This type of unsubscribe request fails if the email program adds a
signature to postings, like mine do. Some email lists recognise 'stop'
after the 'unsubscribe' as a command to ignore everything that follows.

eg

unsubscribe
stop

Fred Blogs site link

Dave

On 7 Nov 2020 at 9:04, JohnF via groups.io wrote:

On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 10:30 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:

NEW: If you send a message with just the word 'unsubscribe' and
nothing else to a group, we now treat it as an unsubscribe request,
like sending a message to +unsubscribe (still requires confirmation).

As long as you confirm it, you might want to do the same thing if
someone sends the word "stop". This isn't traditionally used in
stopping email lists, but it has become standard in stopping SMS lists.
Someone who is more used to texting than joining email lists might try
that. (I don't have any real life examples of someone who did, just
thinking ahead.)

JohnF

http://davesergeant.com

On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 10:30 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:

NEW: If you send a message with just the word 'unsubscribe' and nothing else
to a group, we now treat it as an unsubscribe request, like sending a message
to +unsubscribe (still requires confirmation).

As long as you confirm it, you might want to do the same thing if someone sends the word "stop". This isn't traditionally used in stopping email lists, but it has become standard in stopping SMS lists. Someone who is more used to texting than joining email lists might try that. (I don't have any real life examples of someone who did, just thinking ahead.)

JohnF

On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 09:04 AM, Curt Gowan wrote:

When I looked closely at the confirmation email, I saw that the link was 

mailto:Curt-Test@groups.io
-- in other words, causing the applicant to submit a post to a group that they are not yet a member of.

I don't believe this is a bug, nor should it be changed.  Some groups allow posts by non-members.  Anyone that follows the instructions won't have a problem. ;>)

Duane

Changes to the site this week:

• DOCS: Updates from Nina.
• CHANGE: Login links in direct add emails now expire after 24 hours, to match the time frame we use when sending a login link.
• BUGFIX: If there's only one photo album, disable the Move button when viewing a photo.
• NEW: If you send a message with just the word 'unsubscribe' and nothing else to a group, we now treat it as an unsubscribe request, like sending a message to +unsubscribe (still requires confirmation).
• BUGFIX: When following a topic, we send out all existing messages. We were not adding the group subject tag to the messages.
• NEW: On the /topic and /message pages, there now is a Follow/Unfollow/Mute/Unmute button.
• CHANGE: Changed 'Reason' column title in the Past Members page to 'History'.

Take care everyone.

Mark

Our group used to have a Cats database and we eventually got rid of it. Our Database tab shows "no tables." Yet under Billing, we are still being dec'd by some amount of space for "Database Images." Maybe this is a bug, or maybe it's space used for a setup that exists in every group even if there is no database yet, but either way, it sure looks weird. Also, if it's the latter, I don't think that space should come out of the allocated allowable space if the group doesn't use the feature.
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu

Bill,

If a list is falling back to Free from Premium... and might not like it, they may take 30 days to really discuss it, and 30 to act.
So maybe Archive their SubGroups etc, while allowing to see but no access, or perhaps as a teaser, no access but Read Only.

You can simulate downgrading a free group by selectively (depending on when the group was created) locking features down so folks cannot send attachments, upload files, etc, something that simulates being right up the 1 GB used space.  That will give them a taste of how things will be with a 1 GB limit!

Cheers,
Christos

On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 10:07 AM, billsf9c wrote:

If a list is falling back to Free from Premium

All covered nicely in the Owners Manual.

Duane

Has anyone tried using Groups.io instead of apps like Mailchimp? Obviously not for marketing, but maybe announcements only? Are there advantages to using this platform over the usual email apps?

Best regards,
Steve Oglesby

Just a thought...

If a list is falling back to Free from Premium... and might not like it, they may take 30 days to really discuss it, and 30 to act.

So maybe Archive their SubGroups etc, while allowing to see but no access, or perhaps as a teaser, no access but Read Only.

And SubGroups is my best example at this early pre-coffee hour. It might apply to other lost teatures.

Once these are "lost-forever," they may force themselves, in a foul mood, to live within Free. But if they can get them back within 60 or 90 days, voille. I had originally thought -30 days. But groups are ships and they turn slowly.

BillSF9c

When paging through the results of the various views in the groups directory, there comes a point when it won't show the next page.  It always happens when crossing over the 10,000 results line.  As an example, if I go to https://groups.io/search?p=SubsCount,,,20,2,9980,0, all works fine.  When I scroll to the bottom and use the right arrow to go to page 501, there are no results shown, even though it (currently) says 10001 - 10020 of 32031 and the URL shows https://groups.io/search?p=SubsCount,,,20,2,10000,0.  I suspect it's when the results get into the 5 digit range.  Probably not something many people will do, but it's a bit irritating when I'm playing with search parameters there. ;>)

Thanks,
Duane

Yeah, it came in handy for this; the Online Follow everywhere ability had been asked a few times before, so your post pushed it off the table and into the done basket. :D

On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 08:02 PM, Christos G. Psarras wrote:

Thanks to J as well for finally pushing it over the table edge :)

Did you say that because I'm Catlady? Cats are always pushing things off the edge of tables. ;)
 
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu

Mark, many thanks for adding this, it makes following groups online a lot faster and easier!

Thanks to J as well for finally pushing it over the table edge :)

Cheers,
Christos

One last note on this, for anyone on an iPhone: It turns out that ios 14.1 fixes the "sends from wrong email address" bug. The bug was in 14.0. However, the fix results in the "name" part of the email being left out of emails from donotreply mass emails. That was the original source of my post here. The wrong-from-address occurred the day before and I noticed it in the morning.

Anyway, end of story except that on iPhones, summary and digest messages from groups.io now have strange-looking from addresses, by virtue of lacking the name of the group they're about.
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu

A date time field would be a handy feature for the database for a use case we have: we need to add entries for past events that occurred at a specific date and time, we then need to display the entries ordered from oldest to latest date & time.

Either that, or some way to link the existing date & time fields together for sorting purposes?

It would also be nice to be able to set a field as the default sort order for display purposes.

Chris

Concerning my original suggestion, I don't mind if you added "(NOT your OTP)" however my point is to not say any more in the label than what needs to be entered in that text field. I was mistaken because I quickly saw the words "Two-Factor Authentication" and to me that confirmed it was asking for the OTP same as all my other sites I was removing it from.

Who knows maybe someone else cannot understand what you need unless you also add all the things it does not need, but that was not my problem.
Bruce Bowman said:
> How about "Enter Your Password (NOT your OTP)"