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locked Re: Like

 

Duane,

I can't think of any reason that we'd need (or want) it on our groups.
But perhaps your members will.

One is strictly technical, so there's a remote possibility it would be
used there. One is a social group, so no need for it at all unless
there's a Dislike choice. A third is a planning/club group and I can't
think what we'd use it for there.
I think a reasonable theory is that many people chime in on lists simply to say "I like this", or "I agree with this", and no further comment is needed. The opposite, "dislike" or "disagree" typically comes with elaboration - why you like or agree with it - or begs for one. Having a dislike option might actually impede understanding if it causes members to simply flag their disagreement without explanation.

Of course there are lots of theories on this. See also:
http://www.quora.com/Why-is-there-no-Dislike-button-on-Facebook


If Like is the only option, should we assume that the other 7 billion
plus people in the world don't like it? Puts a different slant on
things. (grin)
A rather silly slant, if I may say so.

First, any assumption about people who did not see the message makes no sense. Second, you assume there's only two possibilities, like or dislike, where a quite natural possibility is that some or most people didn't have an opinion or didn't care.

-- Shal


locked Re: Like

 

On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 3:24 PM, J. Faulkner <jfaulkner44@...> wrote:
I totally agree.
You know, you could have used the like function here. :-)

Mark


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Duane
 

On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 03:11 pm, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

I hadn't planned on making it an option. Can you give me some more
information on why you don't want it? I figured in the grand scheme of
things it's a pretty small feature, but also, these days an expected
one.

Thanks,
Mark
I can't think of any reason that we'd need (or want) it on our groups. One is strictly technical, so there's a remote possibility it would be used there. One is a social group, so no need for it at all unless there's a Dislike choice. A third is a planning/club group and I can't think what we'd use it for there.

I asked ten people from my groups about it and only one even had any idea what it was for. I suspect it would cause lots of confusion, especially when they couldn't see another choice.

If Like is the only option, should we assume that the other 7 billion plus people in the world don't like it? Puts a different slant on things. (grin)

Duane


locked Re: Spam button reports

 

Mark,

I'm sure nobody knows about this, be we do archive +owner messages
that were sent from subscribers. To see the +owner messages from a
given member, click a member from the Members list, and then the
+owner Messages tab from the top.
I must have seen that before, but completely forgot about it.

There is currently no way to show all +owner
messages from all members at once, however.
Seems like a tab with that same title would fit nicely on the Messages page (as seen by an owner/moderator).

Have you been, or would you going forward, archive also the messages to +owner sent by non-subscribers? I think I'd want them too.

-- Shal


locked Re: Spam button reports

 

On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Shal Farley <shal@...> wrote:

Giving the member a way to report the message directly might well reduce the temptation to click the Spam button. At least after the first time, when the resubscribe message tells the (former) member what to do instead.

Of course "report" often implies more than just "spam", it implies any rule-breaking including offensive material or personal attacks. And that may be just as well.

" o Moderator - I think this content isn't appropriate for our Group. This includes rants and insulting other group members. The Group owner and/or moderator is responsible for maintaining their community and can address these issues.

" o Yahoo - I think this violates the Terms of Service. This includes : harm to minors, violence or threats, harassment or privacy invasion, impersonation or misrepresentation, fraud or phishing."
I'm definitely warming to this idea. Let me mock up a page in the next
day or so.


I suppose the simple thing would be to post the submitted report to the group's +owner address. I've always been a bit disappointed that Y!G's -owner address didn't have an archive of its own, available only to the moderators. But that's a separate feature request.
I'm sure nobody knows about this, be we do archive +owner messages
that were sent from subscribers. To see the +owner messages from a
given member, click a member from the Members list, and then the
+owner Messages tab from the top. It's dusty code, but I just tested
it and it works. There is currently no way to show all +owner messages
from all members at once, however.


Mark


locked Re: Moderating calendar reminders

 

On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Shal Farley <shal@...> wrote:
Mark,

What if I added the ability for specific hashtags to be moderated?
I like that. A nice general facility, which goes well with the ability to close or moderate a thread.
I've begun working on this. It seems like a simple addition (to me, at
least), but unfortunately it requires refactoring of some code.
Hopefully by the end of the week.

Jim, this gets you what you want. You can change #cal-reminder to be
moderated. And it's generally applicable to other uses. Adding a group
toggle seems like overkill, although I'll be happy to be convinced
otherwise.

Thanks,
Mark


locked Re: Like

Judy F.
 

I totally agree.

Judy
SW Florida - USA

-----Original Message-----
From: rajmund [mailto:brajmund2000@...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2015 6:15 PM
To: beta@groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] Re: Like

Hello,
I'm not sure whether I want this, either.
At the end of the day, what we would end up with, is a social site, working
with emails. I like the buty of mailing lists.
Sent from the BrailleNote


----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io
To: beta@groups.io
Date sent: Tue, 5 May 2015 15:11:20 -0700
Subject: Re: [beta] Re: Like

Hi Duane,

On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
Will you be making Like an owner option? I really don't want
it.

I hadn't planned on making it an option. Can you give me some
more
information on why you don't want it? I figured in the grand
scheme of
things it's a pretty small feature, but also, these days an
expected
one.

Thanks,
Mark


locked Re: Like

rajmund <brajmund2000@...>
 

Hello,
I'm not sure whether I want this, either.
At the end of the day, what we would end up with, is a
social site, working with emails. I like the buty of mailing lists.
Sent from the BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io
To: beta@groups.io
Date sent: Tue, 5 May 2015 15:11:20 -0700
Subject: Re: [beta] Re: Like

Hi Duane,

On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
Will you be making Like an owner option? I really don't want it.

I hadn't planned on making it an option. Can you give me some more
information on why you don't want it? I figured in the grand scheme of
things it's a pretty small feature, but also, these days an expected
one.

Thanks,
Mark


locked Re: Like

 

Hi Duane,

On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
Will you be making Like an owner option? I really don't want it.
I hadn't planned on making it an option. Can you give me some more
information on why you don't want it? I figured in the grand scheme of
things it's a pretty small feature, but also, these days an expected
one.

Thanks,
Mark


locked Re: Like

Duane
 

Will you be making Like an owner option? I really don't want it.

Duane


locked Re: Somewhat OT: Download Y! Group Messages

Benoît Dumeaux <dread_axefr@...>
 

On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 04:59 am, Benoît Dumeaux <dread_axefr@...> wrote:

On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:53 pm, Jim Poston <@poston> wrote:Sounds cool, but
if we somehow grab all our messages, do you plan to
provide a facility to import them here?
Agree with that.
If someone say how send the Y! G messages archive. Maybe it's possible to use a forward extension for Firefox Thunderbird.


locked Re: Like

 

On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Shal Farley <shal@...> wrote:

So if you're email-only you don't see anything new. But you can post likes
if you happen to know how.
Correct.


Maybe there could be a subscription preference, or maybe it should be a
profile preference, to receive email notification when someone "Likes" your
post. Either individual notifications or in their own daily digest.
I like that (get it? har). I think that will be part of a
notifications overhaul at some point. I want you to be able to see
notifications on the website, if you wish, instead of email. And if
you want email, you should be able to specify if you want individual
notifications, or have them grouped.

Mark


locked Re: Like

 

I subscribe to a newsletter from RSN.  I read the articles that are of interest to me.  The comments give readers of those comments to click on a green thumbs up which means Agree, or a red thumbs down which means disagree.  Sometimes I write comments to articles.  Sometimes, when I go back a few days later, my comment will have a green number or a red negative number.  But, usually, I don't bother. 

I have seen some message boards where comments get "liked" and that moves them up the list.  Somebody suggested that it would be nice to get an email if somebody else liked a comment he wrote.  If the point of installing a like button is to cut down on email, then that's kind of defeating the purpose. 

Somebody else suggested that there should also be a Dislike button.  I agree with that.  I propose that instead of Like or Dislike, that it should be changed to Agree or Disagree.  Of course, it is possible, also, to like somebody's message without agreeing with it. 

Somebody else indicated that one should not be able to like his or her own comment.  I agree with that.  In RSN, I can't thumbs up or thumbs down my comment.  In Care2, I can't send myself a green star. 


Donna


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I think that likes are a fantastic feature even if there aren't yet any notifications. It is great for people to be able to show that they appreciate a message without everyone being spammed.

Regarding notifications, I think that there should be two kinds of notifications. Firstly, there should be some kind of notification like on Facebook on the site which tells you when people liked your posts. It might be useful to have an option to turn this off, since whenever people see a number, they feel like they have to click it. Psychologically, it is very hard to ignore a large number.

Secondly, there should be some form of email notifications. There are a few options here.

Some people may want an email every like.

Some people may want to find out when a post is especially popular - say every five likes.

Others may want a digest. I imagine that the options here could easily become very complicated.


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Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...>
 

Yeah that's kind of what I was thinking.
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On May 4, 2015, at 7:42 PM, Shal Farley <shal@...> wrote:

Mark,

> Alternatively, you can reply to a message with either a "+1" or
> "like" (no quotes) as the first line of the reply, and that will be
> counted as a like (and the message will not be sent to the group).
>
> Currently you do not get any notifications if someone likes a message
> of yours.

So if you're email-only you don't see anything new. But you can post likes if you happen to know how.

Maybe there could be a subscription preference, or maybe it should be a profile preference, to receive email notification when someone "Likes" your post. Either individual notifications or in their own daily digest.

-- Shal




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I see you liked your own message.  That probably shouldn't be allowed.

Otherwise, it seems harmless enough.  It only starts to become a problem when you accumulate Likes and display the total number on a user's profile.  Then people start going all out trying to accumulate Likes, which tends to degrade the message quality.  (You would think otherwise, but....)


JohnF



locked Re: Like

 

Mark,

Alternatively, you can reply to a message with either a "+1" or
"like" (no quotes) as the first line of the reply, and that will be
counted as a like (and the message will not be sent to the group).

Currently you do not get any notifications if someone likes a message
of yours.
So if you're email-only you don't see anything new. But you can post likes if you happen to know how.

Maybe there could be a subscription preference, or maybe it should be a profile preference, to receive email notification when someone "Likes" your post. Either individual notifications or in their own daily digest.

-- Shal


locked Re: Like

Duane
 

So where are the "Don't Like" or "Waste of Time" or "Hated It" or "Useless and Bad Information" & etc. buttons? I've never quite understood the need for Like if there isn't another option.

Duane


locked Re: Like

Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...>
 

Hi Mark, so when somebody clicks the view link in an email there's a way to like iMessage that's new to me anyway. I'll have to check this out. If this is true, I would definitely love to be able to get notified about that as I don't really look at the web archive a whole lot.





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On May 4, 2015, at 6:42 PM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

Hi Judy,

On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 4:36 PM, J. Faulkner <jfaulkner44@...> wrote:

Currently in most of my groups, people have their messages set to special notice or Digest because they don't want all of those messages cluttering up their inbox, if I'm understanding this correctly, they will now get likes and dislikes?  Why does group.io have to be like Facebook?  Why can't they just send a message that they found the information informative or whatever?

That's the whole idea, by having the Like function, that eliminates
the need for someone to send a message to the group just saying they
agree or like a particular message. Hopefully, this will *reduce* the
number of messages sent to a group.

Currently there are no notifications when your message is liked, you
have to go to the web site to see that someone's liked your message.

Cheers,
Mark



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On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Frances <travel@...> wrote:

Will those who have the selected Advanced Preferences get another email when
something is “liked”, with “following only” and “first message also” as
their options? I hope not.
If someone does a +1 or a like in email, that message _is not_ sent to
the group. The like is recorded and the message is dropped, like it
never happened.

Mark