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locked Re: Community Code of Conduct

Steph <hsrsp@...>
 

Yeah I think the thing regarding lurkers should be up to each individual group owner/moderator. Steph

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From: "Diana Gregory" <diana@catsandme.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 12:08 PM
To: <beta@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [beta] Re: Community Code of Conduct

On 6/9/2015 9:19 AM, vickie via Groups.io wrote:

You may want to add lurkers also..
That's the one that should be group-specific, because I don't
mind lurkers. I'm more concerned about prolific posters who
get hacked, if they are not moderated.

dg


locked Re: Community Code of Conduct

 

On 6/9/2015 9:19 AM, vickie via Groups.io wrote:

You may want to add lurkers also..
That's the one that should be group-specific, because I don't
mind lurkers. I'm more concerned about prolific posters who
get hacked, if they are not moderated.

dg


locked Re: Like

vickie <vickie_00@...>
 

Frances  >>>> “like" should be something that the owner can offer as an option.

I would agree with that..  and hopefully  the moderator would keep it on a specific topic 
that  pertains to ideas or improvements to the group
 

´
Vickie

 





 


From: Frances <travel@...>
To: beta@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [beta] Like

Hi

Not sure I see the need for “dislike”.
“Everyone” understands that “like” means that they agree or support. 
Saves needless emails saying, yes, I agree!

Probably “like" should be something that the owner can offer as an option.

Frances

On Jun 9 15, at 12:40 PM, vickie via Groups.io <vickie_00@...> wrote:


I agree also.  especially with what Brenda said >>>I wouldn't want anyone to offend anyone else with a dislike
Your dealing with different personalities and some make take offence to  a dislike mark on them
Some may click dislike just because they may not like the other person..
Why leave the door open for potential problems ..
My 2 cents.
´
Vickie



locked Re: Like

Frances
 

Hi

Not sure I see the need for “dislike”.
“Everyone” understands that “like” means that they agree or support. 
Saves needless emails saying, yes, I agree!

Probably “like" should be something that the owner can offer as an option.

Frances

On Jun 9 15, at 12:40 PM, vickie via Groups.io <vickie_00@...> wrote:


I agree also.  especially with what Brenda said >>>I wouldn't want anyone to offend anyone else with a dislike
Your dealing with different personalities and some make take offence to  a dislike mark on them
Some may click dislike just because they may not like the other person..
Why leave the door open for potential problems ..
My 2 cents.
´
Vickie


locked Re: Like

vickie <vickie_00@...>
 


I agree also.  especially with what Brenda said >>>I wouldn't want anyone to offend anyone else with a dislike
Your dealing with different personalities and some make take offence to  a dislike mark on them
Some may click dislike just because they may not like the other person..
Why leave the door open for potential problems ..
My 2 cents.
´
Vickie

 





 


From: J. Faulkner <jfaulkner44@...>
To: beta@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 12:13 AM
Subject: RE: [beta] Re: Like

Brenda, I totally agree with you.

Judy F.
SW Florida - USA


-----Original Message-----
From: Feathered Leader [mailto:featheredleader@...]
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 10:36 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: [beta] Re: Like

Duane,

Regarding the Like/Dislike option being a choice for the owner:

I agree with your logic here. In the Yahoo Crusade Group (MM Sanctuary), there isn't much need for like or even dislike, as it's an instructional group, either to help people cope with Yahoo's redesign, leave Yahoo entirely, or learn how to use Groups IO.

My social group, which I have yet to populate, has no need at all for a like or dislike, as I wouldn't want anyone to offend anyone else with a dislike, and a like doesn't make much sense for that.

And my Owl perch group is strictly for the moderators and I to communicate about the Yahoo Crusade group, and also has no need for like or dislike.

So I would support having it as an option to turn on or off by the owner for each group as they desire.

Brenda
Nightowl >8#








locked Re: Community Code of Conduct

vickie <vickie_00@...>
 

dg >>>>> because they are informational, not conversational...

You may want to add lurkers also..
Pertaining to lurkers  perhaps there should be a requirement they submit a message at least 
once a month to insure  they are still  part of the group and to insure their emails have not  been hacked?..
 

´
Vickie

 





 


From: Diana Gregory <diana@...>
To: beta@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [beta] Re: Community Code of Conduct

And just another one - participation guidelines, which I have
noticed a lot of owners have - should be list specific.

I own a lot of lists where most of the people never post
(and am *ON* a lot where I don't post), because they are
informational, not conversational...

dg





locked Digest run this morning

 

Hi all,

I had to run digests this morning to fix a deadlock issue. So if you or any of your members received a digest this morning and were wondering why, that's the reason. This was a one time event.

Thanks,
Mark


locked Re: Community Code of Conduct

 

And just another one - participation guidelines, which I have
noticed a lot of owners have - should be list specific.

I own a lot of lists where most of the people never post
(and am *ON* a lot where I don't post), because they are
informational, not conversational...

dg


locked Re: Community Code of Conduct

 
Edited

On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 10:54 pm, Shal Farley wrote:
If Trish, Vickie, Dano, Duane, and other contributors would care to help curate a collection of sample codes of conduct I've set up a page for that in Group Managers Forum's Wiki. Or if you'd give your permission (off-list) I'll copy your contribution into the wiki and give you attribution by way of a link back to the post here in beta.
Shal, use what you'd like. I'm responding here on list to offer one very short and to the point code of conduct for a small group I belong to. It's a small group of grumpy old men, and politics has specifically been banned from the group. The only other guidelines follow:

"What people *do* is on topic.
What people *are* is off topic.

"First post will be moderated to make sure you aren't selling lipstick. Moderator is more than a little flaky so it may take a couple hours to appear.

"Language on this list may not be suitable for everyone. If you are offended by the occasional four-letter word, enter this list at your own risk. The twenty-three letter words are really interesting . . .

"No naked posting. You must be wearing something to post messages. Socks are OK. Purple Nike's are appropriate wear for the Mothership arrival."

Needless to say, the last one is difficult to enforce. But this brief list offers, in a very simple way, a simple guideline that, in a humorous way, gets across an important idea.

Dano


locked Extra blank lines in quoted material

 

I've noticed that messages seem to pick up a huge number of blank lines in quoted material. David's message #2945 is a good example of this. Is there a way to have the system parse out and eliminate extra spaces?
To be honest, with the groups.io system, I'm finding very little reason to use quoted text unless it's to respond to a particular line. If I look right below the last line, I can press "View Thread" and see everything else up to that reply. (And, of course, all the extra quoted trash.)
Dano


locked Re: Pagination in Messages, Invites Outstanding, members etc.

 

> At teh moment, pagination control is at the bottom of the page.  It would be useful to have this also at the top, so that it's not necessary to scroll down when you know what page you want.

> Alastair

Thanks for mentioning this again, Alastair. I mentioned it once before, but I wasn't certain from the response then that I'd worded it in a way that others understood. I've been using the website to access the group, primarily because it's so much easier than any other group system. It also seems like there are more people reviewing the email response system. There are a couple other things that I've noticed but I'll respond to them with separate messages.

Dano


locked Pagination in Messages, Invites Outstanding, members etc.

 

At teh moment, pagination control is at the bottom of the page.   It would be useful to have this also at the top, so that it's not necessary to scroll down when you know what page you want.

Alastair


locked Re: Community Code of Conduct

Nightowl >8#
 

Shal Farley wrote:>>Thanks for reminding me about this thread. ;-)<<

Glad my lateness was good for something! :) No problem!

Shal wrote:>>Or if you'd give your permission (off-list) I'll copy your contribution into the wiki and give you attribution by way of a link back to the post here in beta.<<

So I write the post in here, and then send you permission to copy it off list? Did I get that right?

Brenda


locked Re: Community Code of Conduct

 

Brenda,

Note: I'm way behind in here, sorry.
Thanks for reminding me about this thread. ;-)

I have at least three groups on here with no activity for 60 or 90
days.

One is new, and not yet populated. The other two are used as needed.

So that would be a big problem for me if groups had to have posts every
60 - 90 days.
That's what I was getting at in suggesting that a Code of Conduct for Groups.io as a whole would need to be very broad, leaving detailed rules such as that to individual groups.

If Trish, Vickie, Dano, Duane, and other contributors would care to help curate a collection of sample codes of conduct I've set up a page for that in Group Managers Forum's Wiki. Or if you'd give your permission (off-list) I'll copy your contribution into the wiki and give you attribution by way of a link back to the post here in beta.
https://groups.io/org/groupsio/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Group-Rules

The idea is to have a collection of examples to serve as food for thought, which group managers can read, think about, and copy or adapt for use in their own group(s).

-- Shal


locked Re: Like

 

I would support three options.

Like/Dislike disabled, Like Only, Like and dislike

On 9 June 2015 at 14:13, J. Faulkner <jfaulkner44@...> wrote:
Brenda, I totally agree with you.

Judy F.
SW Florida - USA


-----Original Message-----
From: Feathered Leader [mailto:featheredleader@...]
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 10:36 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: [beta] Re: Like

Duane,

Regarding the Like/Dislike option being a choice for the owner:

I agree with your logic here. In the Yahoo Crusade Group (MM Sanctuary), there isn't much need for like or even dislike, as it's an instructional group, either to help people cope with Yahoo's redesign, leave Yahoo entirely, or learn how to use Groups IO.

My social group, which I have yet to populate, has no need at all for a like or dislike, as I wouldn't want anyone to offend anyone else with a dislike, and a like doesn't make much sense for that.

And my Owl perch group is strictly for the moderators and I to communicate about the Yahoo Crusade group, and also has no need for like or dislike.

So I would support having it as an option to turn on or off by the owner for each group as they desire.

Brenda
Nightowl >8#








locked Re: Including subject in moderator message approval requests #suggestion

Nightowl >8#
 

John probably reported this, because I don't ever open attachments without his approval or his being right here, unless I know for a fact they are from someone I know and are safe. And even then, I still usually ask him to be here.

So that would slow me down as Moderator if I had to wait for every moderated message attachment to be seen by John.

John did show me that I could find the title on the site, but it would be nice to have the title in the actual pending e-mail, not only in an attachment.

Brenda
(Finally catching up in here!)


locked Re: Like

Judy F.
 

Brenda, I totally agree with you.

Judy F.
SW Florida - USA

-----Original Message-----
From: Feathered Leader [mailto:featheredleader@att.net]
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 10:36 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: [beta] Re: Like

Duane,

Regarding the Like/Dislike option being a choice for the owner:

I agree with your logic here. In the Yahoo Crusade Group (MM Sanctuary), there isn't much need for like or even dislike, as it's an instructional group, either to help people cope with Yahoo's redesign, leave Yahoo entirely, or learn how to use Groups IO.

My social group, which I have yet to populate, has no need at all for a like or dislike, as I wouldn't want anyone to offend anyone else with a dislike, and a like doesn't make much sense for that.

And my Owl perch group is strictly for the moderators and I to communicate about the Yahoo Crusade group, and also has no need for like or dislike.

So I would support having it as an option to turn on or off by the owner for each group as they desire.

Brenda
Nightowl >8#


locked Re: Like

Nightowl >8#
 

Duane,

Regarding the Like/Dislike option being a choice for the owner:

I agree with your logic here. In the Yahoo Crusade Group (MM Sanctuary), there isn't much need for like or even dislike, as it's an instructional group, either to help people cope with Yahoo's redesign, leave Yahoo entirely, or learn how to use Groups IO.

My social group, which I have yet to populate, has no need at all for a like or dislike, as I wouldn't want anyone to offend anyone else with a dislike, and a like doesn't make much sense for that.

And my Owl perch group is strictly for the moderators and I to communicate about the Yahoo Crusade group, and also has no need for like or dislike.

So I would support having it as an option to turn on or off by the owner for each group as they desire.

Brenda
Nightowl >8#


locked Re: duplicate members showing in database

Michael Capelle <michael.capelle@...>
 

ahhh, got ya, i think it is fixed now.

-----Original Message-----
From: Duane
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 7:51 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: [beta] Re: duplicate members showing in database

I thought this had happened to me once, but closer examination showed that one of them had a comma instead of a period in the email address. I deleted that one since they would never get the confirmation email.

Duane


locked Re: duplicate members showing in database

Duane
 

I thought this had happened to me once, but closer examination showed that one of them had a comma instead of a period in the email address. I deleted that one since they would never get the confirmation email.

Duane