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SORBS Spam has groups.io blacklisted again #misc

Bruce Bowman

#27121

Mark -- They're at it again. See search below. I wasn't able to get the "details" without paying. This is affecting those on Charter/Spectrum/Roadrunner.

FYI,
Bruce

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Re: #bug event times in /feed are all 8 hours out #bug

Malcolm Austen

#27120

On 13/12/2020 02:08:27, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:
> I can reproduce the effect though ...
> in a group with default user TZ set to UTC (I know that should not
> matter) with my TZ set to UTC I create a calendar event with TZ UTC to
> occur at 18:00 The event shows at 18:00 in the calendar but at 10:00
> in /feed

Well now I'm confused. Testing this after the report in GMF I couldn't
reproduce this. Now I can. I'm not sure what accounts for the change.

Malcolm Austen:

I can Shal, possibly, so your observations may be a good clue.

Mark has 'fixed' that line in the javascript file. Now I'm no expert on javascript, and certainly not ion how it works with objects but I assume that prior to the fix, no errors were being generated. Thus I think it is conceivable that the 'fix' has turned something that only affects some people or groups into something that now affects all people or groups.

As ever though, it's just a maybe.

Malcolm.

I did two things: I changed the group's Def Sub Setting to UTC, and I
created two new events. Changing the group's Def Sub Setting to EST
hasn't corrected the problem, so it seems not to be the issue. At least
not in a direct way.

Possibly the act of creating new events caused something to get lodged
(or dislodged) somewhere that causes my Feed page to now be shown in PST
regardless of my Account's timezone?

I have the same problem when my account time zone is EST: the group's
Upcoming Events list on the Feed page shows them in PST, whereas the
Your Calendar page and the group's Calendar page shows them correctly in
EST.

Another user account with PST timezone sees them in PST in all three places.

Shal

Re: #bug event times in /feed are all 8 hours out #bug

Shal Farley

#27119

Malcolm,

I can reproduce the effect though ...
in a group with default user TZ set to UTC (I know that should not
matter) with my TZ set to UTC I create a calendar event with TZ UTC to
occur at 18:00 The event shows at 18:00 in the calendar but at 10:00
in /feedWell now I'm confused. Testing this after the report in GMF I couldn't reproduce this. Now I can. I'm not sure what accounts for the change.

I did two things: I changed the group's Def Sub Setting to UTC, and I created two new events. Changing the group's Def Sub Setting to EST hasn't corrected the problem, so it seems not to be the issue. At least not in a direct way.

Possibly the act of creating new events caused something to get lodged (or dislodged) somewhere that causes my Feed page to now be shown in PST regardless of my Account's timezone?

I have the same problem when my account time zone is EST: the group's Upcoming Events list on the Feed page shows them in PST, whereas the Your Calendar page and the group's Calendar page shows them correctly in EST.

Another user account with PST timezone sees them in PST in all three places.

Shal

Re: #bug event times in /feed are all 8 hours out #bug

Malcolm Austen

#27118

On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 01:52 PM, Malcolm Austen wrote:

I can reproduce the effect though ...

in a group with default user TZ set to UTC (I know that should not matter)

with my TZ set to UTC

I create a calendar event with TZ UTC to occur at 18:00

The event shows at 18:00 in the calendar but at 10:00 in /feed

If I create an event with TZ set to AWST (8 hours ahead of UTC) for 18:00

it shows in my calendar (TZ UTC) correctly as 12:00

Ooops, I meant "it shows in my calendar (TZ UTC) correctly as 10:00"

but in /feed as 02:00

If I change my (account) TZ to AWST,

that same event shows in my calendar as 18:00 (AWST)

but still appears in /feed as 02:00

Therefore I conclude that events shown in /feed always display in PST and make no adjustment for my (account) TZ setting.

Re: Site updates #changelog

Peter Rawbone

#27117

Mark,

Have a great holiday and I hope you will ‘return’ refreshed with lots of solutions.

Thanks for all you’ve done this, and past years.

Take care
--
Peter

Re: #bug event times in /feed are all 8 hours out #bug

Malcolm Austen

#27116

On 12/12/2020 04:48:36, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 12:40 PM Malcolm Austen <malcolm.austen@...> wrote:
At risk of making a fool of myself, I think I have spotted it as a bug in https://groups.io/js/displaytime-0.2.6.js
<snip>
should, I suspect, have that last line before the snip as momentDay = moment.tz(t,tzstr)
- that's what the matching line looks like in the other, similar functions in that file.
You might be right. I've been unable to reproduce the bug, try as I might. I've made the change to this line of code, please let me know if it fixes the problem for you. You may need to do a force reload; hold down the shift key while clicking the browser refresh button.

Malcolm Austen:

Thanks Mark. I have tried refreshes galore (button and F5 with and without Shift and Ctrl) and also loaded it up in a browser that has had everything cleared and not visited groups.io before. That javascript change does appear not to have made any difference.

I can reproduce the effect though ...

in a group with default user TZ set to UTC (I know that should not matter)

with my TZ set to UTC

I create a calendar event with TZ UTC to occur at 18:00

The event shows at 18:00 in the calendar but at 10:00 in /feed

If I create an event with TZ set to AWST (8 hours ahead of UTC) for 18:00

it shows in my calendar (TZ UTC) correctly as 12:00

but in /feed as 02:00

If I change my (account) TZ to AWST,

that same event shows in my calendar as 18:00 (AWST)

but still appears in /feed as 02:00

Therefore I conclude that events shown in /feed always display in PST and make no adjustment for my (account) TZ setting.

Keep safe, Malcolm.

Site updates #changelog

Mark Fletcher

#27115

Changes to the site this week:

BUGFIX: Hopefully fix the weird feed event time discrepancy bug.
APP: Work on a new version of the app utilizing the website templates instead of React Native.
INTERNAL: More work on converting templates to quicktemplate.
CHANGE: Added a breadcrumb bar to the group calendar page.
SYSADMIN: Upgraded the load balancer nodes to dedicated CPU instances.

The next #changelog will be published on Friday, January 8, 2021. Part of the time I will be on holiday, but the rest I will be focusing on the long lamented app. I had hired a firm to develop an app, as a separate program from the code that runs Groups.io. That meant that any change I wished to make to the website would also have to be made to the app. I was unhappy with how this was developing, so I spent some time recently figuring out how to develop an app using the code that already runs the Groups.io website. In this scenario, I would only have to make a change in one place, and I would not have to worry about the website and the app getting out of sync with different changes. I've figured out how to do this, and am now focused on finishing up the (new, new) app. As part of this, I may be tweaking some parts of the mobile website.

As is the case when I am on holiday, I will still be monitoring the site, but support email responses may be slower than normal.

Take care everyone, and happy holidays!

Mark

Re: #bug event times in /feed are all 8 hours out #bug

Mark Fletcher

#27114

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 12:40 PM Malcolm Austen <malcolm.austen@...> wrote:

At risk of making a fool of myself, I think I have spotted it as a bug in https://groups.io/js/displaytime-0.2.6.js
function DisplayEventTime(t, tzstr, dateFormat, timeFormat) {
    if (t == 0) {
        return '';
    }
    if (typeof tzstr === 'undefined' || tzstr == '') {
        tzstr = '';
        momentDay = moment(t);
    } else {
        momentDay = moment(t).tz(tzstr);
<snip>
should, I suspect, have that last line before the snip as momentDay = moment.tz(t,tzstr)
- that's what the matching line looks like in the other, similar functions in that file.

You might be right. I've been unable to reproduce the bug, try as I might. I've made the change to this line of code, please let me know if it fixes the problem for you. You may need to do a force reload; hold down the shift key while clicking the browser refresh button.

Thanks,

Mark

Re: #suggestion calendar #suggestion

Bruce Bowman

#27113

On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 11:35 AM, Chris Kozel wrote:

We are using the free version currently and are grandfathered for using subgroups. When you are in the files or photo or database display for a subgroup it is clear by the heading. There is no such heading for the calendar display so I would suggest you add it to be clear.

I agree that having a breadcrumb path at the top of each Calendar page would be beneficial. We seem to have that on every page except the calendar.

Regards,
Bruce

#suggestion calendar #suggestion

Chris Kozel

#27112

We are using the free version currently and are grandfathered for using subgroups. When you are in the files or photo or database display for a subgroup it is clear by the heading. There is no such heading for the calendar display so I would suggest you add it to be clear.

Re: Poll -View Results Issue #suggestion

J_Catlady

#27111

That’s what I was beginning to suspect, and if so, was feeling very bad about the jokes. If you are reading, Bill, please know that our joking was not directed at you personally, but just the funny sounding text. And please accept my sincere apology.

Show quoted text

On Dec 11, 2020, at 5:39 AM, Peter Cook <peterscottcook@...> wrote:

Thank you, Sandi.

Pete

--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu

Re: Poll -View Results Issue #suggestion

Sandi D <sandi.asgtechie@...>

#27110

To those that do want to help the cahracters displayed as "I madeva pill a d do nitbsee a nirmak option, ti allow members to see poll results as we go"
may be translated to read as,
"I made a poll and do not see a check mark option to allow members to see poll results as we go."

--
Sandi

Re: Poll -View Results Issue #suggestion

Peter Cook

#27109

Thank you, Sandi.

Pete

Re: Poll -View Results Issue #suggestion

Sandi D <sandi.asgtechie@...>

#27108

I know Bill. He is a member of one of the accessibilty GIO groups for the unsighted, vision and hearing impaired where I offer my assistance.
He uses assistive technology which does not always translate well, what he his speaking.

Hi Bill,
You have posted what appears might be a Zoom Poll question to the wrong group. This is a Group for those with questions on how Groups IO works. If your polling question is about Zoom, please post it to our Accessibility Zoom Users Group. I will answer it there.

If you have created a Groups IO Group and your question is about group Moderators managing GIO polls for members in the GIO group then this is the correct forum. If that is the case, please try again with your question. It did not translate well to text which means sighted people were unable to read words. Much of it was garbled letters and many of the responses were made with attempts to be humorous instead of helpful.

Warm regards,
Sandi Dickenson

Re: Calendar has disappeared #bug

Glenn Glazer

#27107

Just as a data point, I checked in two of my groups, one of which is premium and other not, and both have the calendar visible.

Best,

Glenn

Show quoted text

On Thu, 12/10 15:25, Bruce Bowman wrote:

Mark -- Multiple people have reported that their calendar page has suddenly gone blank today. Me, too.

Attached is a screenshot.

Regards,
Bruce

--
PG&E Delenda Est

Re: Poll -View Results Issue #suggestion

Mark Fletcher

#27106

All,

I know the responses were in the spirit of good natured fun, but as I have directly experienced over many years and via many personal mistakes, in email it's easy for sentiments to be misconstrued. Feel free to tease, make fun of, deride, or otherwise direct any and all denigrations, good natured or otherwise, towards me. But please, not towards others in the group.

Thanks,

Mark

Re: Calendar has disappeared #bug

Mark Fletcher

#27105

On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 5:09 PM Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:

Mark -- Multiple people have reported that their calendar page has suddenly gone blank today. Me, too.

Oops. Syntax error in some changed javascript. It's been fixed.

Thanks,

Mark

Calendar has disappeared #bug

Bruce Bowman

#27104

Mark -- Multiple people have reported that their calendar page has suddenly gone blank today. Me, too.

Attached is a screenshot.

Regards,
Bruce

Re: Poll -View Results Issue #suggestion

J_Catlady

#27103

I strenuously disagree. Dealbreaker.

Show quoted text

On Dec 10, 2020, at 4:01 PM, Peter Cook <peterscottcook@...> wrote:

On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 11:03 AM, billsf9c wrote:

I madeva pill a d do nitbsee a nirmak option
As I recall, Mark decided to remove the nirmak option.

--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu

Re: Poll -View Results Issue #suggestion

Peter Cook

#27102

On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 11:03 AM, billsf9c wrote:

I madeva pill a d do nitbsee a nirmak option

As I recall, Mark decided to remove the nirmak option.