On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 04:39 PM, Chris Jones wrote:

On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 03:49 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

This post was prompted by a question that was recently asked in GMF.

I made the same request in April 2018; see #16576.

Chris

... and I did in May (2020)  - see #25135

Any others?

Jeremy

I’ve never had drafts disappear before yesterday. They’d always, up until then,been saved automatically the moment I started typing. I would definitely not want to have to save them manually. The automatic saving of drafts is a great (and IMO needed) feature, and came about through need.

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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu

I have found - over the years - that half written messages in groups.io have a tendancy to disappear - while there is an automatic feature to save draft messages, I have never quite understood quite when it actually would do so; and would much prefer to have a manual option...

Jeremy

That would be very helpful for my group too
Thanks
Beth

I now can't reproduce this. Did anyone else experience it? I had to use two windows on groups.io, one for my ongoing draft and one fo look up other things (because the draft kept disappearing), but after finally sending the message, I went into my test group to try to reproduce the bug and couldn't.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu

Three, maybe even four times tonight I've worked on a detailed draft of a message, gone outside the composition window to look something up, and come back to find the draft entirely gone except for the original first sentence.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu

I own a group that is used by the Board of Directors of a national organization and we cast our votes using polls. As the Secretary of the organization, I would love the ability to schedule polls as we always vote after a 48 hour discussion period.
Gina

Further to this, I did a resend of a pending member notice to a pending member at 7:39 this morning (according to the log) and then checked the person's email delivery history to see if it had gone through. (I always check this because when a person doesn't return the questionnaire and I have to resend, I become concerned about whether they've been receiving the notices.) It hadn't. I checked the log a couple of minutes later and it is showing as delivered at 7:41. I think these used to go through immediately, or near immediately.  Of course two minutes is not a significant delay in terms of functionality, but it is odd. Just a data point.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu

On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 12:12 AM, Michael Pavan wrote:

I thought +1 was just the 'email way' of liking a post.
That's the first time it got posted instead.

I was kinda surprised to see that, too.

We already have editing of Pending and Archived Posts...
I typically use it, as I believe you and other Moderators of GMF do:
to delete excessive quoting,
and more rarely to remove or sanitize offensive or inappropriate content.

Not saying that I wouldn't use it if available. :-)

Perhaps the better way to accomplish what Jim suggested would be a control of what file types can be attached.

That, or extend the audit trail [that already exists for messages in the archive] to include any changes made while in pending status.

Regards,
Bruce

Being on several groups with over enthusiastic moderators who delete
virtually all quoting leaving my messages totally out of context for
email recipients this is a practice that irks me enormously. What I
post on groups is what I want to see published. If the moderator
doesn't like any accidental excess quoting he should tell me not to do
it the next time not just delete what he doesn't like.There may be a
case for COMPRESSING large attachments but anything else is totally
wrong.

Dave

On 28 Sep 2020 at 0:12, Michael Pavan wrote:

We already have editing of Pending and Archived Posts...
I typically use it, as I believe you and other Moderators of GMF do: to
delete excessive quoting, and more rarely to remove or sanitize
offensive or inappropriate content.

http://davesergeant.com

On Sep 27, 2020, at 9:52 PM, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@tds.net> wrote:

On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 11:33 PM, Michael Pavan wrote:
+1

I thought +1 was just the 'email way' of liking a post.
That's the first time it got posted instead.

Sorry, but I gotta say -1. I have nothing against Jim's use case, but the ability to edit other people's posts is itself a slippery slope, and here we go sliding even further down it.

We already have editing of Pending and Archived Posts...
I typically use it, as I believe you and other Moderators of GMF do:
to delete excessive quoting,
and more rarely to remove or sanitize offensive or inappropriate content.

Perhaps the better way to accomplish what Jim suggested would be a control of what file types can be attached.

On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 11:33 PM, Michael Pavan wrote:

+1

Sorry, but I gotta say -1. I have nothing against Jim's use case, but the ability to edit other people's posts is itself a slippery slope, and here we go sliding even further down it.

Regards,
Bruce

+1

It would be nice if the "Edit pending message" function allowed a moderator to add as well as delete attachments.

For example, we want only PDF attachments, not .docx etc. and it would be helpful if a moderator could convert an attachment if it is not the desired form before approving the message.  That would require being able to add new attachments to the message.   Currently is is only possible delete an existing attachment.

(Yes, we ask people to convert to PDF before attaching to posts, but some don't know how and frankly are unlikely to learn because they know nothing but their 10-year-old copy of MS Word  :-|

Mark,

I'm seeing similar delay behavior in message approvals (via emal) today to what I saw when there was the email delay problem. For example, I approved a message via email and it had not gone through within several minutes. I eventually had to go to the site to approve it, and by that time other messages in the thread had already gone through that made it somewhat obsolete. I probably would not have bothered to report this except that I know there was the other delay problem prior to this, and perhaps they are related.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu

Andy,

Reread the 21 Sept message. . .  status.groups.io is listed under the section, "Changes Still to be Made."  

Give the man some time to implement it.

Rob

Thank you, Chris.

What is "status.groups.io"?

When I go there, it says (among other things):

    Sep 20, 2020
    No incidents reported.

Seriously?

I guess you're saying things get reported only when you manually enter them, which tends to be never.  Got it.

Andy

On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 02:20 PM, Alan Epstein wrote:

With members, mine gives a long rolling list, whereas my colleague sees a shorter list with the nav control at the bottom. Not sure why we should be seeing differently unless it has to do with him being owner of a paid account.

Probably because you have different Items per Page settings under Preferences in your Account settings. These settings are account - wide and not per group.

Chris

Thanks, Mark! That's a big help.

I think this bug may inhabit a few other places, such as the Groups list and Members list. With members, mine gives a long rolling list, whereas my colleague sees a shorter list with the nav control at the bottom. Not sure why we should be seeing differently unless it has to do with him being owner of a paid account.

_Alan