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moderated consider a "Like" to be a "follow" #suggestion

 

It's possible I made this suggestion in the past - I have a vague memory of it but nothing happened. I would like to see this hashed out here, and if most agree, would urge Mark to implement it.

If you're set to following-only, first-message-also in a group and you "Like" a post, I think that should be considered a follow. It's not, and in consequence, you can Like a post, assume you're getting further messages from it (because you expressed your opinion about it, and you "did something" to it), but you don't. It is then a surprise when you don't receive any subsequent messages and come back to the site to see that you've actually missed the whole thing.
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moderated Re: Sort Admin menu sub-items #suggestion

 

On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 11:11 AM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
seems to be in order of most frequent use.
Huh? Order of most frequent use by whom? The most common thing I do is check the activity log, which almost at the very bottom, also against its rightful place in the alphabet. It took me awhile to get used to that.
 
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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moderated Re: Sort Admin menu sub-items #suggestion

Judy F.
 

Then possibly have it as an option.  I like the suggestion and have wondered about that for a long time.  I use Photos, Messages and Files far more than I do those that are appearing first in the list. 

Thank you,
Judy F.
SW Florida - USA


On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 02:11 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 09:46 AM, Mark Murphy wrote:
May I suggest sorting the sub-items on the Admin menu alphabetically to help in selection?
The current arrangement seems to be in order of most frequent use. I prefer it that way.

Regards,
Bruce


moderated Re: #suggestion Internationalisation in french ? #suggestion

Benoît Dumeaux
 

Maybe use of https://crowdin.com/ can help


moderated Re: Sort Admin menu sub-items #suggestion

Bruce Bowman
 

On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 09:46 AM, Mark Murphy wrote:
May I suggest sorting the sub-items on the Admin menu alphabetically to help in selection?
The current arrangement seems to be in order of most frequent use. I prefer it that way.

Regards,
Bruce


moderated Re: An easy way to reduce blacklisting #misc

Curt Gowan, HPAA Operations
 

Thanks @Duane for introducing me to FBLs. Found this Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feedback_loop_(email)


moderated Re: Problems replying to digest messages? #misc

 

On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 06:59 AM, West Coast Compañeros Staff wrote:
your efforts have not been in vain
OUR efforts. :)
 
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated in "approve and unmoderate," log the approval before the change in status #suggestion

 

This is very nit-picky, but after you approve a message and unmoderate the sender simultaneously, it looks a bit jarring to see the status change logged before the message approval in the chronological list They're of course given the same time stamp, but that's not obvious without hovering. So it can look like you first unmoderated the member and then approved their message. It would be a teensy bit better if they were switched.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Site updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site this week:

  • DOCS: Updates from Nina
  • INTERNAL: Improvements to internal admin tools and dashboards
  • INTERNAL: The second mail server is now processing half of all outbound email.

Take care everyone.

Mark


moderated Re: Problems replying to digest messages? #misc

West Coast Compañeros Staff
 

On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 08:18 PM, J_Catlady wrote:

And for the denouement, the group member, who was determined to blame this on groups.io and kept wailing to me about how she "could always reply to digests in yahoo," was in the end totally insouciant about my efforts to figure out her problem and the determination that it was a TB, not a groups.io, bug.
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J

J,

No good deed goes unpunished. Fortunately, this topic may be of help to other Thunderbird users who are in the same boat, so your efforts have not been in vain.

Robert


moderated Re: ID to datatable #bug

Jim Wilson
 

Duane is right. ID goes back to the early days of databases where every row is assigned a unique and permanent number. One benefit is finding duplicates to remove the later entry.
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Jim


moderated Sort Admin menu sub-items #suggestion

Mark Murphy
 

May I suggest sorting the sub-items on the Admin menu alphabetically to help in selection?

Thank you.


moderated Re: Problems replying to digest messages? #misc

Duane
 

On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 08:19 AM, ro-esp wrote:
Click "reply to this message", click the "balloon" to quote.
That means that you're replying online, not from within TB.  That's the only place you'd get the "balloon" to quote.

Duane


moderated Re: Problems replying to digest messages? #misc

ro-esp
 

On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 03:40 AM, Shal Farley wrote:


Robert,

> I'm somewhat surprised that Groups.io members who use Thunderbird,
> e.g. Shal, haven't run into this problem before. Maybe, like me, they
> rarely if ever use the digest footer links to "Reply to Group" or
> "Reply to Sender." I usually reply to individual messages using e-mail
> and use the Groups.io web interface to reply to a digest message..

Bingo.

I almost never use the footer links in either individual or digest
messages. Specifically because I inline reply with quote, as herein, and
the footer links don't give me a copy of the original message to work
with. So in individual messages I use Thunderbird's Reply button. In the
rare case of replying to a Digest I probably would go on site.
This is confusing. I do inline quoting (interspersing) all the time when replying to (plain) digests. Click "reply to this message", click the "balloon" to quote...

groetjes/ĝis, Ronaldo


moderated Re: #suggestion Internationalisation in french ? #suggestion

ro-esp
 

Offering several more languages would be nice, but for that we'd need a list of ALL notifications and prompts used by groups.io and a way to add translations.

Does Mark have the time to create something like that? Can he hire someone to do it?

groetjes/ĝis, Ronaldo


moderated Re: Problems replying to digest messages? #misc

 

Mark,

I wrote:
I just updated from 68.12.1 (32-bit) to 78.4.0 (32-bit) and I don't
get my pop-open windows anymore. Just the blank page.
I've done some testing and it seems to relate to the <a> element wrapped around the mailto link:

<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"...">Reply To Group</a>
In particular, the target="_blank" attribute seems to be the troublemaker. Absent that the enclosed mailto: seems to work fine, and opens a new composition window.

That still makes it a Thunderbird bug, unless there's some reason one isn't supposed to combine target with a mailto: protocol in the href. Which seems like an unlikely restriction. But it may explain how it got through testing if that's an unusual construction.

Shal
(For those following along at home, the "=3D" sequences in the example are just equal signs, in quoted-printable form. A consequence of me copying from a view source of the HTML message body.)


moderated Re: database embedding options #suggestion

Duane
 

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 12:26 PM, Benoît Dumeaux wrote:
Provide database embedding options to external sites
Please try to be more patient.  Some suggestions take longer than others to get on the 'important' list, if they ever do.  I know of one case where it took almost 4 years before it was deemed worthwhile to implement, but was worth the wait.  In other cases, it's not worth doing at all because it would benefit such a limited number of groups.

Duane


moderated Re: Problems replying to digest messages? #misc

 

And for the denouement, the group member, who was determined to blame this on groups.io and kept wailing to me about how she "could always reply to digests in yahoo," was in the end totally insouciant about my efforts to figure out her problem and the determination that it was a TB, not a groups.io, bug. I think she was disappointed. I told her she could report the bug to TB if she was so inclined and gave her the verbiage to describe it to them. She just shrugged it off and said, "There will be another version soon." I resisted the urge to say "you're welcome" lol.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Problems replying to digest messages? #misc

 

J,

We're way ahead of you.:) Herb G determined that it's a bug in the
most recent TB upgrade. The last version didn't do it.
So you are.

I just updated from 68.12.1 (32-bit) to 78.4.0 (32-bit) and I don't get my pop-open windows anymore. Just the blank page.

Shal


moderated Re: Problems replying to digest messages? #misc

 

On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 07:40 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
I'm more and more persuaded that this is a Thunderbird bug and not a
Groups.io bug.
You're probably right there.
We're way ahead of you.:) Herb G determined that it's a bug in the most recent TB upgrade. The last version didn't do it.
 
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu

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