Maybe use of https://crowdin.com/ can help

On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 09:46 AM, Mark Murphy wrote:

May I suggest sorting the sub-items on the Admin menu alphabetically to help in selection?

The current arrangement seems to be in order of most frequent use. I prefer it that way.

Regards,
Bruce

Thanks @Duane for introducing me to FBLs. Found this Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feedback_loop_(email)

On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 06:59 AM, West Coast Compañeros Staff wrote:

your efforts have not been in vain

OUR efforts. :)
 
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu

This is very nit-picky, but after you approve a message and unmoderate the sender simultaneously, it looks a bit jarring to see the status change logged before the message approval in the chronological list They're of course given the same time stamp, but that's not obvious without hovering. So it can look like you first unmoderated the member and then approved their message. It would be a teensy bit better if they were switched.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu

Changes to the site this week:

• DOCS: Updates from Nina
• INTERNAL: Improvements to internal admin tools and dashboards
• INTERNAL: The second mail server is now processing half of all outbound email.

Take care everyone.

Mark

On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 08:18 PM, J_Catlady wrote:

And for the denouement, the group member, who was determined to blame this on groups.io and kept wailing to me about how she "could always reply to digests in yahoo," was in the end totally insouciant about my efforts to figure out her problem and the determination that it was a TB, not a groups.io, bug.
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J

J,

No good deed goes unpunished. Fortunately, this topic may be of help to other Thunderbird users who are in the same boat, so your efforts have not been in vain.

Robert

Duane is right. ID goes back to the early days of databases where every row is assigned a unique and permanent number. One benefit is finding duplicates to remove the later entry.
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Jim

May I suggest sorting the sub-items on the Admin menu alphabetically to help in selection?

Thank you.

On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 08:19 AM, ro-esp wrote:

Click "reply to this message", click the "balloon" to quote.

That means that you're replying online, not from within TB.  That's the only place you'd get the "balloon" to quote.

Duane

On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 03:40 AM, Shal Farley wrote:

Robert,

> I'm somewhat surprised that Groups.io members who use Thunderbird,
> e.g. Shal, haven't run into this problem before. Maybe, like me, they
> rarely if ever use the digest footer links to "Reply to Group" or
> "Reply to Sender." I usually reply to individual messages using e-mail
> and use the Groups.io web interface to reply to a digest message..

Bingo.

I almost never use the footer links in either individual or digest
messages. Specifically because I inline reply with quote, as herein, and
the footer links don't give me a copy of the original message to work
with. So in individual messages I use Thunderbird's Reply button. In the
rare case of replying to a Digest I probably would go on site.

This is confusing. I do inline quoting (interspersing) all the time when replying to (plain) digests. Click "reply to this message", click the "balloon" to quote...

groetjes/ĝis, Ronaldo

Offering several more languages would be nice, but for that we'd need a list of ALL notifications and prompts used by groups.io and a way to add translations.

Does Mark have the time to create something like that? Can he hire someone to do it?

groetjes/ĝis, Ronaldo

Mark,

I wrote:

I just updated from 68.12.1 (32-bit) to 78.4.0 (32-bit) and I don't
get my pop-open windows anymore. Just the blank page.

I've done some testing and it seems to relate to the <a> element wrapped around the mailto link:

<a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"...">Reply To Group</a>
In particular, the target="_blank" attribute seems to be the troublemaker. Absent that the enclosed mailto: seems to work fine, and opens a new composition window.

That still makes it a Thunderbird bug, unless there's some reason one isn't supposed to combine target with a mailto: protocol in the href. Which seems like an unlikely restriction. But it may explain how it got through testing if that's an unusual construction.

Shal
(For those following along at home, the "=3D" sequences in the example are just equal signs, in quoted-printable form. A consequence of me copying from a view source of the HTML message body.)

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 12:26 PM, Benoît Dumeaux wrote:

Provide database embedding options to external sites

Please try to be more patient.  Some suggestions take longer than others to get on the 'important' list, if they ever do.  I know of one case where it took almost 4 years before it was deemed worthwhile to implement, but was worth the wait.  In other cases, it's not worth doing at all because it would benefit such a limited number of groups.

Duane

And for the denouement, the group member, who was determined to blame this on groups.io and kept wailing to me about how she "could always reply to digests in yahoo," was in the end totally insouciant about my efforts to figure out her problem and the determination that it was a TB, not a groups.io, bug. I think she was disappointed. I told her she could report the bug to TB if she was so inclined and gave her the verbiage to describe it to them. She just shrugged it off and said, "There will be another version soon." I resisted the urge to say "you're welcome" lol.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu

J,

We're way ahead of you.:) Herb G determined that it's a bug in the
most recent TB upgrade. The last version didn't do it.

So you are.

I just updated from 68.12.1 (32-bit) to 78.4.0 (32-bit) and I don't get my pop-open windows anymore. Just the blank page.

Shal

On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 07:40 PM, Shal Farley wrote:

I'm more and more persuaded that this is a Thunderbird bug and not a
Groups.io bug.

You're probably right there.

We're way ahead of you.:) Herb G determined that it's a bug in the most recent TB upgrade. The last version didn't do it.
 
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu

Robert,

I'm somewhat surprised that Groups.io members who use Thunderbird,
e.g. Shal, haven't run into this problem before. Maybe, like me, they
rarely if ever use the digest footer links to "Reply to Group" or
"Reply to Sender." I usually reply to individual messages using e-mail
and use the Groups.io web interface to reply to a digest message..

Bingo.

I almost never use the footer links in either individual or digest messages. Specifically because I inline reply with quote, as herein, and the footer links don't give me a copy of the original message to work with. So in individual messages I use Thunderbird's Reply button. In the rare case of replying to a Digest I probably would go on site.

I'm more and more persuaded that this is a Thunderbird bug and not a
Groups.io bug.

You're probably right there.

Thunderbird does not encode the links in the mailto: Subject line at
all. Spaces are spaces.

I don't think that's the problem. That is, I think Thunderbird is just showing you human readable form when you hover.

My experience is weirdly different though.

For me, if I'm reading the message in the preview pane (as I usually do) in either individual or digest, clicking on either the Reply to Group link or Reply to Sender, link gets me an open compose window, with the From, To, and Subject correctly filled in.

But, it also gives me a new tab on the main Thunderbird window, and that tab sits there blank with the tab label saying "Loading...".

Weirdly if I open the message into its own window I get inconsistent results, sometimes correct, sometimes absent To and Subject. So maybe the user's experience of this bug depends on some setting or view layout in Thunderbird.

Shal

On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 06:49 PM, Benoît Dumeaux wrote:

When I delete a line, the ID don't change

That's the way it works.  The ID numbers never change and are created when a new row is added.  The number is deleted when you delete a row, but they're never used again on that database.

Duane

When I delete a line, the ID don't change