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moderated Sing on required to view every message #bug

Tom Vail
 

I have a user, only one I know of, who has to sign on every time he goes to another message.  So he goes from message A and tries to view message B, IO makes him sign on again.  It is like the "Messages" tab on the left is signing him off?

Anyone else seen this, and if so what is the fix?

Thanks,
Tom


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Chris Jones
 

On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 04:06 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
I am now on vacation
Have a good one; as ever you have earned it!

Chris


moderated Site updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site this week:

August 10, 2021:

  • APP: Submitted a new version of the app for Apple app store review.
  • INTERNAL: Work on improving our app deploy system.
  • BUGFIX: Several draft saving bug fixes.

August 9, 2021:

  • NEW: When composing a post or reply, if there is an error saving the draft, we now display an error message and will retry.

Note: I am now on vacation, returning on Thursday, August 26th. During this time, my responses to email may be delayed. The next #changelog email will be sent on Friday, August 27th.

Take care everyone.

Mark


moderated Re: renaming a link should leave a pointer from the old name #suggestion

Glenn Glazer
 

On 08/10/2021 20:31, Duane wrote:
On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 05:18 PM, Glenn Glazer wrote:
1) If there is a redirect in place, the upload fails with a message saying MyFile1.zip already exists. This is assumes there is a mechanism to delete a redirect if one really wants to.
On one of my groups, we intentionally have files with the same names in different folders.  They're all related, but have different info in them, so NOT having redirects would be important.

Duane

Which is a reason why there is a specification to have a way to delete the redirect. Alternatively, as I suggested upthread, the move/rename window could have a checkbox to create the redirect and if you don't check it, then everything works as before.

Best,

Glenn

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moderated Re: renaming a link should leave a pointer from the old name #suggestion

Duane
 

On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 05:18 PM, Glenn Glazer wrote:
1) If there is a redirect in place, the upload fails with a message saying MyFile1.zip already exists. This is assumes there is a mechanism to delete a redirect if one really wants to.
On one of my groups, we intentionally have files with the same names in different folders.  They're all related, but have different info in them, so NOT having redirects would be important.

Duane


moderated Log rejected messages #suggestion

 

Just as the text of mod messages to members are now logged, it would be convenient to log the text of rejected messages within the "rejected" log entry. Currently, these can be found only within a rejection notice (if one is sent), or in the email notification of the pending message, which may be far removed from the time the message is rejected (and difficult to find). I just received the rebuttal to a rejected message by a member in a group where I'm a mod, but have no idea what message was being rejected. I can see the rejection action in the activity log, but no text.
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J

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My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Improved draft saving #update

 

Aha. I'm sorry for the dribble but I just discovered the cause: when I went into the other group, I had just composed a draft in THIS group. I did it again to test, by changing the draft a tiny bit and going into the other group again. And there it was again, at the top of THAT group. Very fleetingly.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Improved draft saving #update

 

Well, this is odd. I just saw another *fleeting* banner when going into another group in which I'm a mod. I hadn't done anything in the group. It disappeared immediately. Was like a ghost.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: renaming a link should leave a pointer from the old name #suggestion

Glenn Glazer
 

On 08/10/2021 14:09, Andy wrote:
Glenn, I don't claim to know anything about if/how this works.  But I wonder about something.

What happens after this sequence of events:

1)  Member A uploads MyFile1.zip to the Files section.
2)  Moderator moves MyFile1.zip to a new folder, or renames it.
3)  Member A uploads a new (different) MyFile1.zip to the Files section.

So when other members come along and try to download MyFile1.zip, how do you decide which one to serve up as a download?

Andy

This is an "application level behavior" so it just depends on how Mark implements it. There are two standard approaches

1) If there is a redirect in place, the upload fails with a message saying MyFile1.zip already exists. This is assumes there is a mechanism to delete a redirect if one really wants to.
2) Allow uploads to "overwrite" redirects.

2) has the potential of really confusing people ("I asked for X but got Y named X") in our context, so I would prefer 1).

Best,

Glenn

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#calcare
PG&E Delenda Est


moderated Re: renaming a link should leave a pointer from the old name #suggestion

Andy
 

Glenn, I don't claim to know anything about if/how this works.  But I wonder about something.

What happens after this sequence of events:

1)  Member A uploads MyFile1.zip to the Files section.
2)  Moderator moves MyFile1.zip to a new folder, or renames it.
3)  Member A uploads a new (different) MyFile1.zip to the Files section.

So when other members come along and try to download MyFile1.zip, how do you decide which one to serve up as a download?

Andy


moderated Re: Improved draft saving #update

 

Same here. All is good. :-)


On Aug 10, 2021, at 1:35 PM, Chris Jones via groups.io <chrisjones12@...> wrote:

On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 09:01 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
It should be fixed.
 
Seems OK to me now anyway!

Chris

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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Improved draft saving #update

Chris Jones
 

On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 09:01 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
It should be fixed.
 
Seems OK to me now anyway!

Chris


moderated Re: Improved draft saving #update

 

On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 12:41 PM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
Unfortunately, the behavior persists. Go into any member notice and you immediately see the banner at the top:
"There was an error saving your draft. Will try again in 30 seconds" and then a countdown. And then at 0, it repeats.
I'm on a new(ish) Macbook Pro running updated Firefox. Tried it in safari and get same behavior.

Whereas before I was unable to reproduce this, I was able to reproduce it now. It should be fixed.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Improved draft saving #update

 

Sorry for the dribbling messages (my downfall and against the group guidelines, I know), but the next time I went back into my group, a couple of seconds ago, it was counting down at 128 seconds. I'll stop there.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Improved draft saving #update

 

I also fleetingly saw it just now in THIS group, after hitting "send" on the previous message, right before it said "your message has been sent."

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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Improved draft saving #update

 

(I don't know if this is a feature of the error notice, but it seems to start with 10 seconds and then a countdown. Then 30 seconds. The last one was 60 seconds. And when I go back into the page, it is still counting down...)
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Improved draft saving #update

 

Unfortunately, the behavior persists. Go into any member notice and you immediately see the banner at the top:
"There was an error saving your draft. Will try again in 30 seconds" and then a countdown. And then at 0, it repeats.
I'm on a new(ish) Macbook Pro running updated Firefox. Tried it in safari and get same behavior.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Improved draft saving #update

 

Hi All,

Again, I haven't been able to reproduce the problem exactly as described here, but I did find a bug and have fixed it. Please let me know if you still see issues.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Improved draft saving #update

Chris Jones
 

On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 06:42 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
Ok here's the new bug: now, whenever going into any member notice, the banner comes up
I've been sitting on the sidelines of this topic but I can confirm this latest oddity.

Chris


moderated Re: Improved draft saving #update

 

Ok here's the new bug: now, whenever going into any member notice, the banner comes up, and comes up repeatedly, until you exit the notice - even if you didn't touch the notice.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu

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