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moderated #bug Daily Unwanted Reminders #bug

Mike Cohen
 

Bruce,

We have set up two events in ssfc@ssfc.groups.io that each repeat for 5 days, one event from July 19 to July 23 and the other from August 9th to August 13th.  For both, we have "no reminders set", yet we are getting email reminders each day from one or the other event. 

The email notifications that I have been receiving are for the August event.
7/19, I received the notification for the 8/9 event
7/20, I received the notification for the 8/10 event.
Today, 7/21, we got an email notification for the 8/11 event.  

I forward the email reminder to 

main@beta.groups.io

Thanks,
Mike


moderated Re: Activity log -> Changed email -- What's going on? #bug

 

On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 6:54 AM Andy <AI.egrps+io@...> wrote:
Occasionally I check the Activity logs to see who has changed their email address.  I use the "Actions" drop-down menu choice "Changed email".

Today, when I do that, it seems to work -- but the "Actions" drop-down menu becomes significantly altered.  It doesn't look right.   The "Actions" menu choice becomes narrow, and its only choice is "All actions", and even that doesn't work right.  It seems to do something, but it isn't "All actions".  I'm not sure what it is.

This should be fixed now.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: #bug Missing messages within Group #bug

 

Hello,

The missing message pagination problem should be fixed now.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: #bug Missing messages within Group #bug

Bruce Bowman
 

On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 09:54 AM, Sally Davies wrote:
I have my 'items per page' preference set to 20 items, but for some reason today it's set itself to 400 messages per page. So, messages 1-400 should be on page #1, but it's still only showing 20 items. When I click on page #2 it is showing messages 401-800, again showing only 20 items. So I've got 380 messages missing on each page!
Yep...I'm having a similar problem with 100/page. I'm getting 1-10000 of 25987 but it's only showing the first 100.

This in Messages view with no query string in the URL.

FYI,
Bruce


moderated #bug Missing messages within Group #bug

Sally Davies
 

Hello all

I've been pointed towards this Group from the io Group Help.

I'm having a problem with a Group that I'm a member of which only started today - and it's very annoying!

I have my 'items per page' preference set to 20 items, but for some reason today it's set itself to 400 messages per page. So, messages 1-400 should be on page #1, but it's still only showing 20 items. When I click on page #2 it is showing messages 401-800, again showing only 20 items. So I've got 380 messages missing on each page! Between page #1 and #2 I'm missing the time period April 26th to July 19th....

I can find the missing messages using the search function, but they stubbornly refuse to appear in the message list :(

I've logged out and back in again, I've changed the preferences to 'infinite scrolling' (still missing that time period) and back again and none of it works. Help!


moderated Activity log -> Changed email -- What's going on? #bug

Andy
 

Occasionally I check the Activity logs to see who has changed their email address.  I use the "Actions" drop-down menu choice "Changed email".

Today, when I do that, it seems to work -- but the "Actions" drop-down menu becomes significantly altered.  It doesn't look right.   The "Actions" menu choice becomes narrow, and its only choice is "All actions", and even that doesn't work right.  It seems to do something, but it isn't "All actions".  I'm not sure what it is.

In other words, it is really messed up!

I did not try many other choices in the Activity logs to see if they also caused this bizarre behavior,  The few I tried seem to still work correctly.

Andy


moderated Member Notice creation #suggestion

Bruce Bowman
 

Mark -- We had a user in GMF get confused when he repeatedly attempted to save a member notice of type Direct Add but it never appeared in the list of notices. As it turned out, he had failed to type anything into the editor, and that's why the notice was discarded. Although I like this behavior, it is [apparently] less than intuitive.

While investigating this, I was surprised to also discover that I can create a Member Notice with the same Name and Type as an existing one, or with no name at all. This is disconcerting when you subsequently attempt to select one to send.

My suggestion is twofold:
  • Require the Name field to be both populated and unique, and
  • (More importantly) keep the "Add Notice" button at the bottom greyed out and inactive until all required fields are populated.
Thanks for your consideration,
Bruce


moderated Re: edit of a message tagged "private" does not go to members who are following-only #bug

 

Mark,

Please delete this bug report. You were right: I had not set the test member to First Message Also. I noticed only that they didn’t receive the edit; I hadn’t checked to notice that (of course) they didn’t get the original, either.:-) Once I set them to FMA, it worked fine.

Thanks!

J


On Jul 20, 2021, at 4:10 PM, J_Catlady via groups.io <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

Mark,
No, there’s no subsequent message. Just the edit. It seems reproducible but I can test it again and send you details. 
Thanks.


On Jul 20, 2021, at 4:01 PM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:


J,

On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 10:20 AM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
If you edit, and send the edit, on a message tagged with a hashtag set to "reply only to sender," the edit does correctly get sent to members sent to Individual Messages. However, it does not reach them if they are also set to Following Only. Apparently the edit is thought of as a reply to the thread, and therefore not received by a member not following the thread.

Could this be what happened?

- A message starting a new topic is sent out
- A reply is sent to that message
- You then edit the first message and send it out
- That edit is not received by people who have FO with First Message Also set? 

I could see how that would happen. If that's not the case, please forward to me off-list as many details as possible.

Thanks,
Mark

--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Annoying text replacement in search fields #bug

 

Hi All,

I've pushed a fix. Please let me know if you see any other issues.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Annoying text replacement in search fields #bug

 

Mark,

A bit more clarification on this for messages, I did some further testing.  The part of clearing the search text and not sticking seems to work fine but there is a bit of quirkiness, in both Topics and Messages view:

A: If one starts at the Topics view, https://beta.groups.io/g/main/topics

and searches for spam, things look ok, you get back 842 results
https://beta.groups.io/g/main/search?p=recentpostdate%25252Fsticky%2C%2Cspam%2C50%2C2%2C0%2C0&q=spam

If one clears the search text and enter/clicks, the search box clears, albeit the search text still shows in the URL's 3rd parameter (I guess p3 is for page nav when the search box is populated?):
https://beta.groups.io/g/main/search?p=recentpostdate%25252Fsticky%2C%2Cspam%2C50%2C2%2C0%2C0&q=

The screen kinda reverts to Message view though, I thought it would go back to Topics view, but in any case, if one searches for something else now, like savvy, 96 messages are returned, and the URL changes to
https://beta.groups.io/g/main/search?p=Created%2C%2C%2C50%2C2%2C0%2C0&q=savvy , with p1=recentpostdate changing to Created and p2=sticky going away.

If one now clears that search text, the URL resets to https://beta.groups.io/g/main/search?p=Created%2C%2Csavvy%2C50%2C2%2C0%2C0&q= and all messages are returned as expected.

 

B: If one starts at the Messages view, https://beta.groups.io/g/main/messages

and searches for spam, the same 842 results are returned but in 842 pages, one at a page as Bruce's screenshot shows.  The URL is
https://beta.groups.io/g/main/search?p=created%2C0%2C%2C1%2C2%2C0%2C0&q=spam

If the search text is cleared, all the messages are returned as expected, but now still only one displayed at a page (and hitting the 10K limit it seems), and again with p3 still showing the search text
https://beta.groups.io/g/main/search?p=created%2C0%2Cspam%2C1%2C2%2C0%2C0&q=

Searching for savvy now returns the 96 messages, again one at a page.

 

Interestingly, if one uses the <> nav buttons in either case, the URL resets to using commas instead of the hex values, and p3 goes away, unless q has a value in which case p3 stays but q goes away).

Hope this helps.

Cheers,
Christos


moderated Re: Annoying text replacement in search fields #bug

 

Mark,

It seems it works fine in the member list, both hitting Enter or clicking on the Search button, and also with having or not a filter applied.

In Messages search, if one is in Topics view all works fine there as well, but in Messages view you get the problem Bruce reported.

Cheers,
Christos


moderated Re: Annoying text replacement in search fields #bug

Bruce Bowman
 

On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 08:20 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Normal message search?
When I cut and paste your URL into the browser address bar it seems to display correctly.

But when I search on "yahoo" myself the URL came back https://beta.groups.io/g/main/search?p=created%2C0%2C%2C1%2C2%2C0%2C0&q=yahoo 

See provided screenshot.

This is in Google Chrome.

Regards,
Bruce


moderated Re: #suggestion Let sender or moderator know that a message has been flagged as spam #suggestion

Marc S. Glasser
 

Thank you, sir. I just sent the same message I'd sent a month ago, from the same e-address, and got the bounce immediately:

<<< 500 This message has been flagged as spam.
554 5.5.0 Remote protocol error

Not as good as having it accepted for moderation, but at least it provides closure for the sender. With luck, the issue won't come up very often over the ensuing months.

Thanks again for listening and responding!
<-----2021-7-20-----MSG----->


moderated Re: Annoying text replacement in search fields #bug

 

On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 5:10 PM Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:
On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 08:03 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Please let me know if you see anything amiss.
When I do a search on the message base I'm getting one hit per page.

Normal message search? I do this and it seems to work for me: https://beta.groups.io/g/main/search?p=recentpostdate%252Fsticky%2C%2C%2C20%2C2%2C0%2C0&q=spam

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Annoying text replacement in search fields #bug

Bruce Bowman
 

On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 08:03 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Please let me know if you see anything amiss.
When I do a search on the message base I'm getting one hit per page.

FYI,
Bruce


moderated Re: Annoying text replacement in search fields #bug

 

Hi All,

I believe I've fixed this. Meaning, I really think I've fixed it, and I certainly tested it a bunch. Please let me know if you see anything amiss.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: edit of a message tagged "private" does not go to members who are following-only #bug

 

Mark,
No, there’s no subsequent message. Just the edit. It seems reproducible but I can test it again and send you details. 
Thanks.


On Jul 20, 2021, at 4:01 PM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:


J,

On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 10:20 AM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
If you edit, and send the edit, on a message tagged with a hashtag set to "reply only to sender," the edit does correctly get sent to members sent to Individual Messages. However, it does not reach them if they are also set to Following Only. Apparently the edit is thought of as a reply to the thread, and therefore not received by a member not following the thread.

Could this be what happened?

- A message starting a new topic is sent out
- A reply is sent to that message
- You then edit the first message and send it out
- That edit is not received by people who have FO with First Message Also set? 

I could see how that would happen. If that's not the case, please forward to me off-list as many details as possible.

Thanks,
Mark

--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Annoying text replacement in search fields #bug

Bruce Bowman
 

On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 03:06 PM, Andy wrote:
There are many places in Groups.io where it does not work to clear the contents of boxes or search fields.  If I am viewing the Members list and then Search within it for some text string, and then clear the contents of the Search box, Groups.io automagically re-populates the Search box with my last search string, as if it can't let it go.
This may be necessary in order to be able to subsequently apply a filter to the search hits.

https://beta.groups.io/g/main/message/28987 

Regards,
Bruce


moderated Re: edit of a message tagged "private" does not go to members who are following-only #bug

 

J,

On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 10:20 AM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
If you edit, and send the edit, on a message tagged with a hashtag set to "reply only to sender," the edit does correctly get sent to members sent to Individual Messages. However, it does not reach them if they are also set to Following Only. Apparently the edit is thought of as a reply to the thread, and therefore not received by a member not following the thread.

Could this be what happened?

- A message starting a new topic is sent out
- A reply is sent to that message
- You then edit the first message and send it out
- That edit is not received by people who have FO with First Message Also set? 

I could see how that would happen. If that's not the case, please forward to me off-list as many details as possible.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Annoying text replacement in search fields #bug

 

I also agree it is annoying as it causes one to do unnecessary clicks (the savvy/savvier ones) or causes one to contact the mods or post to the group to ask what's going on (the non-savvy ones).

Seems to me something is not getting reset or "un-cached".  The search query value can be specified in two places in the URL parameter list, the third parameter in the &p= list, plus in the &searchq= additional parameter, and in many cases, one of them doesn't clear, when it should be.  If one clears the search box and clicks the Search button, the searchq parameter clears in the resulting URL but not in the 3rd parameter, it still stays there, hence after the refresh the search box gets repopulated again when the parameter list is parsed.  If one manually clears both search parameters in the URL and presses enter, then things work fine.  So either something in the code remembers something it shouldn't or maybe the Search click isn't correctly clearing both places.

It may also be a combination of something not refreshing properly, because if one has a search term in there in order to display a certain membership subset, and then let's say deletes one of those members, the page acts like it refreshed but it really doesn't, leaving the member you just removed still showing in the list, causing a double-take initially, and requiring a manual refresh.  I think this bit also has been around for a while.

Regarding the hex codes, this must have been introduced  (relatively) recently when one clicks on Search, as beforehand, when one would click on let's say the DisplayName in the member list (to introduce the parameters in the URL), and then add a search value (hotmail in this case), the URL would change to something like this:

.../members?p=email,members,,50,1,0,0&searchq=hotmail

or the same but with the additional csrf= parameter:

.../members?csrf=some_number&p=email,members,hotmail,50,1,0,0&searchq=hotmail

But if you do this now, it changes to this:

.../members?csrf=some_number&p=email%2Cmembers%2Chotmail%2C50%2C1%2C0%2C0&searchq=hotmail

One can manually enter the parameters with the commas in the URL, and manipulate them to do a search and navigate through the result set without touching the Search button, but as soon as the Search button is clicked, the URL changes to the hex codes.

Cheers,
Christos


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