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Re: Message Cam Be Approved While Another Owner is Rejecting
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On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 01:59 PM, Ed Moser wrote:
There's no way to resolve this, especially If one owner is using email and another is going online. I don't know of any way to control that outcome. As J said, for online, to claim you could hit edit, then immediately cancel so no changes are made, then create a rejection message. Many groups that have multiple owner/mods will designate one to handle things, sometimes per 'shift', sometimes per day/week/month. It can delay some approvals, but prevents the situation you have. Duane
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Re: Message Cam Be Approved While Another Owner is Rejecting
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You can "claim" a message, but at this point, that can only be done indirectly, by starting to edit it. If you start to edit a pending message, it will show up in the pending message list as "claimed" by you. That doesn't prevent other moderators from acting on it, but does give them a heads up.
Unfortunately, you can't "claim" a message directly, like you can a pending member. Expanding that to pending messages seems like a good idea. -- J Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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Message Cam Be Approved While Another Owner is Rejecting
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Ed Moser
I have had this happen several times.
All our members are Moderated. We have multiple Owners in our group.
We get notification that a message is waiting approval.
I go to the message and select Reject. While I am composing my rejection notice another Owner can approve the message.
Upon completing my reason for rejecting the message I click on Reject and get the following message:
"The pending message has already been approved or rejected."
Thank you for your assistance.
Ed Moser
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Re: Site updates
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On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 05:02 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
SYSADMIN: More work to bring up the second email server; working to get Microsoft to stop rate-limiting it.That may explain why I'm getting notifications to approve pending messages and memberships hours after I've already seen and done them via the web. My last membership approval was done at 22:05 on Friday night and the email notification saying it had been requested arrived at 14:06 on Saturday (all times BST). Andy
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incorrect bounces
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Phil Karn
I've had my email feeds cut off several times recently because groups.io incorrectly concluded that my email was bouncing. My domain name (ka9q.net) has MX records pointing at gmail's mail servers along with an A (IPv4) address record pointing at my web server. What's happening is that groups.io occasionally fails to resolve the MX records and attempts to deliver email to the SMTP server on my web hosting site, which isn't set up to handle it. This wouldn't be so bad if there was an easy way to have groups.io resend all pending emails when I tell it to "unbounce" me.
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Re: Past Members on Mobile are Garbled
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Hi, Thanks for the fast fix. Unfortunately it is not fully fixed. One more small mod and it is done.
Thank you, Raphael The quick fix: (Ok for Landscape but not Portrait) The fix of the bug solved the problem when viewed on mobile phone screen in "landscape mode", The fix was achieved by simply removing subscribers name and the "Date left" thus making more room in the line. I'm ok with that. It seems an obscure corner of groups.IO anyway. Clicking the link "History" gives a complete story and dates. The full fix: (outstanding) When viewed on a mobile screen in PORTRAIT mode the link "History" still obscures the email address. You have the problem that again you run out of real estate on the screen display. Suggested fix: (Portrait & Landscape mode on mobile phone display) Turn the "Reason" column in to an active link. (ie. The link that goes to "History"). Keep the Reason words themselves. Remove the word "History" thus generating real estate on the display. Conclusion: The suggested fix produces a consistent (same) result whether viewed in Landscape or Portrait mode. Functionality is transferred to the more full "History" link where all activity is shown already. (ie User Name, email, activity , reason, date) As always. Thanks for looking. Raphael
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Site updates
#changelog
Changes to the site this week:
Take care everyone. Mark
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Re: Downgrading to monthly billing overcharges
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On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 04:39 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
Mark said if you’re legacy and you switch from monthly to yearly, you keep the legacy pricing.BUT, if later switch back to monthly, you lose it (as things are now.) Duane
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Re: Downgrading to monthly billing overcharges
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Bruce,
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Mark said if you’re legacy and you switch from monthly to yearly, you keep the legacy pricing.
On Oct 9, 2020, at 2:01 PM, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:
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J Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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Re: Downgrading to monthly billing overcharges
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On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 12:08 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
There was no such confirmation dialog (that I noticed). Again, no. Is this done as a popup? I have a popup blocker on my browser. A lot of groups signed up for a year of Premium in order to get transferred. Those agreements are expiring now (Oct 22), and this is a new twist that some didn't see coming. The inquiry made in GMF was whether a legacy group could switch to monthly at $10/month. The one posing the question wanted to keep his Premium features without having quickly do some fundraising (or front the money and get reimbursed). A related [and perhaps rhetorical] question: If J was to change her plan to Premium Yearly (she's currently on month-to-month), would her payment be $220? To be honest, I see little reason why a group on legacy Premium shouldn't be able to freely switch between monthly and annual billing without penalty...as long as they never drop down to Basic. Thanks Mark...I was confident that you would treat me right. Regards, Bruce
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Re: Downgrading to monthly billing overcharges
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Hi Bruce, On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 5:18 PM Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote: In response to an inquiry in GMF, I downgraded my plan from Premium yearly (legacy $110) to Premium monthly for our group ias-indy. I did this on the premise that the downgrade would not actually occur until my paid-up plan period was completed. You would not start to be charged monthly until your year was up, April 24, 2021. When you switched to monthly, you should have seen a confirmation dialog that said "Switch to monthly billing at $20/month? You will be billed on 4/24/21." Imagine my surprise when not only did the downgrade happen immediately, when I switched back I was immediately charged another $220! When you then switched to yearly billing, you should have seen a confirmation dialog that said "Switch to yearly billing at $220/year? You will be billed immediately." You were then billed for a year immediately, at $220, and your next billing date was incremented from April 24, 2021 to April 24, 2022. For legacy premium groups, if you switch from monthly to yearly billing, you keep the legacy pricing. If you switch from yearly to monthly, it goes to the $20/month pricing. If you downgrade to free and then upgrade later, you will be at the new pricing. I believe this is consistent with how other services work (you could make the argument that switching from monthly to yearly should trigger the new pricing for consistency as well, I suppose). I have refunded your $220 charge and rolled back your next invoice date to April 24, 2021. The refund will appear on your statement in 5-10 days. In addition, I have reverted your annual price to $110. Please let me know if there's anything I can do to make things more clear. I'm certainly not trying to fool anyone. Thanks, Mark
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Re: Downgrading to monthly billing overcharges
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On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 08:37 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
Question unrelated to your issue: how is yearly to monthly payment a downgrade?I called it that only for lack of a better term. I have been paying monthly (legacy $10) since forever and (mostly out of laziness) have never switched to yearly.I thought the "downgrade" would temporarily take me to what you have -- $10/month -- but it didn't. That was exactly the basis for the GMF inquiry that I was investigating. I was never aware there was any difference in features. Is there, since you’re calling it a downgrade?Not that I noticed, but I frankly got a little alarmed, and didn't remain there long enough to really check it out. Regards, Bruce
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Re: Downgrading to monthly billing overcharges
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Question unrelated to your issue: how is yearly to monthly payment a downgrade? I have been paying monthly (legacy $10) since forever and (mostly out of laziness) have never switched to yearly. I waa never aware there was any difference in features. Is there, since you’re calling it a downgrade?
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-- J Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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Downgrading to monthly billing overcharges
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In response to an inquiry in GMF, I downgraded my plan from Premium yearly (legacy $110) to Premium monthly for our group ias-indy. I did this on the premise that the downgrade would not actually occur until my paid-up plan period was completed.
Imagine my surprise when not only did the downgrade happen immediately, when I switched back I was immediately charged another $220! Please refund my $220 and reinstate me into the Premium yearly legacy plan to expire April 24, 2021. Thanks, Bruce
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Re: receiving owner emails even though "owner emails" set to "none"
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Nope. It looks like she sent it directly to the group after being approved, for some reason. But good to know.
-- J Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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Re: receiving owner emails even though "owner emails" set to "none"
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On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 06:51 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
I had received a response to a pending member notice in that group ,which normally would just be an owner email, but for some reason it had actually posted it to the group.Was it from a btinternet.com address? Under some circumstances btinternet.com strips the +owner part of the address and the message gets sent to the group instead. More details at https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/34125793 Regards, Bruce
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Re: receiving owner emails even though "owner emails" set to "none"
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Mark, forget about it. I had received a response to a pending member notice in that group ,which normally would just be an owner email, but for some reason it had actually posted it to the group. So it was a group message. I just ran a test of sending an owner email to the group myself and did not receive it.
No bug. -- J Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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Re: receiving owner emails even though "owner emails" set to "none"
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On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 03:30 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
Could you be confusing +owner emails with notificationsNo. -- J Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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Re: receiving owner emails even though "owner emails" set to "none"
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On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 05:43 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
I just went into my subscription in one of the groups I'm a moderator in to set my "owner emails" to "none," but it was already set to that even though I've been receiving owner emails. Possibly a small glitch there.Could you be confusing +owner emails with notifications? I get them turned around in my head sometimes. Bruce
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receiving owner emails even though "owner emails" set to "none"
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I just went into my subscription in one of the groups I'm a moderator in to set my "owner emails" to "none," but it was already set to that even though I've been receiving owner emails. Possibly a small glitch there. (I have not been receiving owner emails lately in another group I'm a mod in, which was also already set to "none"; but I don't think there have been any recently in that group, or at least since I set it to "none.") Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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