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moderated RSVP Event Waitlist Position #misc

Andy Wedge
 

Hi Mark,

when you get added to a waitlist for an RSVP event, the following message is displayed at the top of the screen:



However, the Member's manual states your position in the waitlist will be given (my italics & bold):

Note: If the organizer has limited the number of attendees, and:

  • The event is full when you respond that you will attend: You are added to a wait list. A notification, with your position on the wait list, will be displayed at the top of the page.


Either the system or the manual needs updating so that they agree.

Thanks
Andy


moderated Site updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site this week:

May 7, 2021:

  • BUGFIX: When deleting a subscription (by leaving a group, being removed, etc), we deleted all pending digest messages for the user, even if the messages were in other groups the user was still a member of.

May 6, 2021:

  • CHANGE: More work on making the breadcrumbs behave consistently.

May 5, 2021:

  • BUGFIX: Pagination in database tables was not working for people with infinite scroll preference.
  • CHANGE: More work on making the breadcrumbs behave consistently.
  • CHANGE: The filter on the Members page is now scrollable and height limited, to work better on mobile.

May 4, 2021:

  • DOCS: Updates from Nina.
  • BUGFIX: Fixed issues with /viewevent page when viewing a repeating event: the Pick A Different Date to RSVP selector was never displayed, and we now present the repeating criteria in a more clear and separate way from the single event date.
  • CHANGE: Moved search bar into breadcrumb line in the search results page.
  • APP BUGFIX: Fixed issues with member filtering. Discussion

May 3, 2021:

  • INTERNAL: Switched primary replica database machine to a dedicated CPU instance to see if that fixes the periodic slowdown we were seeing in database responses.
  • CHANGE: Monthly updating of timezone selector.
  • BUGFIX: Fix breadcrumb issues in photo albums, messages, and topics. Discussion

Take care everyone.

Mark


moderated Re: Log the claiming of a pending member by a mod #suggestion #done

Duane
 

On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 02:25 PM, Malcolm Austen wrote:
I assumed that it explicitly prevented another moderator taking action on it.
It's only a notification.  Another mod can take it over, but only online.

Duane


moderated Re: Log the claiming of a pending member by a mod #suggestion #done

 

On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 12:25 PM, Malcolm Austen wrote:
Is "just informative" sufficient?
Not just sufficient. Actually better than locking out other moderators, for obvious reasons, including the (pseudo-)problem mentioned upthread.
 
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moderated Re: Log the claiming of a pending member by a mod #suggestion #done

Malcolm Austen
 

On Fri, 07 May 2021 17:53:47 +0100, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 09:48 AM, Marina wrote:

The moderator in charge could do nothing about the nessage because, apparently, it had been claimed by me.
Well, that's different from claimed pending members. The claiming doesn't prevent any other mod from acting on the member. It's just informative. So either claimed messages are different, or the other mod misunderstood. I don't know.

I assumed that it explicitly prevented another moderator taking action on it. Is "just informative" sufficient?

Malcolm.

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moderated Re: Log the claiming of a pending member by a mod #suggestion #done

Malcolm Austen
 

On Thu, 06 May 2021 22:27:20 +0100, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 01:01 PM, Malcolm Austen wrote:
by accidentally clicking on [Edit]
But even to do that, you would be in the pending message list and the message would be marked as already claimed. Right?

No, I'm talking about the situation in which an unclaimed message might be claimed by mistake and can not tyen be unclaimed.

In any case, maybe claiming a message should be changed to the same mechanism as for claiming a pending member, namely, you affirmatively click the claim button.

As I have said, I have requested an explicit [Claim] button for messages rather than having to do it as a side-effect of an edit.

Malcolm.

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moderated Re: Log the claiming of a pending member by a mod #suggestion #done

 

Wait, you’re against the feature? I’m just saying that adding a log entry is useful (although not strictly necessary) information, and as with many other logged actions whose information can be also found in other places, would be more consistent if logged too. 


On May 7, 2021, at 10:29 AM, J_Catlady via groups.io <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

Exactly.


On May 7, 2021, at 10:20 AM, Chris Jones via groups.io <chrisjones12@...> wrote:

On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 07:05 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
How could you inadvertently claim a pending message? Can’t you only claim via the website, where the message would be marked as claimed?
I have been watching this topic from the sidelines...  until now. As with Claiming a Message a Pending member can only be Claimed via the website, at which point it is badged accordingly, also indicating who claimed it.

While not opposing the suggestion that a claiming action should be a recorded Activity I would point out that who claimed which Pending Member is most easily found from the Pending Members list; more easily in fact that having to filter the Activity log. Just go the the Pending members list and all current "claims" are visible at the same time.

Chris

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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Log the claiming of a pending member by a mod #suggestion #done

 

Exactly.


On May 7, 2021, at 10:20 AM, Chris Jones via groups.io <chrisjones12@...> wrote:

On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 07:05 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
How could you inadvertently claim a pending message? Can’t you only claim via the website, where the message would be marked as claimed?
I have been watching this topic from the sidelines...  until now. As with Claiming a Message a Pending member can only be Claimed via the website, at which point it is badged accordingly, also indicating who claimed it.

While not opposing the suggestion that a claiming action should be a recorded Activity I would point out that who claimed which Pending Member is most easily found from the Pending Members list; more easily in fact that having to filter the Activity log. Just go the the Pending members list and all current "claims" are visible at the same time.

Chris

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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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moderated Re: Log the claiming of a pending member by a mod #suggestion #done

Chris Jones
 

On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 07:05 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
How could you inadvertently claim a pending message? Can’t you only claim via the website, where the message would be marked as claimed?
I have been watching this topic from the sidelines...  until now. As with Claiming a Message a Pending member can only be Claimed via the website, at which point it is badged accordingly, also indicating who claimed it.

While not opposing the suggestion that a claiming action should be a recorded Activity I would point out that who claimed which Pending Member is most easily found from the Pending Members list; more easily in fact that having to filter the Activity log. Just go the the Pending members list and all current "claims" are visible at the same time.

Chris


moderated Re: Log the claiming of a pending member by a mod #suggestion #done

 

On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 09:48 AM, Marina wrote:
Beta is not for lenghty discussions
Haha! That's a good one. ;)

The moderator in charge could do nothing about the nessage because, apparently, it had been claimed by me.
Well, that's different from claimed pending members. The claiming doesn't prevent any other mod from acting on the member. It's just informative. So either claimed messages are different, or the other mod misunderstood. I don't know.

In any case, I don't see how logging the claiming does anything to solve this problem, although, as I said, I think it might be useful for other reasons.


 
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moderated Re: Log the claiming of a pending member by a mod #suggestion #done

Marina
 

J_Catlady:
How could you inadvertently claim a pending message?
I didn't go into detail because I know that Beta is not for lenghty discussions.
Some days ago, I checked (opened) a pending message via web. I though about correcting it, then I changed my mind because it was not my turn to moderate the group and I left it there.
The moderator in charge could do nothing about the nessage because, apparently, it had been claimed by me.
I didn't remember claiming it, so I checked my activity and the group activity, but I found out that claiming is not logged.

Malcom's explanation about the [Edit] + [Cancel] thing has shed some light on the problem, though.

Marina


moderated Enable and Disable Notifications options visible at the same time #bug

Andy Wedge
 

Hi Mark,

I've raised issues previously about browser notifications and I've been testing with different browsers on my laptop and mobile.  I turned on notifications for the default Samsung Internet browser on my phone but when I went to turn them off I noticed the Enable and Disable options are both visible at the same time which doesn't make sense. The default Samsung Internet browser is listed as Android Chrome:



I haven't tried disabling it yet in order to leave evidence for any investigation. 

Regards
Andy


moderated Re: Log the claiming of a pending member by a mod #suggestion #done

 

On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 01:01 PM, Malcolm Austen wrote:
by accidentally clicking on [Edit]
But even to do that, you would be in the pending message list and the message would be marked as already claimed. Right?

In any case, maybe claiming a message should be changed to the same mechanism as for claiming a pending member, namely, you affirmatively click the claim button.
 
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Log the claiming of a pending member by a mod #suggestion #done

Malcolm Austen
 

On Thu, 06 May 2021 19:05:23 +0100, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

How could you inadvertently claim a pending message?

Easily, by accidentally clicking on [Edit]. The way out of the edit is, of course, to click [Cancel] but that leaves the message in a claimed state.

I have already requested a specific [Claim] button in another post ... please?

If [Edit]; [Cancel] continues to claim a pending message, can we also have an [Unclaim] button please?

Malcolm.

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moderated Re: A couple of display inconsistencies in ADMIN options #bug

 

On Sat, May 1, 2021 at 2:04 PM Christos G. Psarras <christos@...> wrote:

There are a couple of display/visual inconsistencies in the Admin menu for Pending Messages and Subgroups.  Clicking on Pending Messages displays the wrong icon in the breadcrumb row (in keeping with the rest of the Admin icon motif) and clicking on Subgroups displays the wrong icon and text ("Members") instead, see attached.
 
These should be fixed.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Log the claiming of a pending member by a mod #suggestion #done

 

How could you inadvertently claim a pending message? Can’t you only claim via the website, where the message would be marked as claimed? Just curious. I like the proposed additional feature too, same as i like my originally proposed feature (logging claiming of pending members), but not for that reason. 


On May 6, 2021, at 10:49 AM, Marina <moderatore@...> wrote:

I was just about to ask for the same feature. After inadvertently claiming a pending message, I checked both my activity log and the group log, but I found out that "Claim" was not listed under the Actions dropdown menu.

Marina 

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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Log the claiming of a pending member by a mod #suggestion #done

Marina
 

I was just about to ask for the same feature. After inadvertently claiming a pending message, I checked both my activity log and the group log, but I found out that "Claim" was not listed under the Actions dropdown menu.

Marina 


moderated Re: Breadcrumb row #bug

 

On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 6:08 AM Andy Wedge <andy_wedge@...> wrote:
Further suggestions relating to the breadcrumb in the calendar:

  • If you navigate away from the current month and display some event details, the Calendar link in the breadcrumb contains a calstart parameter so clicking it will take you back to display the month that the event is in. If you edit the event though, the calendar link in the breadcrumb does not contain the calstart parameter so clicking it takes you back to the current month. Can we include the calstart parameter in the breadcrumb link when editing an event?
  • When viewing responses for an RSVP event, the calendar and event title are removed from the breadcrumb leaving just a link back to the homepage of the group plus the calendar icon & 'Event Responses' text. When viewing responses, can we linkify the event name and add the icon & 'Event Responses' text as the last element of the breadcrumb?
I've made these fixes.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Breadcrumb row #bug

Andy Wedge
 

On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 06:38 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
 
  • On the Calendar, when displaying event details, the breadcrumb could be expanded to include the event name and include a clickable link to return to the previous calendar view.
Done. 
Further suggestions relating to the breadcrumb in the calendar:

  • If you navigate away from the current month and display some event details, the Calendar link in the breadcrumb contains a calstart parameter so clicking it will take you back to display the month that the event is in. If you edit the event though, the calendar link in the breadcrumb does not contain the calstart parameter so clicking it takes you back to the current month. Can we include the calstart parameter in the breadcrumb link when editing an event?
  • When viewing responses for an RSVP event, the calendar and event title are removed from the breadcrumb leaving just a link back to the homepage of the group plus the calendar icon & 'Event Responses' text. When viewing responses, can we linkify the event name and add the icon & 'Event Responses' text as the last element of the breadcrumb?

Thanks
Andy


moderated Re: Problem with Databases #bug

Pamela Tatt
 

Thank you very much :)

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