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locked Re: The home page

 

I agree with Matthew.  I would much rather see the groups directory.  If I want to see messages, I can just go to the individual group. 

Donna


locked Re: The home page

Adrien Collins <adriencollins22160@...>
 

Hi

Ok just to put in my penny's worth here, when I log in to groups.io, it is mostly to do stuff to my groups, not to read mail so I normally go straight to the bit where I can see my groups or start a group, I don't read the messages because I download them with outlook. I would prefer to have the groups I am on as the home page but perhaps you can make this optional in our account

Regards

Adrien

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Pitts via Groups.io [mailto:daywalker_blade_2004@...]
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 2:12 AM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] The home page

Mark,

I know this might sound strange, but this is actually one of the features I don't like about Yahoo Groups. I would prefer to have a directory of groups to look through, much like Yahoo Groups had before the changes that were made two years ago, and have access to the groups I'm a member of through the menu bar like it currently is. But, I'm probably in the minority on that.

Matthew Pitts



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From: Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io>
To: beta@groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 4:30 PM
Subject: [beta] The home page


Hi All,

Question for you: do you use the 'combined message view' that's presented when you go to https://groups.io <https://groups.io/> (ie. All Messages)?

If it's not being used, I'm wondering if instead if would better to make the Subscriptions page (https://groups.io/groups) be the home page. And I'd move the functions to view/modify your muted/followed threads/hashtags into each group.. And there'd be no combined message view.

Thoughts?

Thanks,
Mark


locked Re: restricted groups

Adrien Collins <adriencollins22160@...>
 

Hi Chris

I suggested it because it would be easier than having to go
to each group to make changes especially if a person has
several groups.

Regards

Adrien

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Hallsworth
[mailto:challsworth2@...]
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 11:01 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] restricted groups

Sounds good, Mailman has this feature.
On 19 Jun 2015, at 21:55, Adrien Collins
<adriencollins22160@...> wrote:

Hi

I want to make all my groups so that I have to approve new
members, I
assume on the group settings I click the link that says
restricted I
cannot see any other option for allowing me to approve
members. Is it
possible to have a setting so that we can apply the same
settings to
all our groups if we have several and want to make the
settings the
same?

Regards

Adrien





locked Re: The home page

christopher hallsworth <challsworth2@...>
 

Just to say wow! That page works and is now my home page on Safari for Mac Os X. Will do Firefox my prefered browser of choice under Windows soon. I might even set it for Google Chrome under Mac Os X.

On 20 Jun 2015, at 02:06, Linda <lindon@...> wrote:

Hi,
Messages to my groups require approval, which is why I prefer https://groups.io/groups as my go-to page. That page is the home page on IE, my browser for Groups.io only. I never even look at the Inbox.

I'm sure Mark has no intention of removing menu bar access to our groups. It's a great way to navigate.

Linda




locked Re: The home page

 

Mark,

I wrote:

... or moving [Muted and Followed] into the page as view selectors
parallel to Thread View / Message View. But whatever you choose, do
the same in the All Messages view.
Or, if there's room for a thin column just to the left of the Date/Created column, put the Muted or Followed icon in that column to mark each row accordingly (blank for neither). Then a sort on that column header might serve as well as a view selector.

Or not. People who Mute or Follow a lot of threads/hashtags might prefer an overt selector.

-- Shal


locked Re: The home page

 

Mark,

Question for you: do you use the 'combined message view' that's
presented when you go to https://groups.io (ie. All Messages)?
Not often. But I'm email-centric so I tend to get the same sort of view (combined messages from all my groups) in my email Inbox.

If it's not being used, I'm wondering if instead if would better to
make the Subscriptions page (https://groups.io/groups) be the home
page.
I'd agree with that in any case. Especially with JohnF's idea to add a column for the time of the most recent message. A tool tip or something to define "Recent" would also be welcome.

And I'd move the functions to view/modify your muted/followed
threads/hashtags into each group.
I've suggested that before. I think there ought to be only the necessary distinctions between the all messages view and the Thread View on the Messages page of a particular group. The All Messages view needs the group Subject Tag for each item in the list, is there anything else that needs to differ?

And there'd be no combined message view.
I'd prefer to keep it. Even with the Subscriptions page made default, the All Messages list could still be accessed via the "All" button in the left nav list.

Further:

I'd regularize the left list a bit. Perhaps make the "Messages" button itself be the selector for All messages (and eliminate the "All" sub-button), then for symmetry make the "Hashtags" button be a selector for a (new) list of all Hashtags from all of one's groups.

For symmetry I'd bring those same sub-buttons (Muted and Followed) to fill in under Messages and Hashtags in the left nav list of each Group. If that makes the list seem too long, consider hiding them under expanders by default, or moving them into the page as view selectors parallel to Thread View / Message View. But whatever you choose, do the same in the All Messages view.

-- Shal


locked Re: The home page

 

I also vote to make the Subscriptions page the home page. If one or two groups gets significantly more traffic than the others, they tend to dominate the combined message view, even if I might care about the lower-volume groups more.

One thing that would help on the Subscriptions page would be the most recent message's timestamp (or "35 minutes ago"). If a group has 0 recent messages, then I know there's nothing new there, but for any other number, I have to check. I don't really need the group Size or Delivery choice on this summary page.

JohnF


locked Re: The home page

Linda
 

Hi,
Messages to my groups require approval, which is why I prefer https://groups.io/groups as my go-to page. That page is the home page on IE, my browser for Groups.io only. I never even look at the Inbox.

I'm sure Mark has no intention of removing menu bar access to our groups. It's a great way to navigate.

Linda


locked Re: The home page

Duane
 

I like it the way it is. It let's me see all the group messages to help determine if there might be an important one that needs a quick answer.

Duane


locked Re: The home page

 

Mark,

I know this might sound strange, but this is actually one of the features I don't like about Yahoo Groups. I would prefer to have a directory of groups to look through, much like Yahoo Groups had before the changes that were made two years ago, and have access to the groups I'm a member of through the menu bar like it currently is. But, I'm probably in the minority on that.

Matthew Pitts
 



From: Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io>
To: beta@groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 4:30 PM
Subject: [beta] The home page

Hi All,

Question for you: do you use the 'combined message view' that's presented when you go to https://groups.io (ie. All Messages)?

If it's not being used, I'm wondering if instead if would better to make the Subscriptions page (https://groups.io/groups) be the home page. And I'd move the functions to view/modify your muted/followed threads/hashtags into each group.. And there'd be no combined message view.

Thoughts?

Thanks,
Mark



locked Re: The home page

Frances
 

I do use the "combined message view", just because that's what happens. Not sure I need to do so, though it is interesting to see all the activity on my groups. It might be handy to someone who doesn't get every email and logs in to see what's happening. 

If you made Your Subscriptions https://groups.io/groups the homepage, it would be useful to be able to see recent activity. There is a header "Recent Messages", but I don't know the scope of that. Last day, last week? 



locked Re: The home page

Jim Ruby <jim@...>
 

Second option

 

 

From: Mark Fletcher [mailto:markf@corp.groups.io]
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 3:30 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: [beta] The home page

 

Hi All,

 

Question for you: do you use the 'combined message view' that's presented when you go to https://groups.io (ie. All Messages)?

 

If it's not being used, I'm wondering if instead if would better to make the Subscriptions page (https://groups.io/groups) be the home page. And I'd move the functions to view/modify your muted/followed threads/hashtags into each group. And there'd be no combined message view.

 

Thoughts?

 

Thanks,

Mark


locked Re: Invitations - From address

 

Mark,

I'm not sure why the invites are ending up in spam folders, but
changing the reply address is a good idea.
Probably the same reason Yahoo Groups' Invitations have trouble getting through: spam filters tend to pick out form letters. And especially the same text sent to multiple recipients within a given email service.

Perhaps the Invite page should encourage the user to customize the message, and provide a way to preview the customized message.

Also, if you're willing to mailmerge the outbound invitations, anything you can do personalize the text would probably help (couldn't hurt?). For example:

Hello [name],

[modname] offers you this invitation to join the Groups.io email
group [groupname].
...
If you are not interested, or are not [email address], please ignore
this email.
[name] you'd have to pick out of the email addresses provided by the user. The inclusion of [email address] may seem redundant, but it might help prevent people from trying to use forwarded invitations.

-- Shal


locked Re: restricted groups

christopher hallsworth <challsworth2@...>
 

Sounds good, Mailman has this feature.

On 19 Jun 2015, at 21:55, Adrien Collins <adriencollins22160@...> wrote:

Hi

I want to make all my groups so that I have to approve new
members, I assume on the group settings I click the link
that says restricted I cannot see any other option for
allowing me to approve members. Is it possible to have a
setting so that we can apply the same settings to all our
groups if we have several and want to make the settings the
same?

Regards

Adrien





locked restricted groups

Adrien Collins <adriencollins22160@...>
 

Hi

I want to make all my groups so that I have to approve new
members, I assume on the group settings I click the link
that says restricted I cannot see any other option for
allowing me to approve members. Is it possible to have a
setting so that we can apply the same settings to all our
groups if we have several and want to make the settings the
same?

Regards

Adrien


locked Re: Invitations - From address

 

Hi Duane,

I'm not sure why the invites are ending up in spam folders, but changing the reply address is a good idea. The reply address is now groupname+invite+....

Thanks,
Mark

On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
I sent invitations to all the folks on a  couple of other groups that I'm closing down to use this site.  It seems that a lot of them thought they were spam because the From address was Invite and a string of numbers (I think).  What about having it come from groupname+owner or something similar?  Maybe create groupname+invite for dealing with them?  I don't know if it had anything to do with that, but lots of folks, especially with Yahoo email (directly or via Verizon or other partners), had them go into the spam bucket.  I'd like to get as many folks moved over here as I can.  The first 2 groups had a 90% or better move rate, so I'm hopeful.

Thanks,
Duane






locked Re: The home page

Steph <hsrsp@...>
 

2nd option.

Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 3:30 PM
Subject: [beta] The home page

Hi All,

Question for you: do you use the 'combined message view' that's presented when you go to https://groups.io (ie. All Messages)?

If it's not being used, I'm wondering if instead if would better to make the Subscriptions page (https://groups.io/groups) be the home page. And I'd move the functions to view/modify your muted/followed threads/hashtags into each group. And there'd be no combined message view.

Thoughts?

Thanks,
Mark


locked Re: The home page

Michael Capelle <michael.capelle@...>
 

hello, i prefer the second option.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Fletcher" <markf@corp.groups.io>
To: <beta@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 3:30 PM
Subject: [beta] The home page


Hi All,

Question for you: do you use the 'combined message view' that's presented
when you go to https://groups.io (ie. All Messages)?

If it's not being used, I'm wondering if instead if would better to make
the Subscriptions page (https://groups.io/groups) be the home page. And I'd
move the functions to view/modify your muted/followed threads/hashtags into
each group. And there'd be no combined message view.

Thoughts?

Thanks,
Mark


locked The home page

 

Hi All,

Question for you: do you use the 'combined message view' that's presented when you go to https://groups.io (ie. All Messages)?

If it's not being used, I'm wondering if instead if would better to make the Subscriptions page (https://groups.io/groups) be the home page. And I'd move the functions to view/modify your muted/followed threads/hashtags into each group. And there'd be no combined message view.

Thoughts?

Thanks,
Mark


locked Invitations - From address

Duane
 

I sent invitations to all the folks on a couple of other groups that I'm closing down to use this site. It seems that a lot of them thought they were spam because the From address was Invite and a string of numbers (I think). What about having it come from groupname+owner or something similar? Maybe create groupname+invite for dealing with them? I don't know if it had anything to do with that, but lots of folks, especially with Yahoo email (directly or via Verizon or other partners), had them go into the spam bucket. I'd like to get as many folks moved over here as I can. The first 2 groups had a 90% or better move rate, so I'm hopeful.

Thanks,
Duane