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moderated Re: Strip out more common email sigs #suggestion

 

Art commented:
I suppose that I am the outlier here but I disagree.

Virus scanning is useful info and should not be removed - unlike
the strictly obnoxious advertisements "Sent from ..." and such.
Remember - anything that can be added as a tag line can be spoofed. If you're not doing your own virus scanning you're just waiting for trouble. The only reason the VS companies put on a tag lines is advertising.

Dano


moderated Re: Strip out more common email sigs #suggestion

Art Kocsis
 

On 06-15-2021 12:46, Mark Fletcher wrote:
As for the Avast ads, I agree that they're super annoying. Unfortunately, they're tricky to catch because the company is always changing the text/links. So it's difficult to write code to find all of them.
I suppose that I am the outlier here but I disagree.

Virus scanning is useful info and should not be removed - unlike the strictly obnoxious advertisements "Sent from ..." and such.


moderated Re: Subject tags in non-group posts #bug

Donald Hellen
 

Tanya . . .

On Tue, 15 Jun 2021 07:08:47 -0700, "Tanya's Feline CKD Website"
<helen@felineckd.com> wrote:

Could it please just entirely disappear (my preference) or just remain at one subject tag at most.
If you're the group owner you can disable hashtags. We had some
complaints about them in one group I started so I disabled them and
made an announcement about it. Only a few subject threads had them
anyway, so it was not something most members even used.

You may be referring to something else, and if that's the case, please
disregard this.

Donald


This message transmitted on 100% recycled electrons.


moderated Re: Subject tags in non-group posts #bug

 

Hello,

I've made the code that processes subject lines of messages sent to the +owner address smarter, and you should no longer suffer from Group Subject Tag Build Up.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Strip out more common email sigs #suggestion

Duane
 

On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 04:45 PM, Drew wrote:
It may be possible to simply trim everything after a dash-dash-space sequence.
No, that's what the site uses for our signatures that we've set up for groups.  I haven't seen all of those used as AV ads, but I would think most, if not all, would say "virus free" or at least contain the word virus.

Duane


moderated Re: Strip out more common email sigs #suggestion

Drew
 

I guess I don't really get many of these annoying commercial sigs in the lists that I subscribe to, but I just searched through a bunch of email to find an Avast sig...

It is pre-pended with a "-- " (dash-dash-space sequence on a line of its own), which is the ancient standard sig separator from Usenet days of old. It may be possible to simply trim everything after a dash-dash-space sequence. I guess you would want to check an assortment of Avast sigs to see if they are consistent in this respect.

Also, regexp (regular expression) search & replace (if available) might be a more powerful way of trimming Avast and other such sigs rather than trying to specify every existing variation.

Drew

On 06/15/21 14:46, Mark Fletcher wrote:
On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 6:38 AM Andy Wedge <andy_wedge@linetwo.co.uk <mailto:andy_wedge@linetwo.co.uk>> wrote:
| www.emclient.com <http://www.emclient.com>
/(Note: not prefixed with 'Sent')/
I've added these, thanks.
As for the Avast ads, I agree that they're super annoying. Unfortunately, they're tricky to catch because the company is always changing the text/links. So it's difficult to write code to find all of them.
Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Subject tags in non-group posts #bug

Bruce Bowman
 

On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 03:41 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Definitely sounds like a bug.
If it's what I think it is, I wouldn't call it a bug...just a missing feature.

How are these messages being sent? Are you just sending messages to +owner?
Subject Tags accumulate when folks repeatedly forward (or CC) sequential messages to the +owner address. Keeping the Subject Tag short makes this less objectionable. I would not want to eliminate the Subject Tag altogether, as that's a step backward. If you could somehow parse the subject line so that only the first one was retained, that would be good.

Regards,
Bruce


moderated Re: Strip out more common email sigs #suggestion

Larry Finch
 



On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 4:39 PM Malcolm Austen <malcolm.austen@...> wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jun 2021 20:46:56 +0100, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

As for the Avast ads, I agree that they're super annoying. Unfortunately, they're tricky to catch because the company is always changing the text/links. So it's difficult to write code to find all of them.

Sure, I didn't think it would be easy Mark - especially for AV software in general rather than just Avast.

Still, if you ever think of a way to do it, please do.


This story is a year old, and they claim they have stopped being evil, but do you trust them?


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Larry Finch

N 40° 53' 50"
W 74° 02' 55"


moderated Re: Strip out more common email sigs #suggestion

 

On Tue, 15 Jun 2021 20:46:56 +0100, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

As for the Avast ads, I agree that they're super annoying. Unfortunately, they're tricky to catch because the company is always changing the text/links. So it's difficult to write code to find all of them.

I didn't think it would be easy Mark - especially for AV software in general rather than just Avast.

Still, if you ever think of a way to do it, please do.
 

 
For AVG Free users it can be done manually.
Open AVG and go to Menu > Settings
Under "Basic protection" - "Email Shield", UNcheck "Add a signature to the end of sent emails."
 
Someone please correct this if you find it doesn't work.
 
Dano
 
 
 


moderated Re: Strip out more common email sigs #suggestion

Malcolm Austen
 

On Tue, 15 Jun 2021 20:46:56 +0100, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

As for the Avast ads, I agree that they're super annoying. Unfortunately, they're tricky to catch because the company is always changing the text/links. So it's difficult to write code to find all of them.

Sure, I didn't think it would be easy Mark - especially for AV software in general rather than just Avast.

Still, if you ever think of a way to do it, please do.

Malcolm.

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moderated Re: Strip out more common email sigs #suggestion

Malcolm Austen
 

On Tue, 15 Jun 2021 20:43:13 +0100, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 07:04 AM, Malcolm Austen wrote:
the common AV advert
Does that mean Avast? If not, those should also be removed.

I meant any AV software, not just Avast although that seems to be the most common offender of late.

Malcolm.

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moderated Re: "Last successful delivery" link goes to topic, not message, if member chooses to follow a topic #bug

 

Mark,

Ok, good that it goes to a message. The problem is that it's going to the first message of a topic, when actually the member received the last message in the topic. I can no longer send you the exact case because the member's history has changed since then, but I will try to do a test in my test group and send you the results.

Thanks.

On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 12:54 PM Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 7:01 PM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
When someone changes to Following Only and then choose to follow some topic, their "Most Recent Successful Delivery" in their email delivery history goes to the first message in that topic rather than the last one. In other words, the link is to the topic as a whole, not actually to the last message they received. My understanding is that the last successful delivery is supposed to rever to a message. So this seems like a bug (either in the sense that it goes to the topic, or that it's going to the wrong message).

I just checked the code, and it does go to a message. If you're seeing something strange, can you reply off-list with the name of the group and the member's email address?

Thanks,
Mark 


--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: "Last successful delivery" link goes to topic, not message, if member chooses to follow a topic #bug

 

On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 7:01 PM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
When someone changes to Following Only and then choose to follow some topic, their "Most Recent Successful Delivery" in their email delivery history goes to the first message in that topic rather than the last one. In other words, the link is to the topic as a whole, not actually to the last message they received. My understanding is that the last successful delivery is supposed to rever to a message. So this seems like a bug (either in the sense that it goes to the topic, or that it's going to the wrong message).

I just checked the code, and it does go to a message. If you're seeing something strange, can you reply off-list with the name of the group and the member's email address?

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Strip out more common email sigs #suggestion

 

On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 6:38 AM Andy Wedge <andy_wedge@...> wrote:








| www.emclient.com
    (Note: not prefixed with 'Sent')




I've added these, thanks.

As for the Avast ads, I agree that they're super annoying. Unfortunately, they're tricky to catch because the company is always changing the text/links. So it's difficult to write code to find all of them.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Strip out more common email sigs #suggestion

 

On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 07:04 AM, Malcolm Austen wrote:
the common AV advert
Does that mean Avast? If not, those should also be removed.
 
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Subject tags in non-group posts #bug

 

On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 7:42 AM Tanya's Feline CKD Website <helen@...> wrote:

What I am flagging as a bug is the endless repetition of these subject tags. One is now being added every time the mods write to each other, or whenever the mods communicate privately with group members. A current thread running behind the scenes of my group has four at the moment. You can't see the actual subject line for all the subject tags! Could it please just entirely disappear (my preference) or just remain at one subject tag at most.

Definitely sounds like a bug. How are these messages being sent? Are you just sending messages to +owner?

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Subject tags in non-group posts #bug

Malcolm Austen
 

This may not be the same issue but certainly since a change several months ago I have been aware that emails to +owner have the prefix text prefixed to them even if the text is already there ...

I just have not had time to study it properly/fully for a report ...

Malcolm.

On Tue, 15 Jun 2021 15:08:47 +0100, Tanya's Feline CKD Website <helen@felineckd.com> wrote:

Popping my head above the parapet because this is driving me mad.

I hate having subject tags on posts that are not sent directly to the group itself. This is a recentissh change that has made it a lot harder to filter messages where they need to go in my e-mail program (e.g. just found a few subscription approval requests in the folder for that group's messages). But I don't get my requests granted, so I'm just sucking it up .

What I am flagging as a bug is the endless repetition of these subject tags. One is now being added every time the mods write to each other, or whenever the mods communicate privately with group members. A current thread running behind the scenes of my group has four at the moment. You can't see the actual subject line for all the subject tags! Could it please just entirely disappear (my preference) or just remain at one subject tag at most.

Thanks

Helen (not Tanya)



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Malcolm Austen - email: malcolm.austen@weald.org.uk


moderated Subject tags in non-group posts #bug

 

Popping my head above the parapet because this is driving me mad.

I hate having subject tags on posts that are not sent directly to the group itself. This is a recentissh change that has made it a lot harder to filter messages where they need to go in my e-mail program (e.g. just found a few subscription approval requests in the folder for that group's messages). But I don't get my requests granted, so I'm just sucking it up .

What I am flagging as a bug is the endless repetition of these subject tags. One is now being added every time the mods write to each other, or whenever the mods communicate privately with group members. A current thread running behind the scenes of my group has four at the moment. You can't see the actual subject line for all the subject tags! Could it please just entirely disappear (my preference) or just remain at one subject tag at most.

Thanks

Helen (not Tanya)


moderated Re: Strip out more common email sigs #suggestion

Malcolm Austen
 

Ooo, could we add the common AV advert appendages to that list please?

Malcolm.

On Tue, 15 Jun 2021 13:24:33 +0100, Andy Wedge <andy_wedge@...> wrote:

Hi Mark,

Following on from a previous Changelog I have a few suggestions to add to the list of common email sigs to strip out:

Sent from the all-new AOL app for Android
Sent from my Galaxy
Sent from Samsung Mobile on O2
Sent from my Huawei phone
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone
Sent from Outlook Mobile
Sent from Nine
Sent from eM Client | www.emclient.com
from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone    (Note: not prefixed with 'Sent')
Sent from my Samsung device
Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
Get Outlook for Android

Thanks
Andy



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Malcolm Austen - email: malcolm.austen@...


moderated Strip out more common email sigs #suggestion

Andy Wedge
 

Hi Mark,

Following on from a previous Changelog I have a few suggestions to add to the list of common email sigs to strip out:

Sent from the all-new AOL app for Android
Sent from my Galaxy
Sent from Samsung Mobile on O2
Sent from my Huawei phone
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone
Sent from Outlook Mobile
Sent from Nine
Sent from eM Client | www.emclient.com
from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone    (Note: not prefixed with 'Sent')
Sent from my Samsung device
Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
Get Outlook for Android

Thanks
Andy

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