Moderator are separated so that just the Add from the main group membership list can be granted.

Regards
Andy


moderated Re: Editing Photos has less capability than editing Files #bug

Chris Jones
 

On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 04:02 PM, Andy wrote:
Even if I could master the timing between mouse clicks and response of the popup menu (30 seconds later),
Odd; when I try the response is as near instantaneous as it can be. IMHO your 30 second delay requires further investigation.

the list is not in any apparent order.  They are definitely not alphabetical.
No they aren't, and I am not sure what the display order actually is.

  Searching through thousands of members in an unsorted list is, um, pointless.

Yes it would be, but... if you know the first letter of the wanted member's Display Name operating that key repeatedly will scroll through all those with that as the initial letter of their Display Name, ignoring all those with a different initial letter.

Still a bit tedious, but better than having to go through the entire list.

Some care is required; AFAIK there is no "back" function so if you overshoot the person you are looking for you have to start all over again. (There is no need to ask me how I know this...)

Chris

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