On Oct 20, 2020, at 9:43 AM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:



Hi All,

I've spent a bunch of time researching this and trying to reproduce it. Here is what I believe is the bug:

- Using Firefox (it's not reproducible in Chrome or Safari), start a reply to a message.

- Navigate to another page or site.

- Go to the drafts page and click the draft to continue editing it.

- Make a change in the draft.

- Navigate to another page or site.

- Hit the back button to return to the draft.

- See that your change is no longer there.

I don't know if or when I'll be able to figure out how to fix it. In the meantime, you have a couple options: 

- Don't use Firefox

- Don't use the back button to return to a draft reply.

Thanks,

Mark

On Oct 20, 2020, at 9:16 AM, Leeni <leeniluvsgroups2@...> wrote:



I will check the activity now to see what email addresses they are using.   When I got an email to the owner, I would write the member and tell them to resend it. Then the same thing would happen again.    I will report back my findings.          -------Original Message-------   From: J_Catlady Date: 10/20/2020 11:05:52 AM To: main@beta.groups.io Subject: Re: [beta] Rewrite "From" address to match group address in certain cases when user is running Windows 10 and aol or verizon email #suggestion   On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 08:51 AM, Leeni wrote: I was wondering why I have been getting a lot of messages to me as owner It took me quite a long time to narrow this down. I ran a bunch of "reply" experiments in my group, and members were willing to be the guinea pigs. Eventually I narrowed it down to verizon or aol users on a PC. Some people in this thread (I think Bruce) helped by pointing out the problem with the Windows 10 email program regarding addresses. If you check, I think you'll find this is happening with your group members who are using verizon or aol email on PCs. They are probably totally unaware their messages aren't posting. I would bet money this is happening in many, MANY groups all over the place and neither the owners nor the members are even aware of it. You can reply and everything looks normal. The subject of the thread looks normal, as if everything is going to and from the group. You have to look closely at the email address and/or fail to find the message(s) on the site to even know there's a problem.   -- J Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones. My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu

On Oct 20, 2020, at 8:04 AM, Marv Waschke <marv@...> wrote:

It appears to me that there is either a bug, or at least difficult to predict behavior, lurking here somewhere. However, I have to say that I gave up on online drafts in all applications, not just gio, long ago in self-defense. Defects and unpredictable behavior in this area are everywhere. As a habit, I draft any writing of any length locally, usually in Word. Life is too short and humans too frail for me to expect perfect code. Best, Marv

On Oct 20, 2020, at 6:42 AM, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:

On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 11:31 PM, J_Catlady wrote:

Three, maybe even four times tonight I've worked on a detailed draft of a message, gone outside the composition window to look something up, and come back to find the draft entirely gone except for the original first sentence.

J - Here's an idea, portions of which may be in error. If so, I'm sure Mark will correct me.

Asynchronous communication between the client and host (I believe groups.io uses jQuery) depends on certain actionable activities. Typing in the editor is not one of them -- sending every keystroke would take too much bandwidth. So those edits are cached locally. I don't know exactly what actions cause a draft to be saved, but it would make sense that if it only happens when you click away from the editor in that browser tab. If such an action occurs when you're not connected, logged out, or you otherwise manage to clear the cached changes, the intervening edits are lost.

Unlike GIO, my webmail forces me to log into the provider's portal at least once a day. I have often hit "send" only to discover that the login expired while composing the message, losing everything I'd written. It's irritating.

Hope this helps,
Bruce