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moderated Re: Cannot edit my messages anymore #bug

Andrea Grillini
 

Sorry, Chris.

I forgot to mention a practical case.
Though I expected I could edit the message and mend for that.
And, coherently, I couldn't. I attach a scrap with what action I can perform on the message.
I've never been group owner or a moderator here on groups.io, though I rembember at least once I succeeded in editing and I remeber knowing here I could edit a message afterwards was reliefing to me, since I'm often critical toward what I publish, and I'm sorry when I have to live with the mistakes or bad choices I published.

A.




On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 06:45 PM, Chris Jones wrote:
On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 05:30 PM, Andrea Grillini wrote:
I specify I already edited in recent times.
Can you possibly tell us what it is that you have not been able to edit?

Are you a group owner or moderator?

Chris


moderated Re: Can't create a freecycle group #bug

 

On 22 Oct 2020 at 19:56, Dave Wade wrote:

I am not a lawyer, but I think in the UK it would be a breach of
trademark...
Yes, Mark said the complaint he received was about breach of their UK
trademark.


moderated Re: Cannot edit my messages anymore #bug

Chris Jones
 

On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 05:30 PM, Andrea Grillini wrote:
I specify I already edited in recent times.
Can you possibly tell us what it is that you have not been able to edit?

Are you a group owner or moderator?

Chris


moderated Cannot edit my messages anymore #bug

Andrea Grillini
 

I feel kind of shy in telling about this subject, both because I arrived on groups.io only recently - I still don't feel confident using the interface - and because I expect that might be a hot topic, possibly someone else might have asked and an answer has been given, though so far I could find just old messages where the editing functionality was still debated, and, as a matter of fact, the documentation cleary states I should be able to edit.

https://groups.io/helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/managing-group-topics-and-messages/editing-the-content-of-messages-in-the

I specify I already edited in recent times. I thought there might be some sort of time limit, this is not mentioned in the documentation I pointed to, though.

Thanks!

A.


moderated Re: Free to Premium Expanse #suggestion

 

On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 04:43 AM, Sandi D wrote:
Google groups is a known service, it's stable and it's free.
I think you get what you pay for. There's a reason some of these services are "free." In google's case, I don't know the underlying mechanisms but google is trying to take over the world - witness the justified antitrust lawsuit against them - and your privacy is a total black box.

 
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Free to Premium Expanse #suggestion

Sandi D <sandi.asgtechie@...>
 

I have had 2 Google groups (under a GSuite/non profit) since 2013. I can direct add and remove members. It's an excellent mailing list and offers expansive storage for our attachments to emails. One group is used for our Board of Directors and one is for collecting and distributing publishable news items as attachments. 

Their spam filter doesn't disappoint and the group is painless to manage. Users within our group have no need to create or maintain a password. I can add users by their cell phones and email addresses which need not end in @gmail or be associated with a Google account. 

The current free version of GIO would not tempt me to move from Goodle Groups because of storage limitations, the uncertainty of future GIO pricing tiers and loss of features. Google groups is a known service, it's stable and it's free. 

I agree heartily that Google Groups is not for everyone, nor will it serve the needs of most or many. But it does have a place for us as an educational non profit with minimal revenue where we need control over members in a forum. It works quite well nested within our domain managed GSuite/Google Works framework. 

It's far from perfect but it is free and for the above reasons, I would not advise it should never be considered.

--
Sandi Dickenson
ASG Volunteers Group.


moderated Re: Features not lost after Premium Trial ends #bug

 

Hi Bruce,

On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 1:40 PM Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:

The notice I received about expiration of the trial has an upgrade link that doesn't work, and took me to the group home page instead of the upgrade page.

Also, the subgroup is not locked...I can still post messages in it.

These should be fixed now.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Free to Premium Expanse #suggestion

billsf9c
 

The "15 Gigs" number came from a.googlw member. I understand now, that he may be in error... but if that is his perception, it may be also for many. So I'm not a journalist and didn't go undercover to confirm. If 15 is the personal amount, and goggle lists have no limit, then I don't see what to write on the billboard.

I was fine with 110$. Our otherwise intelligent membership tarried and we got hit with 220... spilled milk.

When folks have suffered with bad service for so long, many forget how NICE it was when eGroups had features and they worked well. Many of us easily ignored the ads, so here, I don't even notice them missing. And many know and notice nothing of googles' privacy shattering, and cannot comprehend it if explained.

But I sure want a way to entice a couple groups over. And after 18 years, I'll dislike in 4 years cleaning house because the next.jump is not a small amount but 19x more than what took us 20 years to accumulate.

As text here is not counted against us, maybe I can make the case that memory is unlimited, with an additional Gig for Photos and attachments.

Thanks for the time everyone has spent on this issue. Now and then I help a small mechanics business. You want the Edsel. 😏🤣
BillSF9c


moderated Re: Features not lost after Premium Trial ends #bug

Bruce Bowman
 

On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 12:53 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Thanks for pointing this out. It's been fixed.
Mark -- Well, not completely.

The notice I received about expiration of the trial has an upgrade link that doesn't work, and took me to the group home page instead of the upgrade page.

Also, the subgroup is not locked...I can still post messages in it.

Thanks,
Bruce 


moderated Re: Bottom Menu bar missing from latest posts in beta Topics view? #bug

Jim Wilson
 

Indeed, IS was the likely culprit.

Thanks to Mark for getting it fixed.
--
Jim


moderated Re: Can't create a freecycle group #bug

Dave Wade
 

am not sure why they haven't been migrated to the Freecycle platform.

Not sure of your basis for saying Freegle groups are dwindling. I was
moved
semi-automatically to Freegle, using my existing Freecycle login details,
when
our local Freegle group started, but found the Freecycle group still
remained
active. I find, though, that I still receive about ten times as many
messages
from Freegle as I do from Freecycle.
I think I was moved automatically as well and initially I got lots on
Freegle, but I can't remember when I last saw a Freegle offer.
I checked and my account is still active, and in Trafford there are three
offers from the last 24 hours. In freecycle its three in the last hour.
However I would expect activity to vary from area to area...


Given the reasons behind the creating of Freegle I suspect some kind
of internal politics, but I am sure that Freecycle will claim
"ownership" of any group that purports to use part of its name and
offer re-cycling services.....
Yes, you're probably right there, but that clearly does not include
Freegle. I
would have my doubts about names that sound the same as or similar to
Freecycle, such as Phreecycle that I think someone mentioned.
I am not a lawyer, but I think in the UK it would be a breach of
trademark...


Jim


moderated Re: Can't create a freecycle group #bug

 

On 21 Oct 2020 at 22:11, Dave Wade wrote:

Jim,

Where I live, we have both Freecycle and Freegle. Freegle was started in the uk
because some folks didn't agree with some Freecycle policies. e.g. Living
Creatures are not allowed on Freecycle but they are and anything legal is OK on
Freegle. Whilst Freegle got off to good start it now seems to have withered and
almost died. I believe that both started by using Yahoo groups but now they have
their own dedicated systems. Freecycle is trademarked and groups have to be
properly affiliated and use the Freecycle systems, so I believe it is correct to
refuse to create groups with Freecycle in the name. I suspect existing groups
were migrated from the existing Yahoo groups but I am not sure why they haven't
been migrated to the Freecycle platform.
Not sure of your basis for saying Freegle groups are dwindling. I was moved
semi-automatically to Freegle, using my existing Freecycle login details, when
our local Freegle group started, but found the Freecycle group still remained
active. I find, though, that I still receive about ten times as many messages
from Freegle as I do from Freecycle.

Given the reasons behind the creating of Freegle I suspect some kind of
internal politics, but I am sure that Freecycle will claim "ownership" of
any group that purports to use part of its name and offer re-cycling
services.....
Yes, you're probably right there, but that clearly does not include Freegle. I
would have my doubts about names that sound the same as or similar to
Freecycle, such as Phreecycle that I think someone mentioned.

Jim


moderated Re: Bottom Menu bar missing from latest posts in beta Topics view? #bug

 

On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 7:44 AM Jim Wilson via groups.io <groupsio=texnetsys.com@groups.io> wrote:
I was looking at beta Topic "Free to Premium Expanse" and noticed messages after 26548 are missing the bottom menu bar. It shows when you click on the Message number and view the individual message, however. It's the same in FF and Chrome.

This has been fixed.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Features not lost after Premium Trial ends #bug

 

On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 8:40 AM Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:
I created a Premium Trial group (groups.io/g/ikc) on Sept 5 and a subgroup on Sept 8. The trial period has since ended but all Premium features have been retained and the subgroup is not locked.

Thanks for pointing this out. It's been fixed.

Mark 


moderated Re: Features not lost after Premium Trial ends #bug

 

Shhh! 😁  Don't tell Mark!


On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 8:40 AM Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:
I created a Premium Trial group (groups.io/g/ikc) on Sept 5 and a subgroup on Sept 8. The trial period has since ended but all Premium features have been retained and the subgroup is not locked.

FYI,
Bruce


--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Features not lost after Premium Trial ends #bug

Bruce Bowman
 

I created a Premium Trial group (groups.io/g/ikc) on Sept 5 and a subgroup on Sept 8. The trial period has since ended but all Premium features have been retained and the subgroup is not locked.

FYI,
Bruce


moderated Re: Bottom Menu bar missing from latest posts in beta Topics view? #bug

Chris Jones
 

On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 04:11 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
Are you using infinite scroll?
Bruce; I suspect he is. I have just tried Infinite Scroll and got the same result that Jim reported. A test on "100" was OK.

Back to "20"...

Chris


moderated Re: Bottom Menu bar missing from latest posts in beta Topics view? #bug

Bruce Bowman
 

On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 10:44 AM, Jim Wilson wrote:
I was looking at beta Topic "Free to Premium Expanse" and noticed messages after 26548 are missing the bottom menu bar.
Jim/Chris -- I'm not seeing this, either.

Are you using infinite scroll? It seems to be a problem child.

Bruce


moderated Group email address #suggestion

Bruce Bowman
 

Mark -- An easy one, for a change. 

The Group Email Address is limited to 34 characters. It would be handy if the comment text immediately below the entry field said that.

This one comes up on GMF every now and then, usually in the context of changing an existing address.

Thanks,
Bruce


moderated Re: Bottom Menu bar missing from latest posts in beta Topics view? #bug

Chris Jones
 

On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 03:44 PM, Jim Wilson wrote:
...messages after 26548 are missing the bottom menu bar.
For the avoidance of doubt do you mean the Reply / Like / More bar?

If yes, then it's OK with me, using Win 10 and FF.

Chris

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