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moderated Re: renaming a link should leave a pointer from the old name #suggestion

Duane
 

On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 05:18 PM, Glenn Glazer wrote:
1) If there is a redirect in place, the upload fails with a message saying MyFile1.zip already exists. This is assumes there is a mechanism to delete a redirect if one really wants to.
On one of my groups, we intentionally have files with the same names in different folders.  They're all related, but have different info in them, so NOT having redirects would be important.

Duane


moderated Log rejected messages #suggestion

 

Just as the text of mod messages to members are now logged, it would be convenient to log the text of rejected messages within the "rejected" log entry. Currently, these can be found only within a rejection notice (if one is sent), or in the email notification of the pending message, which may be far removed from the time the message is rejected (and difficult to find). I just received the rebuttal to a rejected message by a member in a group where I'm a mod, but have no idea what message was being rejected. I can see the rejection action in the activity log, but no text.
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moderated Re: Improved draft saving #update

 

Aha. I'm sorry for the dribble but I just discovered the cause: when I went into the other group, I had just composed a draft in THIS group. I did it again to test, by changing the draft a tiny bit and going into the other group again. And there it was again, at the top of THAT group. Very fleetingly.
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moderated Re: Improved draft saving #update

 

Well, this is odd. I just saw another *fleeting* banner when going into another group in which I'm a mod. I hadn't done anything in the group. It disappeared immediately. Was like a ghost.
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moderated Re: renaming a link should leave a pointer from the old name #suggestion

Glenn Glazer
 

On 08/10/2021 14:09, Andy wrote:
Glenn, I don't claim to know anything about if/how this works.  But I wonder about something.

What happens after this sequence of events:

1)  Member A uploads MyFile1.zip to the Files section.
2)  Moderator moves MyFile1.zip to a new folder, or renames it.
3)  Member A uploads a new (different) MyFile1.zip to the Files section.

So when other members come along and try to download MyFile1.zip, how do you decide which one to serve up as a download?

Andy

This is an "application level behavior" so it just depends on how Mark implements it. There are two standard approaches

1) If there is a redirect in place, the upload fails with a message saying MyFile1.zip already exists. This is assumes there is a mechanism to delete a redirect if one really wants to.
2) Allow uploads to "overwrite" redirects.

2) has the potential of really confusing people ("I asked for X but got Y named X") in our context, so I would prefer 1).

Best,

Glenn

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moderated Re: renaming a link should leave a pointer from the old name #suggestion

Andy
 

Glenn, I don't claim to know anything about if/how this works.  But I wonder about something.

What happens after this sequence of events:

1)  Member A uploads MyFile1.zip to the Files section.
2)  Moderator moves MyFile1.zip to a new folder, or renames it.
3)  Member A uploads a new (different) MyFile1.zip to the Files section.

So when other members come along and try to download MyFile1.zip, how do you decide which one to serve up as a download?

Andy


moderated Re: Improved draft saving #update

 

Same here. All is good. :-)


On Aug 10, 2021, at 1:35 PM, Chris Jones via groups.io <chrisjones12@...> wrote:

On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 09:01 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
It should be fixed.
 
Seems OK to me now anyway!

Chris

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moderated Re: Improved draft saving #update

Chris Jones
 

On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 09:01 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
It should be fixed.
 
Seems OK to me now anyway!

Chris


moderated Re: Improved draft saving #update

 

On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 12:41 PM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
Unfortunately, the behavior persists. Go into any member notice and you immediately see the banner at the top:
"There was an error saving your draft. Will try again in 30 seconds" and then a countdown. And then at 0, it repeats.
I'm on a new(ish) Macbook Pro running updated Firefox. Tried it in safari and get same behavior.

Whereas before I was unable to reproduce this, I was able to reproduce it now. It should be fixed.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Improved draft saving #update

 

Sorry for the dribbling messages (my downfall and against the group guidelines, I know), but the next time I went back into my group, a couple of seconds ago, it was counting down at 128 seconds. I'll stop there.
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J

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moderated Re: Improved draft saving #update

 

I also fleetingly saw it just now in THIS group, after hitting "send" on the previous message, right before it said "your message has been sent."

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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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moderated Re: Improved draft saving #update

 

(I don't know if this is a feature of the error notice, but it seems to start with 10 seconds and then a countdown. Then 30 seconds. The last one was 60 seconds. And when I go back into the page, it is still counting down...)
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Improved draft saving #update

 

Unfortunately, the behavior persists. Go into any member notice and you immediately see the banner at the top:
"There was an error saving your draft. Will try again in 30 seconds" and then a countdown. And then at 0, it repeats.
I'm on a new(ish) Macbook Pro running updated Firefox. Tried it in safari and get same behavior.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Improved draft saving #update

 

Hi All,

Again, I haven't been able to reproduce the problem exactly as described here, but I did find a bug and have fixed it. Please let me know if you still see issues.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Improved draft saving #update

Chris Jones
 

On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 06:42 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
Ok here's the new bug: now, whenever going into any member notice, the banner comes up
I've been sitting on the sidelines of this topic but I can confirm this latest oddity.

Chris


moderated Re: Improved draft saving #update

 

Ok here's the new bug: now, whenever going into any member notice, the banner comes up, and comes up repeatedly, until you exit the notice - even if you didn't touch the notice.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Improved draft saving #update

 

Somethine else wrong now. I just rejected a pending member and (assume) he was automatically sent our active rejection notice. Immediately (*) afterwards I started seeing the banner, repeatedly, about "there was an error saving your draft." But there was no draft.  (* The only thing I did after rejecting the member was go into our rejection notice to check its current reading. I didn't touch it or create, or try to create, any drafts.)
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Improved draft saving #update

 

On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 9:48 AM Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:

Mark -- Lost the draft I was composing while you pushed the change.

Still getting the error message with the request to refresh, but not the separate countdown error (see screenshot). When I refresh the page it no longer brings up the editor as it did this morning.

Google Chrome and W10, updated to latest version two days ago.

Thanks for the help. This should be fixed now. Tricksey hobbitses, these bugs.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Improved draft saving #update

Bruce Bowman
 

On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 12:48 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
When I refresh the page it no longer brings up the editor as it did this morning.
I spoke too soon on this.

This morning I clicked a footer link [in a digest I received overnight] to View/Reply Online. This brought up the message with a "reply=1" query string.

When I hit Discard at this point, I get the error banner. When I refresh the page as requested, the query string is still there, so the editor opens again.

Hope this helps,
Bruce


moderated Re: Improved draft saving #update

Bruce Bowman
 

On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 12:41 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
That said, I've just pushed some changes that hopefully will fix it. Please let me know if you see it again.
Mark -- Lost the draft I was composing while you pushed the change.

Still getting the error message with the request to refresh, but not the separate countdown error (see screenshot). When I refresh the page it no longer brings up the editor as it did this morning.

Google Chrome and W10, updated to latest version two days ago.

Regards,
Bruce

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