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moderated Re: Member receiving msgs from non-subscribed groups #bug

 

That’s very weird. I know that sometimes, people forward me emails from other cats groups if they think I can offer insight into the cat’s illness. But I assume that forwarding is not what’s happening in your case.


On Feb 18, 2021, at 4:01 PM, KWKloeber via groups.io <KWKloeber@...> wrote:



A member reports that this week he’s received several emails from groups  to which he’s not subscribed - some containing attachments and URLs (undesirably concerned!)

He trashed most of them but did forward me a few and they are legit groups and the attachments were not nefarious, so it appears it might be just a glitch. 

Is there a systemic bug going on here?


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moderated Member receiving msgs from non-subscribed groups #bug

KWKloeber
 

A member reports that this week he’s received several emails from groups  to which he’s not subscribed - some containing attachments and URLs (undesirably concerned!)

He trashed most of them but did forward me a few and they are legit groups and the attachments were not nefarious, so it appears it might be just a glitch. 

Is there a systemic bug going on here?


moderated Allow images in Member Notices #suggestion

Bruce Bowman
 

it would be handy to be able to put images in Member Notices, as we already can for regular messages.

I have not given thorough consideration as to how to manage the associated storage.

Thanks for your consideration,
Bruce


moderated Re: Activity log date filter Today includes details from previous day #bug

Andy Wedge
 

On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 05:15 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
Just wondering whether your co-owner is in the same time zone as you? Maybe this could be affecting the date.
Yes, we're both in the UK.

Andy


moderated Re: Activity log date filter Today includes details from previous day #bug

 

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 07:57 AM, Andy Wedge wrote:
The search results actually showed an entry from the previous evening when my co-owner removed another member.
Just wondering whether your co-owner is in the same time zone as you? Maybe this could be affecting the date.
 
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moderated Re: #bug event times in /feed are all 8 hours out #bug

Malcolm Austen
 

I have changed a few settings and found it all seems to be good Mark. In the course of my checking, you must have been changing the code because my comments about 'all day' and the date format got fixed in the course of my checks.

I guess you can take a coffee break and move on to the next problem :-)

Thanks, Malcolm.

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On 17/02/2021 22:44:18, Malcolm Austen <malcolm.austen@...> wrote:

Thanks Mark, I will give it a proper look, with some varying settings of time zones, tomorrow.

On a very quick look, it seems good. I have two comments though ...

1. for 'all day' events, you are showing the time (as 00:00) which wasn't shown before and probably should not be showing now.

2. the new coding still ignores my preference setting for the date display. This is unchanged from before so may be intended? If it is intended, I will submit it as a separate bug :-)

Malcolm.

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Malcolm Austen <malcolm.austen@...>

On 17/02/2021 21:00:15, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

Hello,

I've made some substantial changes in both how our javascript helper files are delivered as well as the code to display the actual event times. Please let me know if that fixes the problem.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: #bug event times in /feed are all 8 hours out #bug

 

On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 2:44 PM Malcolm Austen <malcolm.austen@...> wrote:
Thanks Mark, I will give it a proper look, with some varying settings of time zones, tomorrow.

On a very quick look, it seems good. I have two comments though ...

1. for 'all day' events, you are showing the time (as 00:00) which wasn't shown before and probably should not be showing now.

2. the new coding still ignores my preference setting for the date display. This is unchanged from before so may be intended? If it is intended, I will submit it as a separate bug :-)


Both of these issues should be fixed now.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Maintain sort order when switching between Gallery and List view of RSVP responders #suggestion

Andy Wedge
 

Hi Mark,

when switching between the Gallery and List views of RSVP responders, the display always reverts to being sorted by name. It would be nice if the sort order selected on one view could be maintained when switching to the other.

Thanks
Andy


moderated Re: #bug event times in /feed are all 8 hours out #bug

Jeremy H
 

I've had a look - seems to be ok now, thanks, I am seeing correct times on feed.

But there is an issue over 'all day' events - which in many ways - goes beyond this topic.

For an event in 'my' time zone it shows - as Malcolm says - with a time of 00:00 (midnight), e.g "Feb 20, 2021 00:00  all day         All day test" . But setting my zone to -3 hours relatively  (so UTC-3 for an event set up on UTC), I see "Feb 19, 2021 21:00  all day         All day test"  

This goes to the basics of what an 'all day' event is: is it something which is 'midnight to midnight' on local time, in some time zone (and which will be - correctly - some other times in a different zone, and spread over two days) or is it something that is 'time less' - that is happening whenever it that date, regardless of what the time is, or what the time zone is (and so will be for a duration (over the full range of zones, from UTC-11 to UTC+14) of 51 hours.

Observations: for anywhere observing Daylight Saving Time, annually they have a day of 25  hours, and another of 23 hours. And, for anyone born sufficiently close to midnight, their birthday (strictly, based on birth time) will change with time zone,

As I said - beyond this topic.

Jeremy


moderated Enable calendar events to be hidden #suggestion

Andy Wedge
 

Hi Mark,

it would be helpful to be able to set up calendar events in advance but hide them from view (except to Mods and the event creator) until details are ready to be published to other members.  A simple check-box option on the event details page would suffice. A more flexible approach could be to specify a date range during which the event is visible, or specify a number of days prior to the event at which it becomes visible.

Regards
Andy


moderated Re: Notify by email when RSVP status changes #suggestion

Andy Wedge
 

Hi Mark,

following on from above, if someone subsequently changes their mind a second time and changes their RSVP status back to Will Attend, no email notification is sent.  However, if they have changed their mind a second time and change their RSVP status to Will Attend and get placed on a waitlist, no notification email is sent to say they are on the waitlist but a notification is sent if a place becomes available and they are added to the event.

It leaves people a bit confused as to whether they have actually given up their place or if they have a place on an event at times.

Regards
Andy


moderated Re: #bug event times in /feed are all 8 hours out #bug

Malcolm Austen
 

Thanks Mark, I will give it a proper look, with some varying settings of time zones, tomorrow.

On a very quick look, it seems good. I have two comments though ...

1. for 'all day' events, you are showing the time (as 00:00) which wasn't shown before and probably should not be showing now.

2. the new coding still ignores my preference setting for the date display. This is unchanged from before so may be intended? If it is intended, I will submit it as a separate bug :-)

Malcolm.

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Malcolm Austen <malcolm.austen@...>

On 17/02/2021 21:00:15, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

Hello,

I've made some substantial changes in both how our javascript helper files are delivered as well as the code to display the actual event times. Please let me know if that fixes the problem.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Invalid All+R combo (due to the new SubScreen changes) left in the user db table #bug

 

On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 12:10 PM Christos G. Psarras <christos@...> wrote:

If you did run a query to update the user table with the new Replies-under-Following enforcement then I have no idea why this happened ...  but if you didn't run such a query then it would explain what I just noticed 


I have not had a chance to go through the database looking for previously allowed but invalid combinations.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: #bug event times in /feed are all 8 hours out #bug

 

Hello,

I've made some substantial changes in both how our javascript helper files are delivered as well as the code to display the actual event times. Please let me know if that fixes the problem.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Notify by email when RSVP status changes #suggestion

Andy Wedge
 

Hi Mark,

I have found that if someone RSVPs Will Attend for an event, they receive an email notification confirming they have a place. However, if they subsequently update their RSVP status to say Will Not Attend, no email notification is sent. It would be helpful if responses were consistent and email notifications were sent in both cases.

Thanks
Andy


moderated Re: Mobile/desktop menu flip #bug

Bruce Bowman
 

Mark -- I'm here to ask that you please reconsider the cutoff point between desktop and mobile menus.

Visually impaired people continue to struggle with it (ref: https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/80693046). It's difficult to explain why their menu items have disappeared when they haven't changed anything. Even those who are not blind may need fairly high zoom to be able to read the content.

This seems like a high price to pay just so users of some tablets don't have to rotate their device by 90 degrees. Thanks for your consideration.

Regards,
Bruce


moderated Invalid All+R combo (due to the new SubScreen changes) left in the user db table #bug

 

Hi Mark,

If you did run a query to update the user table with the new Replies-under-Following enforcement then I have no idea why this happened ...  but if you didn't run such a query then it would explain what I just noticed today in the MyGroups screen with my docs subscription:

That R shouldn't be there by itself, not anymore based on the new rules.

This would also explain my #bug post regarding docs topics appearing in my FollowedTopics list.  I must had set docs to R only (with All) to test something related to following and the user settings screen proposal back in January, but I cannot remember for sure, January was a bit hazy ... but it would explain this, I was fooled:  When I noticed the docs topics being in my FollowedTopics list 3 days ago, and not realizing then I must had done it (because I normally use F+FF+R), I went to check my docs subscription but the new changes "hid" the checked Replies I had set from back then, so it fooled me into believing I was set to Single+All for docs, when in reality I was Single+All+R ... and that fooling prompted me to post the aforementioned bug post.

 


To make sure this is what it was, I set my docs subscription to F+R, saved, and it showed correctly as F+R in MyGroups; then set it to All and F+R went away as expected.

An update query could be run against the user table and update anyone who has All+R to F+R, I'm sure I'm not the only one that may had it set up like that.  This will remove the invalid combo and prevent this condition from happening. 

Or do it as it comes up, adjust the sub settings loading to where, even if the Save button is not clicked, it still does the new R-under-F-only rule check and if found, update the screen and also the data record to change it to F+R.  This method would however still retain the invalid combo in the user table and only change it if the user goes in the sub settings screen.

Or something similar, or even do nothing, this is not a show-stopper, but it could generate unnecessary support emails or GMF/GH tickets due to confusion if not addressed.

Cheers,
Christos


moderated Re: possible bug in confirmation/application flow #bug #misc

 

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 09:54 AM, Christos G. Psarras wrote:
I have noticed that I seem to have to resend the pending question more often in the past months than I used to
I am talking about a very specific case, where the pending member shows up as "NC" and the email delivery history is showing the last email received is the confirmation email. This makes it very hard to tell whether (since apparently, according to Duane, both the confirmation and pending notices are sent at the same time, which to me means "ordered at the same time but we can't really know which went out first") - makes it very hard to tell whether or not the pending notice actually went out and was received at all. If this is changed so that the pending notice goes out specifically only after the member has confirmed, mods would have much more information about this.
 
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moderated Re: possible bug in confirmation/application flow #bug #misc

 

On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 06:46 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
In these cases I always resend the pending message, because it looks to me like they never got it.

Now that you mentioned this, I have noticed that I seem to have to resend the pending question more often in the past months than I used to do when I first started.

Cheers,
Christos


moderated Activity log date filter Today includes details from previous day #bug

Andy Wedge
 

Hi Mark,

I've just removed a list of members from my group and to check I had done the correct number and not missed anyone from my list I viewed the Activity Log for Removed member with date filter of Today.  The search results actually showed an entry from the previous evening when my co-owner removed another member.  So, the Today filter is either not doing what it says or perhaps it should really be labelled Within 24 hours ?

Regards
Andy

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