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Re: owners and moderators not fair
On 18 May 2015 at 17:10, marvin hunkin wrote:
How can I prove that I have changed and my friend, is not given aI think it will be hard because apparently you do not know, or do not believe, you're breaking the rules. Mark closed the thread. You started another one on the exact same topic. That kind of behavior could lead me to ban you from my groups without you even having applied. You can start your own group without the approval of the other group owner/moderators. Maybe you should do so, so you can see how hard it is to build up a group, and how easily a single member can tear it apart. If you see the situation from the owner viewpoint, you might see why it's important that the owner alone determine whether a member is allowed into the group or is banned from the group.. -- Jim Poston@vch-nv.us << 'Please don't disturb my friend. He's dead tired.' >>
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Re: owners and moderators not fair
Steph <hsrsp@...>
I think something like this Marvin should be
left up to the owner/moderator of every group not up to the
developer.
From: marvin hunkin
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 2:40 AM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: [beta] owners and moderators not fair Hi. There should be a three strike process for the groups. First offence, you get sent a private e-mail, second offence, you get put on moderated status, third strike, banned for life. Not fair, what the owners and mods did with the three groups. I and my friend should be given one more chance. Not fair. Pity there is no process for greivences or to report abuse, to groups.io. Maybe they should set up such a system. Maybe mark can implement that, and pity he cannot oversee running of groups, on groups.io, and where he feels the mods or owners are not doing their job properly, or have a dispute with a member. I have proof, if you like, when one of the mods, called me a nutter a loser and a scum bag via private e-mail. They started it not me, if they had not banned me in the first place and my friend. Had noreal reason, and yes, I never got the guidelines for that tech list, and never received them, telling the truth. Why would I make up a story, if I was lying. And never got those reminders. Not fair. Groups.io, should be a more fairer mailling lists, and the people on the groups I am banned,m only the two mods, and not a third mod or a main owner, and they have a beef with me, and no one else to ask. So, I did ask to be a mod or owner, they do not want me. How can I prove that I have changed and my friend, is not given a chance to prove it. They do not really know me. They have a greivence, a beef, and have a biest, and not given this matter an impartial or unemotional look. Not fair. Marvin.,
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Re: owners and moderators not fair
kr402
Marvin,
This is 'Off topic', so Mark has closed it. Did you miss that post?
Hi. There should be a three strike process for the groups. First offence, you get sent a private e-mail, second offence, you get put on moderated status, third strike, banned for life. Not fair, what the owners and mods did with the three groups. I and my friend should be given one more chance. Not fair. Pity there is no process for greivences or to report abuse, to groups.io. Maybe they should set up such a system. Maybe mark can implement that, and pity he cannot oversee running of groups, on groups.io, and where he feels the mods or owners are not doing their job properly, or have a dispute with a member. I have proof, if you like, when one of the mods, called me a nutter a loser and a scum bag via private e-mail. They started it not me, if they had not banned me in the first place and my friend. Had noreal reason, and yes, I never got the guidelines for that tech list, and never received them, telling the truth. Why would I make up a story, if I was lying. And never got those reminders. Not fair. Groups.io, should be a more fairer mailling lists, and the people on the groups I am banned,m only the two mods, and not a third mod or a main owner, and they have a beef with me, and no one else to ask. So, I did ask to be a mod or owner, they do not want me. How can I prove that I have changed and my friend, is not given a chance to prove it. They do not really know me. They have a greivence, a beef, and have a biest, and not given this matter an impartial or unemotional look. Not fair. Marvin.,
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owners and moderators not fair
Marvin Hunkin <startrekcafe@...>
Hi. There should be a three strike process for the groups. First offence, you get sent a private e-mail, second offence, you get put on moderated status, third strike, banned for life. Not fair, what the owners and mods did with the three groups. I and my friend should be given one more chance. Not fair. Pity there is no process for greivences or to report abuse, to groups.io. Maybe they should set up such a system. Maybe mark can implement that, and pity he cannot oversee running of groups, on groups.io, and where he feels the mods or owners are not doing their job properly, or have a dispute with a member. I have proof, if you like, when one of the mods, called me a nutter a loser and a scum bag via private e-mail. They started it not me, if they had not banned me in the first place and my friend. Had noreal reason, and yes, I never got the guidelines for that tech list, and never received them, telling the truth. Why would I make up a story, if I was lying. And never got those reminders. Not fair. Groups.io, should be a more fairer mailling lists, and the people on the groups I am banned,m only the two mods, and not a third mod or a main owner, and they have a beef with me, and no one else to ask. So, I did ask to be a mod or owner, they do not want me. How can I prove that I have changed and my friend, is not given a chance to prove it. They do not really know me. They have a greivence, a beef, and have a biest, and not given this matter an impartial or unemotional look. Not fair. Marvin.,
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Re: Owners And Moderators
This is off-topic for beta, so I'll be closing the thread now. Marvin, everyone had good advice for you; my suggestion is to start your own group. Mark
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Mobile app
Benoît Dumeaux <dread_axefr@...>
Hello Mark,
Do you have project of mobile app with features like push notifications and bubble view? -- Benoît
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Import Mbox
Benoît Dumeaux <dread_axefr@...>
Possibility to import mbox to a group?
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Re: Owners And Moderators
Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...>
Hi, thank you for backing us up. And Marvin, I agree with what's been said here. So there's no way you're coming back. Start your own group http://list.ntxability.org/mailman/listinfo/chat_list.ntxability.org or send a blank message to Sent from my iPhone
On May 17, 2015, at 6:24 AM, rajmund <brajmund2000@...> wrote:
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Re: Owners And Moderators
Marvin, If you and your friend truly have changed/have good intentions now, then I suggest you move on to other groups or start your own. It seems to me you've probably burned your bridges at the groups you're discussing, so I would just take that as a lesson learned, let go and try not to make the same mistakes on whatever groups you both join going forward. Most good owners/moderators who want continuity for their groups have probably already elevated to moderator status one or two other group members they trust to keep the group on track. Trish
On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 6:44 AM, marvin hunkin <startrekcafe@...> wrote:
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Re: Owners And Moderators
rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
Hello Marvin,
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Oh, please. I know that tech list, you're on about. The rules were sent out 3 times. I'm really skeptical, whether you have seen it or not. I'm very doubtful that you have missed it all 3 times. I think I also know the admins, and they do a good job, so I'm not sure where and when they have called you a loser. And, that friend of yours. I'm afraid I have seen him in action. He may have changed, but what he has done, people will find it very hard to forgive. Oh, your moderator question. That is exactly why lists have as much as 3 admins, to make sure that everything is as it should be. Its almost impossible for all 3 to be busy, ill, or whatever. PS. While yahoogroups is no longer accessible, you could begin your group elsewhere. There are quite a few options out there, you know. Sent from the BrailleNote
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From: marvin hunkin <startrekcafe@gmail.com To: beta@groups.io Date sent: Sun, 17 May 2015 20:14:55 +0930 Subject: [beta] Owners And Moderators Hi. Okay will explain my self. My point of view. Okay, well my friend got banned, not sure why. Has tried to talk to the owners and mods, but don't think they want to hear from him. A few years ago, he was threatening on e-mail, and he was not in a good head space, mentally. No excuse. But he has changed, has got better medical help, and is a changed person. So. People cannot forget or forgive him for the past, and he has changed. I have seen it firsthand. And okay, I got banned from one tech list, because, I forwarded a tech article,did not get the rules e-mailed to me, could not find the rules on the group site, and also the second time either forgot I had done it the first time, or maybe some one might have hacked my account, not sure what ever. But it was my fault, stupid me. The other reason I got banned from a second group, was posting for a non member, thought I was helping him out. So, I have tried to talk to the mods or the owners, they do not like me and they have a beef with me. And also got banned from another group, because I said I would feel I could make a better mods or owner. Have had my own yahoo groups a few years ago, when yahoo groups was more accessible, then today. And so I did not mean to upset the mod and never meant to do that or to upset the person on purpose. Never my intention. Was just speaking my piece, as we have some beefs, and that mod called me a nutter, a loser, a scumbag. You do not treat your members that way, swear at them, dennegrate them, or make them feel bad. Was hurt by their comments. So. I was wanting to get back on that group. So, what happens if the mods, do not have good communications skills? And treat the members, or former members like I have had, via private e-mails. No way to treat me like dirt, or I do not belong. Was very hurt, but did not retaliate as a mature person. I have said and done some stupid things a few years ago, I regret doing or saying things. So, what happens, if say for one reason or another, the owners or the mods, cannot run the group, for one reason or another? Emotional, mental breakdown, physical impairments, family, not enough time, time poor, or if they are ill, sick, incapacitated,or die. So, maybe there should be other moderators, to step into their shoes. pity, there is no place for wrong or grievous disputes between members, owners, mods. And pity no policy for reporting abuse, disputes, etc. What do you think? Please be civil, do not bash me for the sake of bashing. That's my two cents worth. Marvin.
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Marvin Hunkin <startrekcafe@...>
Hi. Okay will explain my self. My point of view. Okay, well my friend got banned, not sure why. Has tried to talk to the owners and mods, but don’t think they want to hear from him. A few years ago, he was threatening on e-mail, and he was not in a good head space, mentally. No excuse. But he has changed, has got better medical help, and is a changed person. So. People cannot forget or forgive him for the past, and he has changed. I have seen it firsthand. And okay, I got banned from one tech list, because, I forwarded a tech article,did not get the rules e-mailed to me, could not find the rules on the group site, and also the second time either forgot I had done it the first time, or maybe some one might have hacked my account, not sure what ever. But it was my fault, stupid me. The other reason I got banned from a second group, was posting for a non member, thought I was helping him out. So, I have tried to talk to the mods or the owners, they do not like me and they have a beef with me. And also got banned from another group, because I said I would feel I could make a better mods or owner. Have had my own yahoo groups a few years ago, when yahoo groups was more accessible, then today. And so I did not mean to upset the mod and never meant to do that or to upset the person on purpose. Never my intention. Was just speaking my piece, as we have some beefs, and that mod called me a nutter, a loser, a scumbag. You do not treat your members that way, swear at them, dennegrate them, or make them feel bad. Was hurt by their comments. So. I was wanting to get back on that group. So, what happens if the mods, do not have good communications skills? And treat the members, or former members like I have had, via private e-mails. No way to treat me like dirt, or I do not belong. Was very hurt, but did not retaliate as a mature person. I have said and done some stupid things a few years ago, I regret doing or saying things. So, what happens, if say for one reason or another, the owners or the mods, cannot run the group, for one reason or another? Emotional, mental breakdown, physical impairments, family, not enough time, time poor, or if they are ill, sick, incapacitated,or die. So, maybe there should be other moderators, to step into their shoes. pity, there is no place for wrong or grievous disputes between members, owners, mods. And pity no policy for reporting abuse, disputes, etc. What do you think? Please be civil, do not bash me for the sake of bashing. That’s my two cents worth. Marvin.
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Re: Glitch in Photos
As always, thanks for the prompt attention.
Duane
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Re: Glitch in Photos
Hi Duane, On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote: A member attempted to upload 3 photos. It said they uploaded, but don't show in the album.. I also tried to upload. The album says there are now 9 photos (3 copies of 3 pix), but none of them are visible. I've isolated and fixed the problem. We had trouble parsing the EXIF data for those photos, and we didn't handle that error, which screwed everything up. We now parse the data correctly and handle errors as well. My suggestion is to delete that album and recreate it. Sorry about the bug! Thanks, Mark
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Re: owners and moderators
rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
Hello,
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While I'm not a moderator, I believe, the person must have been banned for a good reason. At therefore, it should stay that way. Sent from the BrailleNote
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From: Feathered Leader <featheredleader@att.net To: beta@groups.io Date sent: Thu, 14 May 2015 11:28:21 -0700 Subject: [beta] Re: owners and moderators I am way behind reading in here, so I apologize for that. But I saw this topic and had to weigh in. Marvin, banning is absolutely necessary for group owners and moderators to have sole control of. If not, like Trish and others have pointed out, people who are bent on causing trouble, hurting others, or even just spammers would be uncontrollable. Think of this as an example. If there was a support group about women who had been sexually abused and a known sexual abuser joined it, how would they stop him from harassing them or finding ways to get at them if they weren't banned. Or if there was a support group for gays and lesbians, and a gay hater joined it, they would be forced to be subject to cruel and hurtful behavior if the group couldn't ban them. If your friend has a problem with the owners of the group, he needs to write them and ask ask them if he is indeed banned, why he is banned, what the problem is, and if it could be solved another way. If they are determined not to let him in, he isn't going to get in, sorry. It's no different really than businesses who have the right to refuse service to anyone. It's only the owners and moderators who have that power to ban and unban. And I agree with Vickie, I would want no part of any service that ever gave that power to the invididual member. I had an ex-fiance who stalked me both online and off for awhile, and that would be another dangerous scenario that could come about, someone bent on following someone they had a grudge against, and use that knowledge to hurt them. Nope. BAD idea. Mark, don't even consider it. Thanks, Brenda Nightowl >8# Owner/Moderator of Mods & Members
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Re: owners and moderators
Thanks Mark. :)
Sorry I'm so behind in here, but I'm trying to get caught up. :) Brenda
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Re: owners and moderators
christopher hallsworth <challsworth2@...>
Good on you sir. If members were able to unban themselves, there would sure be uproar from this community. I would join in with the uproar for sure. Cheers!
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On 15 May 2015, at 04:18, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
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Adrien Collins <adriencollins22160@...>
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What is the point of that, it would be pointless to have owners. Regards Adrien
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From: Feathered Leader [mailto:featheredleader@att.net] Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 1:15 AM To: beta@groups.io Subject: [beta] Re: owners and moderators Mark, Marvin wants to be able to unban himself or have other members unban themselves. regardless of the owner's or moderators having banned them. I'm positive that you would not ever agree to allow that, but it would be nice if you could confirm that for everyone. :) Brenda
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Re: Where's Mark
That's amazing! I think you just made a few RPG groups VERY excited. Also maybe Freecycler-types? GREAT call on Orgs.
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Re: owners and moderators
On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Feathered Leader <featheredleader@...> wrote: Mark, I will not allow this. Mark
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Re: owners and moderators
Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...>
Okay guys I'll get this changed as soon as I possibly can.
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Joseph Hudson
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