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moderated Images in RSVP event descriptions and Note to Send Attendee not displayed correctly when viewed in Gmail web UI and Gmail app #bug

Andy Wedge
 

Hi Mark,

Images included in event descriptions and 'Note to Send Attendee' are not displayed correctly when sent to Gmail accounts and viewed through the Gmail web UI and Gmail mobile app (Gmail settings are set to show images).  This is an example of an image in the Note to Send Attendee section when viewed using the Gmail mobile app:



If the same message is viewed in Outlook, I see this:






There appears to be something in the format of the outbound message from Groups.io that the Gmail web UI and Gmail app don't like.  The same images sent in messages to my Gmail account outside Groups.io display OK.

Regards
Andy


moderated RSVP event responders not updated correctly when members leave a group #bug

Andy Wedge
 

Hi Mark,

When someone responds to an RSVP event they appear in the list of responders. However, if they subsequently leave the group, they are not removed from the list (in Gallery view, a placeholder is displayed instead of their profile picture). If you try to send a message to responders, they are included in the count of members it says the message will be sent to, but nothing is actually sent to them,

If members are removed from any events they have a space on when leaving a group, and email notices are sent for any change of status (re my previous message on this), it would help avoid confusion amongst attendees and event organisers.

Thanks
Andy


moderated Hashtag settings are broken #bug

Bruce Bowman
 

Mark -- Something has recently broken hashtag settings that used to work.

  • If you set a hashtag to "reply only to sender," and subsequently use it, no reply-to field is put in the message header of outgoing emails.
  • If you set Hashtag Permissions to "Messages can only be tagged with existing hashtags, others are bounced," incoming emails with new hashtags get forwarded to the group anyway, and the new hashtag is added to the hashtag list.
This was reported by a user in GMF and subsequently confirmed in my test group. I have not thoroughly tested other such settings to see if they may also be malfunctioning.

Regards,
Bruce


moderated Re: Member receiving msgs from non-subscribed groups #bug

Andy
 

re: "I had a few (maybe 5 or 6) non-members, people who had never heard of Groups.io, asking me as group owner to cease sending them messages ..."

We get a lot of these requests.  In nearly every case they are not subscribed, and never were, and they provide no evidence that they are.  We interpret their requests as trolling, but I don't know for what reason.  We do not reply (unless it sounds real).  Nobody has ever asked a second time.

I think most came from AOL or Yahoo addresses.

Andy



moderated Re: Minor display bug in SEARCH-Members screens when editing a member #bug

 

On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 01:49 PM, Christos G. Psarras wrote:
When one is in the Admin-Members screen and enters a search term and go into "Search" mode, after they select a member and edit their membership settings, the member list contents won't refresh when they are returned back to the search results member list
UPDATE: The same thing happens when one has a search term and removes a member, the list doesn't refresh and the removed member still shows in the list, one has to F5 to get it to refresh.
 
Cheers,
Christos


moderated Re: #suggestion Add Group membership expiration #suggestion

 

On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 04:04 AM, Andy Wedge wrote:
A group setting to determine if membership is managed by expiry date
I think that would be a necessity. Expiration would have to be a group option, not just apply to all groups. I'd consider using it, assuming there were adequate controls, but more likely would not. 
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Setting mod notifications handy shortcut #suggestion

 

Hi Mark,

Changing all of the mod notifications to a different setting can be cumbersome, due to them being dropdowns and just the number of them, there's a total of 22 mouse clicks, along with scrolling.   It would be handy if there was a shortcut that would set all of the notifications at once to one of the available settings, as the process would now go down to 2 clicks.

A quick and simple way to achieve this would be to use a button menu or a dropdown that would set all the settings at once, something similar to the attached.  In the dropdown variation, "Reset All to:" would be just a default display placeholder that does nothing else.

Cheers,
Christos


moderated Re: #suggestion Add Group membership expiration #suggestion

Andy Wedge
 

On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 09:46 PM, Rick N wrote:
This enables admins to set an amount of time that users and service accounts are members of a group. Once the specified time has passed, users will be removed from the group automatically.
I would make use of this on my group if it existed and was relatively simple to manage. Some things to consider may be:

  • A facility to set expiration dates on existing members - editing the membership details of individual members for large groups would not be practical
  • The ability to initially set an expiration date for individual members on the Direct Add feature (as opposed to adding groups of members with the same expiry date)
  • If members join groups by accepting an invite, does the membership period start from the day of the invite or the day of acceptance?
  • The ability to send out reminder messages (a new type of Member Notice?) at different intervals when memberships are about to expire
  • A group setting to determine if membership is managed by expiry date

Regards
Andy


moderated #suggestion Add Group membership expiration #suggestion

Rick N
 

On Google's Workspace updates blog, they recently announced the general availability of group membership expiration.

From their site:

"The Cloud Identity Groups API feature that enables you to set expirations for group memberships is now generally available.

 
 
This enables admins to set an amount of time that users and service accounts are members of a group. Once the specified time has passed, users will be removed from the group automatically. Automatic membership expiration can help reduce the administrative overhead for managing groups, and can help ensure group membership is limited to the members that need access."

I thought this could be a useful feature and bears further discussion.


moderated Re: Member receiving msgs from non-subscribed groups #bug

 

This is extremely concerning and somewhat scary! There is personal stuff being posted in some groups.


On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 9:17 AM sanjay <sanj95033@...> wrote:
We have had a couple of instances lately, as described by Mark Irving. People who have not heard of groups.I’m getting emails. I asked the latest one to contact support@groups.io  Weird. 


--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Member receiving msgs from non-subscribed groups #bug

 

We have had a couple of instances lately, as described by Mark Irving. People who have not heard of groups.I’m getting emails. I asked the latest one to contact support@groups.io  Weird. 


moderated Items per page reverts to Infinite scroll in membership list on mobile device #bug

Andy Wedge
 

Hi Mark,

if my preferences are set to display either 20, 50 or 100 items per page, when I scroll down my membership list I momentarily see the next page options but then the next 'n' items are loaded as though I have Infinite Scroll set.

Regards
Andy


moderated Mobile display menu bar obscures Action button dropdown options #bug

Andy Wedge
 

Hi Mark,

when viewing RSVP responders and trying to use the Action button options on my mobile phone found, I found that the bottom menu bar obscures some of the Action button options. I've tried Firefox and Chrome. In Firefox, the menu bar is not even anchored to the bottom of the screen:




I've seen the menu bar jump around in Firefox mobile for a while but until now, it hasn't stopped me from doing what I needed.  In Chrome, the menu bar is at the bottom of the screen so it covers different Action button options:




Regards
Andy


moderated Buttons not aligned on pending message claim warning pop-up #bug

Andy Wedge
 

Hi Mark,

I went to claim a pending message previously claimed by my co-owner and noticed the No/Yes buttons are not aligned on the confirmation pop-up:



Regards
Andy


moderated Clarify text on RSVP events buttons #suggestion

Andy Wedge
 

Hi Mark,

The text on the RSVP 'Will Attend' and 'Will Not Attend' buttons is confusing once a response has been made and if no guests are allowed:



Use of the word 'Update' in this case makes no sense and causes confusion. The fact that the button is blue shows that it is already the selected option so what are you updating?

If guests are allowed however, it does make more sense as you can change the number:



Can we include the 'Update' prefix only if guests are allowed?

Regards
Andy


moderated French reply to message by email uses preface "Réf", not "Re," creating new topic #bug

Bärbel Stephenson
 

Can we please add "Réf:" (French for Re:) to the list of reply indicators, it is breaking Topics up in one of my groups, one subject line today is "Réf. : Re: Réf. : Re: Réf. : Re: Réf. : Re: R��f. : Re: ".
 
Thank you.
Barbara


moderated Re: Allow images in Member Notices #suggestion

Bruce Bowman
 

On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 05:40 PM, Christos G. Psarras wrote:
What could help reduce the chance of it happening is using group storage in this case, a link from your Files (that's what I did with our groups so this way the graphics could be reused in the wiki -or elsewhere- without the "AddNew" duplication), or, if no Files, sent an email to the group with the graphic, lock the topic, then use the URL groups.io is using for that file, as that won't/shouldn't change since emails went out with it.
Christos -- Using anything on the groups.io site is problematic. To be retrievable even by webmail, the image URL must be visible to the world.

1) Images in the group's Photos section don't have stable URLs, so you can't really use that.
2) If the image was stored in the Files area, the recipient would still have to logged in to gain access to it.
3) Non-members cannot access group content at all, so the image couldn't be used for -- say -- an Invite or Pending Subscription notice.

Still, it would really be nice to be able to include a logo or a screenshot or anything of that nature. In my case, I placed the linked images in a folder on our [separate] public web site. I have to remember why they're there, and be sure not to delete/move/rename them. Even that doesn't work if the person reading the received email doesn't happen to be connected to the internet at the time.

For all these reasons I'd like to be able to just embed the image in the outgoing message.

Regards,
Bruce


moderated Site updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site this week:

February 19th, 2021

  • BUGFIX: Modal buttons on the edit wiki page were the incorrect colors. Discussion.
  • BUGFIX: The RSS feeds for groups without titles now have the title set to the URL of the group.
  • INTERNAL: Some HTML cleanup.

February 18th, 2021

  • BUGFIX: The Subgroups tab under Admin in the group sidebar would not display as active when clicked on.
  • INTERNAL: Second pass at bundling CSS and JS files.
  • BUGFIX: In some cases event times in the Feed view were not displayed in the correct timezone. Also, the user's date formatting was not observed. Discussion.

February 17th, 2021

  • INTERNAL: First pass at bundling CSS and JS files. This will speed up web page rendering but more importantly is needed to support the app.

February 15th, 2021

  • CHANGE: On the edit subscription, group member and group default subscription pages, made it so that incompatible changes to Email Delivery and Message Selection are changed immediately on the page, instead of when the changes are saved. An example: setting Email Delivery to No Email and then Message Selection to Following Only will immediately change the Email Delivery radio button to Individual Messages. Discussion.

Take care everyone.

Mark


moderated Re: Allow images in Member Notices #suggestion

 

>    "Add via URL"/<img src>, same as we currently have in the wiki editor, wouldn't need storage.
>
> That's the work-around that I'm currently using, and it works, if you know html and are willing to edit in source code mode.

Ohh, I learned something new today, didn't realize you could trick it like that.   I now notice the source code button being there in the expanded toolbar, I never bothered to expand it because the image buttons were not there.

 

> If course, if you ever delete or move the image at the source, it leaves a dead link in your Member Notice.

True, diligence would be needed.  What could help reduce the chance of it happening is using group storage in this case, a link from your Files (that's what I did with our groups so this way the graphics could be reused in the wiki -or elsewhere- without the "AddNew" duplication), or, if no Files, sent an email to the group with the graphic, lock the topic, then use the URL groups.io is using for that file, as that won't/shouldn't change since emails went out with it.

Cheers,
Christos


moderated Re: Member receiving msgs from non-subscribed groups #bug

Mark Irving
 

I had a few (maybe 5 or 6) non-members, people who had never heard of Groups.io, asking me as group owner to cease sending them messages, but not recently. I think they were all Y! mail users, and the group member whose messages they were getting was also a Y! mail address. (It might have been another provider, not Y**oo!)

My workround at the time was to apologise, explain, set the innocent group member whose messages were being diverted to "daily summary" rather than individual messages, and send a message to that group member to say what I'd done and why. In each case the complaints then stopped -- and the daily summary meant that if the messages did go outside the group, only their subject lines were revealed, not their contents.

You may or may not find a similar response to be helpful.

 - Mark (no, not the famous one, just another Mark)

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