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Re: better member list filtering #suggestion

Bruce Bowman
 

Mark -- After applying the member list filter, the legend at the bottom of the page says "-1 checked," and remains one off until I click "Uncheck all."

I don't know how this may affect any subsequent activity performed using the Actions menu.

FYI,
Bruce


moderated Re: Strange new "Members" selections #bug

 

Yes, please remove it! I don’t want to see pending members every time I view the members list. I only look at pending members when I’m going to act on them in some way, and that’s not very often, since I wait for their pending notice response to come in, which usually takes at least a few days anyway. I view (or need/want to view) the full members list an order of magnitude more often than pending.


On Apr 9, 2021, at 10:30 AM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:


On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 4:30 AM Chris Jones via groups.io <chrisjones12=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:
On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 12:23 PM, David Bryant wrote:
In my experience, that has always been the case. If I had a pending membership application, only the pending memberships showed up when I clicked "Members" on the left, and I had to select "Members" from the drop down list
Agreed; this "phenomenon" has always been the case, at least since I came on to Groups.io several years ago.

It was coded this way because I thought it'd be a 'shortcut' for moderators. If you have a pending member, you'd want to view it when going to the members page. If it causes too much confusion, I can easily remove this behavior.

Thanks,
Mark 

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J

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moderated Re: #bug Directory contents #bug

Bruce Bowman
 

On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 12:52 PM, Peter Rawbone wrote:
The experts in the GMF have suggested I raise this here as it could be a bug.
Duane previously noted that the middle entry in the first row seems to be higher than those on either side.

Regards,
Bruce


moderated Re: #bug Directory contents #bug

Duane
 

On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 11:52 AM, Peter Rawbone wrote:
Any ideas anybody?
As I mentioned on GMF: "Looking closely at your image, it appears that the box for the second person (Alcock-Ferg...) is a tiny bit taller than the rest, so creating the blanks.  (This used to happen in the photos area.) "

Duane


moderated Re: Strange new "Members" selections #bug

 

On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 4:30 AM Chris Jones via groups.io <chrisjones12=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:
On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 12:23 PM, David Bryant wrote:
In my experience, that has always been the case. If I had a pending membership application, only the pending memberships showed up when I clicked "Members" on the left, and I had to select "Members" from the drop down list
Agreed; this "phenomenon" has always been the case, at least since I came on to Groups.io several years ago.

It was coded this way because I thought it'd be a 'shortcut' for moderators. If you have a pending member, you'd want to view it when going to the members page. If it causes too much confusion, I can easily remove this behavior.

Thanks,
Mark 


Re: better member list filtering #suggestion

 

On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 5:59 PM Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 07:44 PM, coprosowner wrote:
One small bug maybe.  I selected 4 members who needed a bounce probe.  It shows the number 24 (lower left).
Checking on this, I also saw some strange numbers.  Page shows 30, select all box shows 52.  When I first started the test, selecting the first 8 gave a 13 at the bottom, but when I tried again later, it was correct.  Definitely some gremlins running loose.

This bug has been fixed.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: #bug Directory contents #bug

Andy
 

Hmm, I don't see that.  The two blank spaces are at the bottom (since my preference is to view 100 entries at once and 99 is a multiple of 3).

But frankly, I think that the Directory is a useless "feature".  (Does anyone else think it is useful?)

Andy


Re: better member list filtering #suggestion

 

On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 4:10 AM Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
Found another little bug this morning.  Selecting "Bouncing" also automatically selects NC, but the NC members aren't included on the results page.  If you then go back into the filter box and don't change anything (untick NC), but do click Apply, it then includes NC results.

This has been fixed.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated #bug Directory contents #bug

Peter Rawbone
 

Looking at the Directory (as an Owner) there is a space in the second row that seems odd.  The experts in the GMF have suggested I raise this here as it could be a bug.



Any ideas anybody?
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Peter


Re: better member list filtering #suggestion

Duane
 

On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 08:43 AM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
Unfortunately, the Past Members list is only available for paid groups.
Whereas the Banned list is available on all groups.

Duane


Re: better member list filtering #suggestion

Andy Wedge
 

On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 02:43 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

I think a Banned checkbox would be more applicable to filter options on the Past member's list.
Unfortunately, the Past Members list is only available for paid groups.
Hmm. My main focus and testing to date has been on my premium group but I've just done some tests on my freebie group and see what you mean.

Given that the list of checkbox options is context sensitive already based upon member permissions, then not displaying the Banned checkbox on premium groups would seem to make sense as anyone who has been banned, unbanned, removed or left etc. appears on the Past members list.

Andy


Re: better member list filtering #suggestion

Chris Jones
 

On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 02:46 PM, Anita L wrote:
I see the filler and boxes but when you check it and apply
where does it go?

What you mean by "where does it go?"

I am trying to have a way to check for members who are bouncing.
I really liked it the way it was.
Maybe can you do a tab for bouncing?

Er... there is one there, third from the top.

Chris


Re: better member list filtering #suggestion

 

Ok! I've figured this whole deal out and it's fabulous! Let me explain.

Formerly, there was a single dropdown for the various categories of members (members, pending, bouncing, etc.). Now, there are two boxes: the one called "members" which *looks* the same as before on the outside but is no longer a dropdown. Clicking on that gives you the full membership list (current members). The other categories - bouncing, pending, etc. - that were formerly in that dropdown have been greatly added to and been moved to the light-blue thingy. If you click on that, you can filter by all sorts of criteria that weren't there before.

So all that's really happened (aside for the possible bug mentioned by Andy) is that the filtering criteria have been greatly added to but moved to a separate location, next door to the full member list, which is the former dark-blue box.

And yes, guys, the answer to my question "am I totally losing" it is yes. I somehow totally forgot, after 6+ years of being here, that clicking on "Members" on the left first takes you to the pending members. Nothing in that part has changed.
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J

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moderated Re: Search box for Activity log won't clear #bug

Andy Wedge
 

On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 01:26 PM, Andy wrote:
Duane says that it's always been like that.

Just the same, I would call it a bug because it isn't right.  If I do a search with an empty search field, it should search with that criterion
The search field on the member list does something similar. If you try and blank that out, it uses the previous search criteria.

Andy


Re: better member list filtering #suggestion

Anita L
 

I dont understand how this works?
I see the filler and boxes but when you check it and apply
where does it go?
I am trying to have a way to check for members who are bouncing.
I really liked it the way it was.
Maybe can you do a tab for bouncing?

Thanks

Anita


Re: better member list filtering #suggestion

Bruce Bowman
 

On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 09:27 AM, Andy Wedge wrote:
Banning a member removes them from the group according to the Owner's Manual...
More accurately, banning an address keeps it from joining. You can ban addresses that are not current members.

...so I don't think it makes sense to have a checkbox option for banned members as they should never appear on the member list.
With the pull-down menu now gone, the filter list seems as good as anything.

I think a Banned checkbox would be more applicable to filter options on the Past member's list.
Unfortunately, the Past Members list is only available for paid groups. We'd need some other way to do this.

Regards,
Bruce


Re: better member list filtering #suggestion

Chris Jones
 

On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 02:27 PM, Andy Wedge wrote:
I don't think it makes sense to have a checkbox option for banned members as they should never appear on the member list.
Yes it does make sense; while they remain "banned members" they are prevented from attempting to rejoin using the same email address. As they don't enter the calculation for charging their presence as notional members does no harm at all.

Chris


Re: better member list filtering #suggestion

Andy Wedge
 

Banning a member removes them from the group according to the Owner's Manual so I don't think it makes sense to have a checkbox option for banned members as they should never appear on the member list.

I think a Banned checkbox would be more applicable to filter options on the Past member's list.

Andy


moderated Re: Search box for Activity log won't clear #bug

Andy
 

Duane says that it's always been like that.

Just the same, I would call it a bug because it isn't right.  If I do a search with an empty search field, it should search with that criterion and not something else that isn't there.

Andy


moderated Re: Strange new "Members" selections #bug

Chris Jones
 

On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 12:23 PM, David Bryant wrote:
In my experience, that has always been the case. If I had a pending membership application, only the pending memberships showed up when I clicked "Members" on the left, and I had to select "Members" from the drop down list
Agreed; this "phenomenon" has always been the case, at least since I came on to Groups.io several years ago.

Chris

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