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moderated Re: Checkboxes in emailed photos section for bulk deletion of copies, unwanted pictures #suggestion

Pat Pratt
 

Tony and Jay, I agree, The ability to bulk delete would be great!!!!
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Pat Pratt


moderated Re: "member message" urgently needs logging #suggestion #fixed

 

On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 08:46 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
nowhere to be found
nowhere to be found or even known whether it had been sent.
 
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: "member message" urgently needs logging #suggestion #fixed

 

Because I finally had the last straw? The situation was really egregious this morning, the infamous worst-case scenario that I always worried might happen because of the no logging. It happened. It was a very sensitive message to a group member and it was nowhere to be found.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Checkboxes in emailed photos section for bulk deletion of copies, unwanted pictures #suggestion

Jay Elvove
 

As the person (I think) who initiated this thread most recently, I'll weigh in as well.  I'm a champion of groups.io, and I manage several groups of various sizes (paid and unpaid), but I was surprised to discover that there is virtually no bulk processing capability for working with directories and files (which, of course, includes photos), something that's been available on even the most rudimentary operating systems pretty much since their inception.  Bulk uploading is available, and it would be great to be able to bulk download, delete, and move items, perhaps, print or copy them as well.  I'm fairly certain that there's an underlying filesystem that can be accessed on the backend by groups.io support.  It would be great if owners and moderators (and, perhaps, regular users) could have at least rudimentary access to it as well.  I've seen requests for this feature in the forums often.  Perhaps, there's more to implementing this feature than I realize, but even if that's the case, I'd like to know from an official source if it's at least something in the pipeline.  And as there seems not to be a way to do this now, please let me know how I can get help deleting the hundreds of signature files that are cluttering up our "Emailed Photos" folder.

Thanks very much,

Jay


moderated Re: "member message" urgently needs logging #suggestion #fixed

Andy Wedge
 

On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 07:53 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
the situation is dire (yes, it is dire! I am not exaggerating!)
It's always been this way so what has changed to suddenly make this so dire?  While I agree it would be nice, it doesn't prevent the application working so it's not exactly a showstopper.

Andy


moderated #suggestion Instant Down button #suggestion

A8
 



The image above is a thing that appears at the bottom of a page. If you click it it moves your view of the messages to the top.
It is a very common thing in forums.

Can we get one that scrolls one to the bottom, placed at the top of pages?
Also, what are these called/named?


moderated Re: "member message" urgently needs logging #suggestion #fixed

 

Exactly right! And this has gone on for as long as I’ve been in groups.io and beta - more than six years? That’s how long many of us have been begging for this.

 In the beginning, it was promised by Mark as part of the “upcoming notification overhaul.’ And so when anyone else asked for it, for years I’d tell them it was coming, and in the meantime to use bcc. But since then, nothing but  radio silence.

The bcc workaround is subject to human error. “Did I just forget to bcc myself?” “How can I find out what really happened and whether the message was sung at all? Check the log? Oh, wait, there’s never a log of this.”

If is incredibly frustrating, and the more so due to how long this lack  has existed. 

And please, don’t anyone suggest the workaround of messaging the member to ask whether they got the message.:-) Even doing so nit through groups.io is not going to work. Mods don’t want to have to PM a member to ask things like. “Excuse me, but did you happen to get my message this morning telling yoj yourd now on moderation?”






On May 10, 2021, at 12:53 PM, Dan Tucker - FireTuck <antiquetuck@...> wrote:



I can’t say that I disagree with J_ on this one. I’ve used the BCC: method for lots of things also but there’s NOTHING like having a first-hand, built-in logging for all messages. (period)

 

Workarounds – we all have them – are JUST THAT. They’re individualized solutions to what is usually a common problem. Since many are duplicated or redundant, it’s proven by fact that they’re justified. If “everybody does it” then it just seems right that nobody should have to do it – it should be done at the developer level.

 

Just sayin’

 

Dan Tucker, Groups.io  AFDRetiree’s Group Founder/Owner/Moderator

 

From: "main@beta.groups.io" <main@beta.groups.io> on behalf of J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...>
Reply-To: "main@beta.groups.io" <main@beta.groups.io>
Date: Monday, May 10, 2021 at 11:27 AM
To: "main@beta.groups.io" <main@beta.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [beta] "member message" urgently needs logging #suggestion

 

And preferably, the text of the message should also be recorded/preserved, as with the text for a rejected message, invitations, etc.

 

 This has become a very severe lack at this point.



On May 10, 2021, at 12:22 PM, J_Catlady via groups.io <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

Right, That’s always the answer to this (badly needed) suggestion. And when the bcc doesn’t come thru, you’re stuck wondering whether the bcc failed (you forgot to click the box?) or the message didn’t go thru at all. There absolutely, positively needs to be a record somewhere that the message happened, independent of the bcc.



On May 10, 2021, at 12:19 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:

On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 01:53 PM, J_Catlady wrote:

There is absolutely no record of messages to members by mods

There's always a record if you Bcc: yourself.  That's what I do, so really have no need for it to be logged.

Duane


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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: "member message" urgently needs logging #suggestion #fixed

 

I can’t say that I disagree with J_ on this one. I’ve used the BCC: method for lots of things also but there’s NOTHING like having a first-hand, built-in logging for all messages. (period)

 

Workarounds – we all have them – are JUST THAT. They’re individualized solutions to what is usually a common problem. Since many are duplicated or redundant, it’s proven by fact that they’re justified. If “everybody does it” then it just seems right that nobody should have to do it – it should be done at the developer level.

 

Just sayin’

 

Dan Tucker, Groups.io  AFDRetiree’s Group Founder/Owner/Moderator

 

From: "main@beta.groups.io" <main@beta.groups.io> on behalf of J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...>
Reply-To: "main@beta.groups.io" <main@beta.groups.io>
Date: Monday, May 10, 2021 at 11:27 AM
To: "main@beta.groups.io" <main@beta.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [beta] "member message" urgently needs logging #suggestion

 

And preferably, the text of the message should also be recorded/preserved, as with the text for a rejected message, invitations, etc.

 

 This has become a very severe lack at this point.



On May 10, 2021, at 12:22 PM, J_Catlady via groups.io <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

Right, That’s always the answer to this (badly needed) suggestion. And when the bcc doesn’t come thru, you’re stuck wondering whether the bcc failed (you forgot to click the box?) or the message didn’t go thru at all. There absolutely, positively needs to be a record somewhere that the message happened, independent of the bcc.



On May 10, 2021, at 12:19 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:

On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 01:53 PM, J_Catlady wrote:

There is absolutely no record of messages to members by mods

There's always a record if you Bcc: yourself.  That's what I do, so really have no need for it to be logged.

Duane


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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: "member message" urgently needs logging #suggestion #fixed

 

And preferably, the text of the message should also be recorded/preserved, as with the text for a rejected message, invitations, etc.

 This has become a very severe lack at this point.


On May 10, 2021, at 12:22 PM, J_Catlady via groups.io <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

Right, That’s always the answer to this (badly needed) suggestion. And when the bcc doesn’t come thru, you’re stuck wondering whether the bcc failed (you forgot to click the box?) or the message didn’t go thru at all. There absolutely, positively needs to be a record somewhere that the message happened, independent of the bcc.


On May 10, 2021, at 12:19 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:

On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 01:53 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
There is absolutely no record of messages to members by mods
There's always a record if you Bcc: yourself.  That's what I do, so really have no need for it to be logged.

Duane

--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: "member message" urgently needs logging #suggestion #fixed

 

Right, That’s always the answer to this (badly needed) suggestion. And when the bcc doesn’t come thru, you’re stuck wondering whether the bcc failed (you forgot to click the box?) or the message didn’t go thru at all. There absolutely, positively needs to be a record somewhere that the message happened, independent of the bcc.


On May 10, 2021, at 12:19 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:

On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 01:53 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
There is absolutely no record of messages to members by mods
There's always a record if you Bcc: yourself.  That's what I do, so really have no need for it to be logged.

Duane

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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: "member message" urgently needs logging #suggestion #fixed

Duane
 

On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 01:53 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
There is absolutely no record of messages to members by mods
There's always a record if you Bcc: yourself.  That's what I do, so really have no need for it to be logged.

Duane


moderated "member message" urgently needs logging #suggestion #fixed

 

This has been requested countless times in the past: There is absolutely no record of messages to members by mods, and the situation is dire (yes, it is dire! I am not exaggerating!) Please, please, please consider adding this to the log as soon as possible.

Thanks.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: #meta Is there a way to support a #suggestion #meta

 

Click "Like." And to do that via email, reply with +1.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: #meta Is there a way to support a #suggestion #meta

Chris Jones
 

On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 04:56 PM, A8 wrote:
Is there a way for users to show support for suggestions?
You mean like clicking the "Like" tab?

Chris


moderated #meta Is there a way to support a #suggestion #meta

A8
 

Is there a way for users to show support for suggestions?

If not, can I make a suggestion we do that?


moderated Re: Checkboxes in emailed photos section for bulk deletion of copies, unwanted pictures #suggestion

Tony Moody
 

Yes, There must be a better way.
The existing method to delete a picture ; One at a time , look at the thumbnail pic, click to open, click to delete, click to confirm, is tedious but do-able.

However when there are several pictures to delete, it would be good to be able to select multiple discards and then go through a delete process.
Pehaps an 'are you really sure" process, then the pics are removed from the group page.
Perhaps keep the discards somewhere else for a while, a day, to allow inspection and change of mind, after which the pics are deleted permanently.

OK,
Tony


moderated Checkboxes in emailed photos section for bulk deletion of copies, unwanted pictures #suggestion

Donald Hellen
 

In the GMF group, someone mentioned that they had someone using a JPG
file for their signature and in the group's emailed photos section
there were hundreds of that picture there.

I had the same experience recently. After contacting him, the member
switched to a text only signature (there was only text, no image, in
the image signature file anyway) but I had probably 100 or so of those
to go in and delete from the attached pictures folder.

It would seem to make sense to have checkboxes for each picture then a
delete button on the page (bottom or top--doesn't matter) to
facilitate deleting multiple "photos" that are not needed but taking
up space. I believe even Yahoo Groups had such a feature.

I'd like to see this implemented. It has been suggested here before
but no action has been taken on this.

Donald


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moderated Re: #suggestion Add Group membership expiration #suggestion

Duane
 

On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 06:04 AM, Andy Wedge wrote:
  • The ability to initially set an expiration date for individual members on the Direct Add feature (as opposed to adding groups of members with the same expiry date)
  • If members join groups by accepting an invite, does the membership period start from the day of the invite or the day of acceptance?
I ran into a situation today where this feature would be very useful.  In my case, I'd want to just set the expiration date for each member, regardless of how they got into the group.  For our use, we'd only need a month and year, but I can see where an exact day might be needed.

Extra info:  It's for a club where expiration dates vary for each member at the end of a month.  If someone renews, I update for them.  Right now, I use a spreadsheet on my pc, but it would be very handy to have a reminder, and expiration removal if needed, be handled automatically.  Not a major problem though since we've only got about 30 members.

Thanks,
Duane


moderated RSVP Event Waitlist Position #misc

Andy Wedge
 

Hi Mark,

when you get added to a waitlist for an RSVP event, the following message is displayed at the top of the screen:



However, the Member's manual states your position in the waitlist will be given (my italics & bold):

Note: If the organizer has limited the number of attendees, and:

  • The event is full when you respond that you will attend: You are added to a wait list. A notification, with your position on the wait list, will be displayed at the top of the page.


Either the system or the manual needs updating so that they agree.

Thanks
Andy


moderated Site updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site this week:

May 7, 2021:

  • BUGFIX: When deleting a subscription (by leaving a group, being removed, etc), we deleted all pending digest messages for the user, even if the messages were in other groups the user was still a member of.

May 6, 2021:

  • CHANGE: More work on making the breadcrumbs behave consistently.

May 5, 2021:

  • BUGFIX: Pagination in database tables was not working for people with infinite scroll preference.
  • CHANGE: More work on making the breadcrumbs behave consistently.
  • CHANGE: The filter on the Members page is now scrollable and height limited, to work better on mobile.

May 4, 2021:

  • DOCS: Updates from Nina.
  • BUGFIX: Fixed issues with /viewevent page when viewing a repeating event: the Pick A Different Date to RSVP selector was never displayed, and we now present the repeating criteria in a more clear and separate way from the single event date.
  • CHANGE: Moved search bar into breadcrumb line in the search results page.
  • APP BUGFIX: Fixed issues with member filtering. Discussion

May 3, 2021:

  • INTERNAL: Switched primary replica database machine to a dedicated CPU instance to see if that fixes the periodic slowdown we were seeing in database responses.
  • CHANGE: Monthly updating of timezone selector.
  • BUGFIX: Fix breadcrumb issues in photo albums, messages, and topics. Discussion

Take care everyone.

Mark

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