Date   

moderated Re: Strip out more common email sigs #suggestion

Andy Wedge
 

On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 08:47 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
I've added these, thanks.
I'd add one more to the list and that is 'Sent from Mail for Windows 10'.  I think it would also be great if you could filter out that annoying little graphic image that gets inserted by that application as a mail separator. We moderate messages with attachments and they get caught because of it.  It seems that some replies from members using Mail for Windows 10 do not create the graphic so I think it may be related to the settings they have; I just haven't found out if there's an option to turn it off yet.

Regards
Andy


moderated Re: Strip out more common email sigs #suggestion

Dave Wade
 

Personally I would add a disclaimer after the Avast tag line saying
something along the lines of.....

".. later processed by several other systems that could have added a
virus"....

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: main@beta.groups.io <main@beta.groups.io> On Behalf Of Art Kocsis
via groups.io
Sent: 16 June 2021 04:25
To: main@beta.groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] Strip out more common email sigs #suggestion

On 06-15-2021 12:46, Mark Fletcher wrote:
As for the Avast ads, I agree that they're super annoying.
Unfortunately, they're tricky to catch because the company is always
changing the text/links. So it's difficult to write code to find all of
them.

I suppose that I am the outlier here but I disagree.

Virus scanning is useful info and should not be removed - unlike the
strictly
obnoxious advertisements "Sent from ..." and such.





moderated Re: Subject tags in non-group posts #bug

Andy Wedge
 

On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 03:42 PM, Tanya's Feline CKD Website wrote:
I hate having subject tags on posts that are not sent directly to the group itself. This is a recentissh change that has made it a lot harder to filter messages where they need to go in my e-mail program (e.g. just found a few subscription approval requests in the folder for that group's messages).
Hi Helen,

messages about subscription requests, message approval notifications and database updates etc. are flagged as notifications so my Outlook rule to trap these is:



Perhaps you can do something similar in your own email client?

Andy


moderated Re: Strip out more common email sigs #suggestion

Dave Sergeant
 

Indeed, which is why I always disabled these tag lines when I used
Avast. In any case, it is quite easy for the user to disable them in
Avast options, although slightly hidden.

I don't use Avast now, having realised that it had not alerted me to
anything for many years I have moved to Windows Defender which doesn't
have these quirks.

Dave

On 15 Jun 2021 at 22:42, D R Stinson wrote:

Virus scanning is useful info and should not be removed - unlike
the strictly obnoxious advertisements "Sent from ..." and such.
Remember - anything that can be added as a tag line can be spoofed. If
you're not doing your own virus scanning you're just waiting for
trouble. The only reason the VS companies put on a tag lines is
advertising.

http://davesergeant.com


moderated Re: Strip out more common email sigs #suggestion

 

Art commented:
I suppose that I am the outlier here but I disagree.

Virus scanning is useful info and should not be removed - unlike
the strictly obnoxious advertisements "Sent from ..." and such.
Remember - anything that can be added as a tag line can be spoofed. If you're not doing your own virus scanning you're just waiting for trouble. The only reason the VS companies put on a tag lines is advertising.

Dano


moderated Re: Strip out more common email sigs #suggestion

Art Kocsis
 

On 06-15-2021 12:46, Mark Fletcher wrote:
As for the Avast ads, I agree that they're super annoying. Unfortunately, they're tricky to catch because the company is always changing the text/links. So it's difficult to write code to find all of them.
I suppose that I am the outlier here but I disagree.

Virus scanning is useful info and should not be removed - unlike the strictly obnoxious advertisements "Sent from ..." and such.


moderated Re: Subject tags in non-group posts #bug

Donald Hellen
 

Tanya . . .

On Tue, 15 Jun 2021 07:08:47 -0700, "Tanya's Feline CKD Website"
<helen@felineckd.com> wrote:

Could it please just entirely disappear (my preference) or just remain at one subject tag at most.
If you're the group owner you can disable hashtags. We had some
complaints about them in one group I started so I disabled them and
made an announcement about it. Only a few subject threads had them
anyway, so it was not something most members even used.

You may be referring to something else, and if that's the case, please
disregard this.

Donald


This message transmitted on 100% recycled electrons.


moderated Re: Subject tags in non-group posts #bug

 

Hello,

I've made the code that processes subject lines of messages sent to the +owner address smarter, and you should no longer suffer from Group Subject Tag Build Up.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Strip out more common email sigs #suggestion

Duane
 

On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 04:45 PM, Drew wrote:
It may be possible to simply trim everything after a dash-dash-space sequence.
No, that's what the site uses for our signatures that we've set up for groups.  I haven't seen all of those used as AV ads, but I would think most, if not all, would say "virus free" or at least contain the word virus.

Duane


moderated Re: Strip out more common email sigs #suggestion

Drew
 

I guess I don't really get many of these annoying commercial sigs in the lists that I subscribe to, but I just searched through a bunch of email to find an Avast sig...

It is pre-pended with a "-- " (dash-dash-space sequence on a line of its own), which is the ancient standard sig separator from Usenet days of old. It may be possible to simply trim everything after a dash-dash-space sequence. I guess you would want to check an assortment of Avast sigs to see if they are consistent in this respect.

Also, regexp (regular expression) search & replace (if available) might be a more powerful way of trimming Avast and other such sigs rather than trying to specify every existing variation.

Drew

On 06/15/21 14:46, Mark Fletcher wrote:
On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 6:38 AM Andy Wedge <andy_wedge@linetwo.co.uk <mailto:andy_wedge@linetwo.co.uk>> wrote:
| www.emclient.com <http://www.emclient.com>
/(Note: not prefixed with 'Sent')/
I've added these, thanks.
As for the Avast ads, I agree that they're super annoying. Unfortunately, they're tricky to catch because the company is always changing the text/links. So it's difficult to write code to find all of them.
Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Subject tags in non-group posts #bug

Bruce Bowman
 

On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 03:41 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Definitely sounds like a bug.
If it's what I think it is, I wouldn't call it a bug...just a missing feature.

How are these messages being sent? Are you just sending messages to +owner?
Subject Tags accumulate when folks repeatedly forward (or CC) sequential messages to the +owner address. Keeping the Subject Tag short makes this less objectionable. I would not want to eliminate the Subject Tag altogether, as that's a step backward. If you could somehow parse the subject line so that only the first one was retained, that would be good.

Regards,
Bruce


moderated Re: Strip out more common email sigs #suggestion

Larry Finch
 



On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 4:39 PM Malcolm Austen <malcolm.austen@...> wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jun 2021 20:46:56 +0100, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

As for the Avast ads, I agree that they're super annoying. Unfortunately, they're tricky to catch because the company is always changing the text/links. So it's difficult to write code to find all of them.

Sure, I didn't think it would be easy Mark - especially for AV software in general rather than just Avast.

Still, if you ever think of a way to do it, please do.


This story is a year old, and they claim they have stopped being evil, but do you trust them?


--
Larry Finch

N 40° 53' 50"
W 74° 02' 55"


moderated Re: Strip out more common email sigs #suggestion

 

On Tue, 15 Jun 2021 20:46:56 +0100, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

As for the Avast ads, I agree that they're super annoying. Unfortunately, they're tricky to catch because the company is always changing the text/links. So it's difficult to write code to find all of them.

I didn't think it would be easy Mark - especially for AV software in general rather than just Avast.

Still, if you ever think of a way to do it, please do.
 

 
For AVG Free users it can be done manually.
Open AVG and go to Menu > Settings
Under "Basic protection" - "Email Shield", UNcheck "Add a signature to the end of sent emails."
 
Someone please correct this if you find it doesn't work.
 
Dano
 
 
 


moderated Re: Strip out more common email sigs #suggestion

Malcolm Austen
 

On Tue, 15 Jun 2021 20:46:56 +0100, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

As for the Avast ads, I agree that they're super annoying. Unfortunately, they're tricky to catch because the company is always changing the text/links. So it's difficult to write code to find all of them.

Sure, I didn't think it would be easy Mark - especially for AV software in general rather than just Avast.

Still, if you ever think of a way to do it, please do.

Malcolm.

--
Malcolm Austen - email: malcolm.austen@...


moderated Re: Strip out more common email sigs #suggestion

Malcolm Austen
 

On Tue, 15 Jun 2021 20:43:13 +0100, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 07:04 AM, Malcolm Austen wrote:
the common AV advert
Does that mean Avast? If not, those should also be removed.

I meant any AV software, not just Avast although that seems to be the most common offender of late.

Malcolm.

--
Malcolm Austen - email: malcolm.austen@...


moderated Re: "Last successful delivery" link goes to topic, not message, if member chooses to follow a topic #bug

 

Mark,

Ok, good that it goes to a message. The problem is that it's going to the first message of a topic, when actually the member received the last message in the topic. I can no longer send you the exact case because the member's history has changed since then, but I will try to do a test in my test group and send you the results.

Thanks.

On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 12:54 PM Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 7:01 PM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
When someone changes to Following Only and then choose to follow some topic, their "Most Recent Successful Delivery" in their email delivery history goes to the first message in that topic rather than the last one. In other words, the link is to the topic as a whole, not actually to the last message they received. My understanding is that the last successful delivery is supposed to rever to a message. So this seems like a bug (either in the sense that it goes to the topic, or that it's going to the wrong message).

I just checked the code, and it does go to a message. If you're seeing something strange, can you reply off-list with the name of the group and the member's email address?

Thanks,
Mark 


--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: "Last successful delivery" link goes to topic, not message, if member chooses to follow a topic #bug

 

On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 7:01 PM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
When someone changes to Following Only and then choose to follow some topic, their "Most Recent Successful Delivery" in their email delivery history goes to the first message in that topic rather than the last one. In other words, the link is to the topic as a whole, not actually to the last message they received. My understanding is that the last successful delivery is supposed to rever to a message. So this seems like a bug (either in the sense that it goes to the topic, or that it's going to the wrong message).

I just checked the code, and it does go to a message. If you're seeing something strange, can you reply off-list with the name of the group and the member's email address?

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Strip out more common email sigs #suggestion

 

On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 6:38 AM Andy Wedge <andy_wedge@...> wrote:








| www.emclient.com
    (Note: not prefixed with 'Sent')




I've added these, thanks.

As for the Avast ads, I agree that they're super annoying. Unfortunately, they're tricky to catch because the company is always changing the text/links. So it's difficult to write code to find all of them.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Strip out more common email sigs #suggestion

 

On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 07:04 AM, Malcolm Austen wrote:
the common AV advert
Does that mean Avast? If not, those should also be removed.
 
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Subject tags in non-group posts #bug

 

On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 7:42 AM Tanya's Feline CKD Website <helen@...> wrote:

What I am flagging as a bug is the endless repetition of these subject tags. One is now being added every time the mods write to each other, or whenever the mods communicate privately with group members. A current thread running behind the scenes of my group has four at the moment. You can't see the actual subject line for all the subject tags! Could it please just entirely disappear (my preference) or just remain at one subject tag at most.

Definitely sounds like a bug. How are these messages being sent? Are you just sending messages to +owner?

Thanks,
Mark 

661 - 680 of 30101