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moderated Problem still exists with messages being cut off #bug

Mary Rowse
 



Problem is not fixed.  Some messages go through all the way and others are cut off mid sentence.  No telling which ones.  A moderator on another list offered the advice below.


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Yes, you just have to keep hitting “save” and reopen it and look to see if it saved or got cut off. One thing I’ve been doing is to copy the edited text before hitting save. That way, if I go back to it and find it’s been cut off, I don’t need to do any re-editing but can just paste in the edited text, and hit save again. Usually the second save is the one that takes. Occasionally, it takes 3 tries.
 
It is time-consuming!


moderated Re: #bug Messages being truncated #bug

 

Thanks, Mark.  I'm seeing complete messages and complete tag lines now.  Janet

 

From: main@beta.groups.io [mailto:main@beta.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark Fletcher
Sent: Thursday, August 5, 2021 8:43 PM
To: main@beta.groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] #bug Messages being truncated

 

On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 7:34 PM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

Looks fixed.

Oof, sorry about that. I upgraded the library that encodes/decodes quoted-printable parts of emails, to fix some outstanding bugs parsing non-compliant messages. The API was the same, but the new version requires an additional call to prevent the truncating of messages. In my testing, before I pushed the new code, that didn't come up.

 

Thanks,

Mark 

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moderated Re: #bug Messages being truncated #bug

 

On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 7:34 PM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
Looks fixed.

Oof, sorry about that. I upgraded the library that encodes/decodes quoted-printable parts of emails, to fix some outstanding bugs parsing non-compliant messages. The API was the same, but the new version requires an additional call to prevent the truncating of messages. In my testing, before I pushed the new code, that didn't come up.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: #bug Messages being truncated #bug

 

Pretty ironic (or self-referential?) I just noticed that my own signature in the message where I confirmed the bug was truncated. Fixed now. :)
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J

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moderated Re: #bug Messages being truncated #bug

 

Looks fixed.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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moderated Re: #bug Messages being truncated #bug

 

On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 7:20 PM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
I can testify that signatures are being truncated in messages, both in original messages and in message edits. It just took me five or six tries to amend the bottom line of a group member's signature, both within an edit of her message and within the auto-sig itself after changing that. It kept losing the last four fifths of the last line. I finally got it to work by adding a blank line after the last one.

I think I've fixed it. Can you try to reproduce it now?

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: #bug Messages being truncated #bug

 

Mark,
Here's an example, which you can find in CatladysTestGroup.

Autosig reads:
test long signature
line 1 etc etc etc
line 2 etc etc etc
line 3 etc etc etc

Sig as appearing in posted message:
test long signature
line 1 etc etc etc<

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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be huma


moderated Re: #bug Messages being truncated #bug

 

I can testify that signatures are being truncated in messages, both in original messages and in message edits. It just took me five or six tries to amend the bottom line of a group member's signature, both within an edit of her message and within the auto-sig itself after changing that. It kept losing the last four fifths of the last line. I finally got it to work by adding a blank line after the last one.

I just tested this in my test group: changed the third line of an auto-sig, posted a message, and the third line of the auto-sig was nearly gone and what was left of it was gibberish.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be huma


moderated Re: #bug Messages being truncated #bug

 

On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 07:14 PM, Janet Smith wrote:

Messages sent through email seem to go through (so I am doing that here since my message was rejected on GMF because it was incomplete.)

Messages created through groups.io are being truncated before they are posted. Sometimes just a few words, but enough to be problematic.

I was unaware of this and can't reproduce this. I'd appreciate any additional information you could provide, including pointers to truncated messages in archives, as well as any tips for how to reproduce it.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated #bug Messages being truncated #bug

 

This was reported by people in my group and has been reported by other groups through the Group Manager's Forum, but I didn't see it here and wanted to report this. 

 

Messages sent through email seem to go through (so I am doing that here since my message was rejected on GMF because it was incomplete.) 

 

Messages created through groups.io are being truncated before they are posted.  Sometimes just a few words, but enough to be problematic. 

 

Is this the right forum to report this?

 

Janet Smith


locked Re: Draft not saved or updated while being edited for a long time #bug

 

Topic has run its course. Locked.

Mark


locked Re: Draft not saved or updated while being edited for a long time #bug

 

Yes, it's the job of the user. But it's not the job of most groups.io members trying to post a message. And (in my opinion) it's not the job of group owners to educate their members in all of this. Members could care less, assuming they could even understand it. 

It's not a bug. It's not a feature. It's just the way it is. Which is why I tell my group members to avoid copy/pasting.

On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 9:15 AM Glenn Glazer <glenn.glazer@...> wrote:
Clearly, everyone should use vi. <sigh>

It's not the job of a web input form to accept every proprietary format out there. It's the job of the user to put it in plain text first and there are a thousand ways to do that up to and including using Word itself to save the file as txt file first.

Best,

Glenn

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#calcare
PG&E Delenda Est


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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


locked Re: Draft not saved or updated while being edited for a long time #bug

Glenn Glazer
 

Clearly, everyone should use vi. <sigh>

It's not the job of a web input form to accept every proprietary format out there. It's the job of the user to put it in plain text first and there are a thousand ways to do that up to and including using Word itself to save the file as txt file first.

Best,

Glenn

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#calcare
PG&E Delenda Est


locked Re: Draft not saved or updated while being edited for a long time #bug

 

Sure, a one-liner works fine. The problem is with line and paragraph breaks. Try a document with several paragraphs.

On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 8:53 AM Marv Waschke <marvwaschke@...> wrote:

Our experience differs. This is a paste from Word. I do it all the time and it works well enough for me.


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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


locked Re: Draft not saved or updated while being edited for a long time #bug

Marv Waschke
 

Our experience differs. This is a paste from Word. I do it all the time and it works well enough for me.


locked Re: Draft not saved or updated while being edited for a long time #bug

 

On Wed, Aug 4, 2021 at 05:17 PM, Donald Hellen wrote:
if it's convenient, you can use Windows Notepad, or
Notepad++
We're talking (or at least I'm talking) about group members who just want to post their messages. I'm not gonna get my group members to do any of that. I just tell them don't copy/paste from Word.
 
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


locked Re: Draft not saved or updated while being edited for a long time #bug

Donald Hellen
 

Rubens . . .

On Wed, 4 Aug 2021 18:58:46 -0300, "Rubens" <rubens.alves@outlook.com>
wrote:


JC| Unfortunately Word does not play
| nice with the editor in groups.io
| abd I discourage members from
| doing that.
I believe when you go to past text from another program, you have
multiple choices of HOW to past that text if you use the right click
menu instead of CTRL-V. At work, there are times when I don't want to
past text into another program that's formatted in that program. I
choose the past option on the right of the right click menu when I
want to do that.

Of course, if it's convenient, you can use Windows Notepad, or
Notepad++ (a 3rd party notepad-like program with additional features
over notepad.

Donald


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locked Re: Draft not saved or updated while being edited for a long time #bug

 

As I said: I tell my group members not to use Word. And people are not generally going to use plain text. So, yeah.

On Aug 4, 2021, at 2:58 PM, Rubens <rubens.alves@outlook.com> wrote:

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MW> That's why I always compose
long emails in a word processor
JC| Unfortunately Word does not play
| nice with the editor in groups.io
| abd I discourage members from
| doing that.


This is because you have to use
a "pure TEXT" editor, like TextPAD
or the Windows NotePAD for tasks
like that (p.e. compose a email).
Not a word processor like MS Word.

[ ] Rubens













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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


locked Re: Draft not saved or updated while being edited for a long time #bug

Pete Cook
 

When I'm composing a draft, before I leave the composition page I select all and copy. Then I make sure after leaving that the draft has been saved. If it hasn't (which has only happened a couple of times), I simply paste the contents of the clipboard. 


locked Re: Draft not saved or updated while being edited for a long time #bug

Rubens
 

...
MW> That's why I always compose
> long emails in a word processor

JC| Unfortunately Word does not play
| nice with the editor in groups.io
| abd I discourage members from
| doing that.


This is because you have to use
a "pure TEXT" editor, like TextPAD
or the Windows NotePAD for tasks
like that (p.e. compose a email).
Not a word processor like MS Word.

[ ] Rubens













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