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moderated Re: Log the claiming of a pending member by a mod #suggestion #done

Marina
 

I was just about to ask for the same feature. After inadvertently claiming a pending message, I checked both my activity log and the group log, but I found out that "Claim" was not listed under the Actions dropdown menu.

Marina 


moderated Re: Breadcrumb row #bug

 

On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 6:08 AM Andy Wedge <andy_wedge@...> wrote:
Further suggestions relating to the breadcrumb in the calendar:

  • If you navigate away from the current month and display some event details, the Calendar link in the breadcrumb contains a calstart parameter so clicking it will take you back to display the month that the event is in. If you edit the event though, the calendar link in the breadcrumb does not contain the calstart parameter so clicking it takes you back to the current month. Can we include the calstart parameter in the breadcrumb link when editing an event?
  • When viewing responses for an RSVP event, the calendar and event title are removed from the breadcrumb leaving just a link back to the homepage of the group plus the calendar icon & 'Event Responses' text. When viewing responses, can we linkify the event name and add the icon & 'Event Responses' text as the last element of the breadcrumb?
I've made these fixes.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Breadcrumb row #bug

Andy Wedge
 

On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 06:38 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
 
  • On the Calendar, when displaying event details, the breadcrumb could be expanded to include the event name and include a clickable link to return to the previous calendar view.
Done. 
Further suggestions relating to the breadcrumb in the calendar:

  • If you navigate away from the current month and display some event details, the Calendar link in the breadcrumb contains a calstart parameter so clicking it will take you back to display the month that the event is in. If you edit the event though, the calendar link in the breadcrumb does not contain the calstart parameter so clicking it takes you back to the current month. Can we include the calstart parameter in the breadcrumb link when editing an event?
  • When viewing responses for an RSVP event, the calendar and event title are removed from the breadcrumb leaving just a link back to the homepage of the group plus the calendar icon & 'Event Responses' text. When viewing responses, can we linkify the event name and add the icon & 'Event Responses' text as the last element of the breadcrumb?

Thanks
Andy


moderated Re: Problem with Databases #bug

Pamela Tatt
 

Thank you very much :)


moderated Re: Breadcrumb row #bug

Judy F.
 

Thanks so much Mark.  It definitely makes life easier. 
Judy F.
SW Florida



On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 01:10 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Hi All,
 
I've fixed the link in the album breadcrumb, and I've made changes based on Andy's suggestions for the Topics/Messages/Message pages.
 
Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Log the claiming of a pending member by a mod #suggestion #done

 

That's a great idea as it can also help provide the group moderator pool's trends & metrics to the owner.

I guess we should also add the logging of claiming a pending message to the request.

Cheers,
Christos


moderated Re: Problem with Databases #bug

 

On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 1:49 PM Pamela Tatt <knittingpam@...> wrote:
Hi Mark I am suddenly not able to view all of the entries in a database.
On the list of databases we have 24 and they are all visible on the page when you click on Databases.

When I open one of those Databases with more than 20 lines I can only access the first 20.  I dont get the option to go to the next page.  The only way I can view the whole database is to click on Add Row then on Cancel and only after that do all of the entries appear on my screen.

This should be fixed now.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Problem with Databases #bug

Pamela Tatt
 

Hi Mark I am suddenly not able to view all of the entries in a database.
On the list of databases we have 24 and they are all visible on the page when you click on Databases.

When I open one of those Databases with more than 20 lines I can only access the first 20.  I dont get the option to go to the next page.  The only way I can view the whole database is to click on Add Row then on Cancel and only after that do all of the entries appear on my screen.

This has only happened in the past few days.  Prior to this I was able to access all information on both the main Databases page and the individual databases.  I have checked with my group members and they are not having the same problem.  Very strange!!!

Can you shed any light on this for me?

knit4charities.groups.io

Kind regards,
Pamela


moderated Re: Low quality images #misc

 

On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 10:23 AM David Bryant <david@...> wrote:
I have reported this as a bug at the KDE bugzilla site (https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=435776). But since it only happens with messages originating from groups.io, I'm bringing it up here.


When images need to be resized, we do so using ImageMagick. Nothing special.

Mark 


moderated Re: Breadcrumb row #bug

 

Hi All,

I've spent some more time working on the breadcrumb navigation and fixing some other app-related issues.

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 11:43 AM Andy Wedge <andy_wedge@...> wrote:

Some additional suggestions:
  • From the messages screen, selecting Polls from the Messages/Topics/Expanded/Polls buttons shows the Polls icon in the breadcrumb. Selecting a poll from the list causes the breadcrumb link to change to Messages meaning you cannot use the breadcrumb to get back to the list of Polls.
I'm not sure what the right answer is. There are two ways to view a poll, either via the Polls page or via the Messages/Topics nav path. What I've read about breadcrumbs and UI says that when you have multiple paths, only display one (the canonical one) in the breadcrumb.
 
  • On the Calendar, when displaying event details, the breadcrumb could be expanded to include the event name and include a clickable link to return to the previous calendar view.
Done. 
  • From the directory, when selecting a member's entry, the breadcrumb could be expanded to include the member name and a clickable link to return to the Directory.

Done as well.

Also, the issues with the group member page and the header/footer scrolling in the app should be fixed now.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Search bar reformatting #update

Duane
 

On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 11:08 AM, KWKloeber wrote:
That icon is **always** found at the right end of a search box
Not necessarily.  I'm on 3 other sites that use the icon to open a search box, so GIO isn't the only one doing it.

Duane


moderated Re: Search bar reformatting #update

KWKloeber
 

>>> On mobile, you now have to tap the search icon (the little magnifying glass).<<<


While no deal breaker a better representation might be a link button, not the spy glass icon. That icon is **always** found at the right end of a search box, and not to home-into in order to jump to a search page.  Yesterday I tried tapping several times to the left trying to land in some imaginary box to enter a search string.  I even put a new battery in my finger, thinking that might be the issue. 
I understand the love of reducing everything possible to icons, but then so could the others be that are on the page.  Why not?  Maybe to avoid confusion - which is what this generated.  I don’t believe I’m inherently dumber than most users (no poll necessary, as I did figure it out) but why impose “ahh ha” moments on old-dogs who may not he icon savvy.)
I don’t pretend to understand what’s inherently wrong with “words” and why it’s location needs to be there, but graying into the line to the left is confusing.  It might be less so as  a stand-apart icon box to differentiate that to the left is not a search box. 

As a suggestion, possibly a heads up why different changes are necessary would connect up the logic to those who don’t understand the *whys* and *wherefores*?


TY & 🖖 

Ken K


moderated Log the claiming of a pending member by a mod #suggestion #done

 

It would be helpful if the claiming of a pending member by a mod were logged, making this information more easily available to other mods.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Low quality images #misc

Derek Milliner
 

At a guess, I'd say that the PNG image has an alpha channel that KMail's mishandling when it's displaying an inline image? Try taking a look in something like GIMP...


moderated Re: Low quality images #misc

 

On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 05:00 PM, Andy wrote:
David,

It is interesting that the two example files you provide have nearly the same filesize.  But they also include different portions of screen capture, so it's not a fair comparison.  You should also note that the first picture has some text at the top, which is crystal clear and only the stuff below it is washed out -- so maybe the lost quality happened when the file was created (with annotated text), before sending it to a groups.io group.
Your vision is good. But I guess I didn't explain myself clearly.
 
The first image is a picture of the message as it is displayed in KMail's "message preview pane" when I ask KMail to show me the formatted HTML message. The text portions of the message are displayed correctly. But the image following the text is all washed out.

I'm not sure If you have studied the structure of an HTML-encoded email message very closely, or not, Andy. Such a message usually consists of several parts.
  • The message headers
  • The plain text version of the message
  • The message in HTML -- <head>(some stuff)</head><body>(some other stuff)</body>, etc. Not quite a web page, but close.
  • One or more embedded image files. Images may be attached, or, more frequently, defined as a ref="http://..." item on a remote server somewhere.
Here's a screenshot illustrating the structure of today's "Digest" as I received it from the beta group. The message headers are in the first "body part", marked with a folder icon.


KMail lets me select any segment of the message and display only that single piece. That's how I created the second screenshot in my original message. Both screenshots were taken from the same program, KMail. In the first one I told KMail to display both text and and image data. In the second one I just asked to see the image file. My question (probably for Mark) is if there is something unusual about the image files sent out by groups.io, because this doesn't happen with messages I receive from other web sites.
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David Bryant
Canyon Lake, Texas
https://t-vog.groups.io/g/main    https://davidcbryant.net


moderated Re: Low quality images #misc

Andy
 

David,

It is interesting that the two example files you provide have nearly the same filesize.  But they also include different portions of screen capture, so it's not a fair comparison.  You should also note that the first picture has some text at the top, which is crystal clear and only the stuff below it is washed out -- so maybe the lost quality happened when the file was created (with annotated text), before sending it to a groups.io group.

Andy


moderated Low quality images #misc

 

I have reported this as a bug at the KDE bugzilla site (https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=435776). But since it only happens with messages originating from groups.io, I'm bringing it up here.

I use POP3 and KMail2 to process almost all of my email. I have a problem with image quality on messages that originate at the groups.io web site. Here is an example screenshot.



As you can see, the image is all washed out, and the photographed text is hard to read. But it's a rendering problem, and not an image quality problem per se. Here's a screenshot of the same image file, also rendered by KMail. (I selected just the image attachment for display by KMail to make this screenshot.)



Clearly the bug is somewhere in KMail. But it's only triggered by messages that came from grroups.io, so far as I can tell. Is there anything peculiar about the headers that groups.io inserts in outgoing messages that could possibly account for this? Something else about groups.io messages that might affect image quality? Weird metadata in the image file, or something like that?

Any suggestions will be appreciated, and gratefully accepted.
--
David Bryant
Canyon Lake, Texas
https://t-vog.groups.io/g/main    https://davidcbryant.net


moderated Re: Breadcrumb row #bug

Bob Morley
 

On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 03:41 AM, Andy Wedge wrote:
The link colour is a feature if your browser rather than Groups.io and based upon whether or not a particular link is in your browser history to determine if it has previously been visited. The difference in the links you listed and the "sparse" nature of a link for an individual message navigated to by the next/previous arrow icons has always been there as far as I recall.  The "sparse" link format is also used in email footers where it says "View/Reply Online" etc.

Andy
Understood that this is a browser action. What I see in both Chrome and MS Edge is that now they are not seeing the full and sparse links as the same page. This was working up until yesterday and is now no longer working for me.

I assume that others are seeing this as well.

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Gerald


moderated Re: Search bar reformatting #update

Bruce Bowman
 

On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 12:11 AM, Linda Perry wrote:
I can't find the search bar for message.  I see you pushed it to the breadcrumb row but I don't know where that is either. 
On mobile, you now have to tap the search icon (the little magnifying glass).

Regards,
Bruce


moderated Re: Search bar reformatting #update

Andy Wedge
 

On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 05:11 AM, Linda Perry wrote:
I can't find the search bar for message.  I see you pushed it to the breadcrumb row but I don't know where that is either.   Why is the message box not on top front and center like it has been and what is a breadcrumb row?
The search bar has moved to the top right corner of the Groups.io window, just below your name.

The breadcrumb is a series of links across the top of the page which show the route taken to get to your current display and provide quick navigation links to go back to a previous point:



See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breadcrumb_navigation

As has been pointed out by J (in #29304), after an initial search, the search box actually moves back to its original location which seems weird as it introduces a lack of consistency.

Andy

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