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Niman H
Many many of my members are bouncing since Jan 18th. Looks like all the @sympatico and @bell.net ones. The message for the bouncing reason is:
mxmta.owm.bell.net: read tcp4 66.175.222.12:36686->184.150.200.210:25: read: connection reset by peer or mxmta.owm.bell.net: read tcp4 66.175.222.12:49712->184.150.200.82:25: read: connection reset by peer (what does this mean?) Is this similar to the Gmail issue some weeks ago? Is it happening to anyone else? We are in Canada (Toronto) if that makes a difference. Thanks! Nancy
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Alain Mionnet
Mark,
Did you do something because a little bit better! A little bit because for many photos in one folder nothing is coming. For not many by folder seems ok. Tested on 700 photos at least (https://groups.io/g/listeATV/photosearch?q=IMSTP12) = NG. Also on an other group, 1000 photos,( https://groups.io/g/TekScopes/photosearch?q=img) = OK For the search on the last group, (https://groups.io/g/TekScopes/photosearch?q=Cabot) Cabot in the second folder, couldn't not be not find. Thank you for your help. Best regards Alain https://groups.io/g/advantestinstrument owner
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Re: Ability to add hashtags in replies
#suggestion
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 12:25 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Currently, if you change the subject in a reply, to add an additional hashtag, that hashtag is just ignored. What do you all think about changing that, so that replies to topics can add hashtags?Hashtags are a function of the topic, not a message. Is the intent that adding a hashtag to a subject line in a reply would apply only to that one message (my preference)? Or would that automatically propagate to all the other messages in the topic? If the former, wouldn't that create a discrepancy between the emailed messages and what appears in the message archive? If the latter, what are the effects on the properties of messages previously posted in that topic (such as reply-to options, moderation, topic duration, and so on)? To mix a metaphor, I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around this can of worms. Right now it just seems like asking for a slew of unintended, new "features." I have seen people reply to threads that are years old; and I can just see someone deciding to retroactively add a hashtag -- perhaps years from now -- with the wrong Topic Duration, causing large portions of the message archive to disappear. Regards, Bruce
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Mark,
All of a sudden*** the attached images in the FO catch-up messagesJust to clarify, I did not test it with FO catch-up messages with embedded images, only "real" attachments, but I suspect the same problem will happen with embedded images too, since you're kinda treating them as attachments as far as storage/pointers is concerned. Seems S3 is not returning the actual file data in time or something, only the filename does. Cheers, Christos
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Mark,
This should be fixed now. It was a timing issue. We upload the attachments to S3 and then query S3 for a list of attachments. But S3 hadn't finished whatever it needs to do. I've added a delay.I suspect you may also have to similarly-tweak another part of the code in regards to attachments and S3; I was actually in the middle of writing that bug report when I read this and it clicked. I take it you are also using calls to S3 to query and retrieve (and embed/attach) the in-line image/attachments when the Follow-Topic catch-up emailer code is invoked. All of a sudden*** the attached images in the FO catch-up messages, while correctly named as in the original mailing, are now nothing but a 212 to 214 byte (in my test case) gibberish-contents file. (I can attach/mail them offlist if you think it may help) Cheers, Christos *** or at least I just noticed it while testing for another bug I also just found, in that same FO catch-up mailer area (to be submitted soon)
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Malcolm Austen
Just an aside on a completely different issue ... (to raise in GM<F perhaps)
The left column of my pasted table of browser and OS details was black text on white in my sent folder and in my inbox when it came back from GIO ... but in the web interface that left column is displayed white text on white! Malcolm.
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On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 9:59 AM Joanie <joanie.m.nightingale@...> wrote: start a new topic. Press the paper clip (attachment). browse for the file on your laptop and select one. I've tried jpg and pdf file types. Then Add the attachment to the topic. The file information is not displayed below the text box for the message. If you do this operation twice then the file is displayed below the text box but when send the message you'll that both attachments are in the topic. This should be fixed now. It was a timing issue. We upload the attachments to S3 and then query S3 for a list of attachments. But S3 hadn't finished whatever it needs to do. I've added a delay. Thanks, Mark
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Malcolm Austen
Hmm, the left column of the table went missing en-route to GIO, here it is, with <Ctrl-Shft-V>
Vivaldi 3.5.2115.87 (Stable channel) (64-bit)
Revision 63862004ac4fa761fcf3c744cd6ac9ef44284b9c
OS Windows 10 OS Version 1909 (Build 18363.1316)
JavaScript V8 8.7.220.31
Flash (Disabled)
User Agent Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/87.0.4280.142 Safari/537.36
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On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 11:54 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
What browser and operating system are you using?On mine, it's Win7 Home Premium with FF 84.0.2, both 64 bit, everything set to CST. I thought this problem might have something to do with my ISP, so I took my laptop to town and connected on another service - no help. I don't use the Feed much, so not a major concern here, just curiosity now. I've almost decided it may just be one of the joys of living in the boonies. ;>) Duane
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Re: Include info blurb & link to the upon account creation
#suggestion
That looks good, unobtrusive, simple, and precise, thanks! Cheers,
On 2021-01-25 10:27, Mark Fletcher
via groups.io wrote:
I've added links to the help center to the following areas:
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Malcolm Austen
Malcolm Austen: I use Vivaldi on Win 10 Mark - details below. Vivaldi is Chromium based. I'll try it again in other browsers (Edge, FF, Chrome, Opera) but not until tomorrow now, I have a zoom meeting this evening. Thanks, Malcolm.
I'll
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On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 12:36 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
This should be fixed now.Yes it is, much obliged! Cheers, Cristos
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On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 8:22 AM Malcolm Austen <malcolm.austen@...> wrote:
Very strange. I cannot reproduce this. What browser and operating system are you using? Thanks, Mark
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Re: Ability to add hashtags in replies
#suggestion
In retrospect I think, or am guessing, that the reason for ignoring added emailed tags originally was precisely that scenario and others like it, wherein non-mod members, through their ability to change subject lines via email, could also add tags that way. Maybe it’s possible to restrict to mods. If not, how about restricting this ability to the owner of groups.io? 😊
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On Jan 25, 2021, at 9:46 AM, Malcolm Austen <malcolm.austen@...> wrote:
-- J Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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Re: Ability to add hashtags in replies
#suggestion
Malcolm Austen
Mark, I think this would be fine if restricted to moderators. Otherwise we could have the scenario ... 1. member posts with a hashtag 2. moderator removes hashtag but the emails have already gone out with it 3. first reply by email adds it back in 4. repeat 2 & 3 ad infinitum Malcolm. -- Malcolm Austen <malcolm.austen@...>
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Re: Ability to add hashtags in replies
#suggestion
Fine with me as long as tags added by non-mods are ignored. Is that possible to implement? They can’t be added even now by non-mods even via web, since it requires a subject edit. But non-mods can change subjects vis email. I would not want them adding tags that way.
— J Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 8:47 PM Christos G. Psarras <christos@...> wrote:
This should be fixed now. Thanks, Mark
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Re: Ability to add hashtags in replies
#suggestion
Hi Mark,
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 05:25 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote: Even though it'd make things easier in this instance, I'm not sure it's a good idea overall, hence this email. Do people have strong feelings about this?It has been the way it is since I started using Groups.io so it may help if I understood the rationale for ignoring hashtags on replies to start with. I've managed to get most of the members in my group to use hashtags sensibly and they understand that they apply on the first message of a new topic. So, unless there are clear benefits in changing it, I'm happy with the way it is now. Regards Andy
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Re: Ability to add hashtags in replies
#suggestion
Hi, I think some groups might appreciate this. Consider: A member posts a new message that was traditionally associated with a hashtag. Somehow, the member has forgotten to attach a hashtag. Someone else replies (perhaps an owner) and tries to add the needed hashtag without going to the web archive and changing it. One concern is how this will handle topic splits. As pointed out by a moderator of a list I’m a part of, when you change subject lines, topics are split, and I believe this is also the case when hashtags are introduced by members in the middle of a topic. If I understand this proposal correctly, topics won’t be split even if hashtags are introduced when replying. Am I right on this? Thanks. Cheers, Joseph
From: main@beta.groups.io <main@beta.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Fletcher
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 9:25 AM To: main@beta.groups.io Subject: [beta] Ability to add hashtags in replies #suggestion
Hi All, Currently, if you change the subject in a reply, to add an additional hashtag, that hashtag is just ignored. What do you all think about changing that, so that replies to topics can add hashtags? I'm asking because in one particular case for me, it'd make things easier. As Andy has noted, I have not been keeping up with adding the #done hashtag to #suggestion topics where I've implemented the suggestion. It would be convenient if, when I reply indicating I've implemented the suggestion, that I could add the #done hashtag, instead of having to go to the website and editing the topic. Even though it'd make things easier in this instance, I'm not sure it's a good idea overall, hence this email. Do people have strong feelings about this? I'm not particularly interested in adding a group toggle for this. Thanks,
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Ability to add hashtags in replies
#suggestion
Hi All, Currently, if you change the subject in a reply, to add an additional hashtag, that hashtag is just ignored. What do you all think about changing that, so that replies to topics can add hashtags? I'm asking because in one particular case for me, it'd make things easier. As Andy has noted, I have not been keeping up with adding the #done hashtag to #suggestion topics where I've implemented the suggestion. It would be convenient if, when I reply indicating I've implemented the suggestion, that I could add the #done hashtag, instead of having to go to the website and editing the topic. Even though it'd make things easier in this instance, I'm not sure it's a good idea overall, hence this email. Do people have strong feelings about this? I'm not particularly interested in adding a group toggle for this. Thanks,
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