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moderated Re: New group message and chat message notifications #update

Andy Wedge
 

On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 11:03 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
I will not turn on the sending of these notifications until Monday, March 29th, which will give people time to uncheck the boxes if they wish.
That could be an awful lot of boxes to uncheck for those who are subscribed to lots of (sub)groups.  Wouldn't it be better to opt-in rather than have to opt-out.

Andy


moderated Re: New group message and chat message notifications #update

 

I am really concerned about this, in that case. Will members now receive notifications any time any member posts to their group? Will there be a way, and preferably an easy way, for mods to turn off the default? If not, can this please not be the default?


On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 8:14 AM Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 10:09 AM, J_Catlady wrote:
These are strictly mod notifications, right?
No, they're shown in the new panel "Member Notifications" on each group Subscription.

Duane


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J

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moderated Re: New group message and chat message notifications #update

Duane
 

On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 10:09 AM, J_Catlady wrote:
These are strictly mod notifications, right?
No, they're shown in the new panel "Member Notifications" on each group Subscription.

Duane


moderated Re: New group message and chat message notifications #update

 

I want to make sure I understand this. These are strictly mod notifications, right?
Thanks.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Edit Message followed by Save and Send to Group #bug

Duane
 

On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 05:29 PM, Malcolm Austen wrote:
When the poster edits and then clicks Save and Send to Group
 
1. The message is sent out without regard to any hashtag muting, everyone receives it. 
(I have not tested whether topic muting is also bypassed.)
I'm not sure that I'd consider this a bug.  As an example:

I send a message to the group with hashtag #meeting that says "The meeting will be Tuesday at 2 pm."  Member Joe realizes he can't be there at that time, so mutes the hashtag and/or topic.  I later decide to change the meeting to Wednesday at 4 pm, so I edit the message.  This is where I think the message should be sent to everyone.  Joe may be able to go to a meeting at that time, but wouldn't know it had been changed if the edited message isn't sent to him.  On the other hand, if the edited message only has to do with details, Joe doesn't need to be notified since he can't go anyway.  Unfortunately, I can see that there are situations where the edit needs to be sent to everyone, as well as those when it doesn't.  I can't think of a solution for this.

Duane


moderated Re: Change of email address confirmation email not being sent #bug

Andy Wedge
 

On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 01:59 PM, Andy Wedge wrote:
it seems that confirmation emails are not being sent to the 'new' account when an email address is changed.
Scratch that. It was just very slow per my post on GMF.

Andy


moderated Change of email address confirmation email not being sent #bug

Andy Wedge
 

Hi Mark,

following a report on GMF and a bit of testing, it seems that confirmation emails are not being sent to the 'new' account when an email address is changed.

Regards
Andy


moderated Re: Edit Message followed by Save and Send to Group #bug

Andy Wedge
 

On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 10:29 PM, Malcolm Austen wrote:
When the poster edits and then clicks Save and Send to Group
Mark,

FYI, this is a follow up from a topic on GMF.

Andy


moderated Re: New group message and chat message notifications #update

 

On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 4:41 PM Robert Kingett <kingettr@...> wrote:

Could someone send me the app store link? Or the Test Flight link?


Please subscribe to the app subgroup, and when the app is ready, I'll post a link there.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: New group message and chat message notifications #update

 

Could someone send me the app store link? Or the Test Flight link?


moderated New group message and chat message notifications #update

 

Hi All,

As part of the work on the app, I've added two additional notifications, one for when messages are sent to the group and one for when messages are sent to a chat you're subscribed to. They are listed in your Subscription page, under Member Notifications. They are checked by default.

Since the app is not currently generally available yet, the only way you'd see these notifications is if you've got notifications enabled in your web browser (under Account -> Notifications). Which is a small percentage of the Groups.io population. That said, I will not turn on the sending of these notifications until Monday, March 29th, which will give people time to uncheck the boxes if they wish. Again, even if the boxes are checked, and it's after Monday, you'll never see a notification unless you've configured your browser to accept them.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Mark


moderated Re: Some poll suggestions #suggestion

Andy Wedge
 

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 03:46 PM, Samuel Murrayy wrote:
2. For moderators, have an option to export the poll results as a CSV or Excel file.  Yes, I know one can select & copy/paste, but the result isn't tidy.
Another nudge for Samuel's suggestions, especially number 2 - export the results.

Andy


moderated Edit Message followed by Save and Send to Group #bug

Malcolm Austen
 

This has arisen in a free group where a poster has edited their own message. I guess it would apply if a moderator did the edit but have not tested that scenario.

When the poster edits and then clicks Save and Send to Group

1. The message is sent out without regard to any hashtag muting, everyone receives it. 
(I have not tested whether topic muting is also bypassed.)

2. The email threading is incorrect, the new message has a new Message-ID and no reference to the old one. For example ...
edit & send:
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2021 00:11:58 -0700
Message-ID: <Groupsio.1.zEAl.1616569918707413211.qNFq@groups.io>
original:
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2021 00:11:58 -0700
Message-ID: <zEAl.1616569918707413211.qNFq@groups.io>

Malcolm.

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Malcolm Austen <malcolm.austen@...>


moderated Re: Hide Dutch quote

Glenn Glazer
 

On 03/24/2021 10:43, ro-esp wrote:
Benoit, personne ici ne comprend qu'est-ce que tu essais dire. Nous ne sommes pas des ordinateurs, nous sommes des êtres humaines, donc parle vers nous come a des êtres humaines.

Si je dois deviner, je pense que tu plains contre le TOFU, et que ta problème serait solue quand tes groupes interdisaient le TOFU.

regarder ici: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOFU_(Usenet_et_Internet)


                                groetjes/ĝis, Ronaldo


フランス語が分からない.

じゃあね,

峡谷

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#calcare
PG&E Delenda Est


moderated Re: Hide Dutch quote

Andy Wedge
 

On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 05:43 PM, ro-esp wrote:
Benoit, personne ici ne comprend qu'est-ce que tu essais dire

(Translation: Benoit, no one here understands what you are trying to say.)
It's just a request to recognise Dutch reply prefixes.

Andy


moderated Re: Hide Dutch quote

ro-esp
 

Benoit, personne ici ne comprend qu'est-ce que tu essais dire. Nous ne sommes pas des ordinateurs, nous sommes des êtres humaines, donc parle vers nous come a des êtres humaines.

Si je dois deviner, je pense que tu plains contre le TOFU, et que ta problème serait solue quand tes groupes interdisaient le TOFU.

regarder ici: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOFU_(Usenet_et_Internet)


groetjes/ĝis, Ronaldo


moderated Re: How to fix out-of-bounds subscriptions #misc

 

Hi All,

I've changed all subscriptions that had an email delivery of `No Email` or `Special Notices Only` and `Message Selection` other than `All` so that `Message Selection` was set to `All`. That seemed to be the path of least surprise, in that it will lead to no change in email delivery behavior.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: A couple more areas missed with the new subscription checks #bug

 

On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 5:37 PM Christos G. Psarras <christos@...> wrote:

I just found out that there are two (or three?) more places where the new NoEmail & SpecialNotice assignment needs to also reset the FO settings, as they still allow you to "set" your subscription to either NoEmail or SpecialNotice while keeping the FO settings you had before.

A. If one has a group set to Indiv/digests/summary + FO(...), the "Your Groups" page (groups.io/groups) allows you to select one or more groups and set them to either NoEmail or SpecialNotice, and it will do so but it also keeps the previously-selected FO settings.

B. Same in the Unsubscribe page (from email message link, ../<groupname>/leave/.../.../.../xyzzy) or Sub settings page -> Leave group -> "Verify Leave" dialog, it gives you the option to "Switch to Special Notices", which also resets you to Special Notices but it also keeps the FO settings you had before.

These two cases have been fixed.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Year is left out of the date after message search #bug

 

Yep, it works correctly! All apologies! My sense of time is all screwed up lately. I thought the posts in question had to be from last year. Turns out they were from *this* year. :-)
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Year is left out of the date after message search #bug

Andy Wedge
 

On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 03:55 AM, J_Catlady wrote:
if they are from a year prior to 2021, are lacking the year in the date. They just say, e.g., "Jan 15" even if the date was Jan 15, 2020.
It all looks good here:




Andy

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