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moderated Re: delay in approvals of pending messages #bug

 

Further to this, I did a resend of a pending member notice to a pending member at 7:39 this morning (according to the log) and then checked the person's email delivery history to see if it had gone through. (I always check this because when a person doesn't return the questionnaire and I have to resend, I become concerned about whether they've been receiving the notices.) It hadn't. I checked the log a couple of minutes later and it is showing as delivered at 7:41. I think these used to go through immediately, or near immediately.  Of course two minutes is not a significant delay in terms of functionality, but it is odd. Just a data point.
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moderated Re: #suggestion Allow add/replace of attachments when editing messages (not just delete) #suggestion

Bruce Bowman
 

On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 12:12 AM, Michael Pavan wrote:
I thought +1 was just the 'email way' of liking a post.
That's the first time it got posted instead.
I was kinda surprised to see that, too.

We already have editing of Pending and Archived Posts...
I typically use it, as I believe you and other Moderators of GMF do:
to delete excessive quoting,
and more rarely to remove or sanitize offensive or inappropriate content.
Not saying that I wouldn't use it if available. :-)

Perhaps the better way to accomplish what Jim suggested would be a control of what file types can be attached.
That, or extend the audit trail [that already exists for messages in the archive] to include any changes made while in pending status.

Regards,
Bruce


moderated Re: #suggestion Allow add/replace of attachments when editing messages (not just delete) #suggestion

Dave Sergeant
 

Being on several groups with over enthusiastic moderators who delete
virtually all quoting leaving my messages totally out of context for
email recipients this is a practice that irks me enormously. What I
post on groups is what I want to see published. If the moderator
doesn't like any accidental excess quoting he should tell me not to do
it the next time not just delete what he doesn't like.There may be a
case for COMPRESSING large attachments but anything else is totally
wrong.

Dave

On 28 Sep 2020 at 0:12, Michael Pavan wrote:

We already have editing of Pending and Archived Posts...
I typically use it, as I believe you and other Moderators of GMF do: to
delete excessive quoting, and more rarely to remove or sanitize
offensive or inappropriate content.

http://davesergeant.com


moderated Re: #suggestion Allow add/replace of attachments when editing messages (not just delete) #suggestion

Michael Pavan
 

On Sep 27, 2020, at 9:52 PM, Bruce Bowman <@BruceBowman> wrote:

On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 11:33 PM, Michael Pavan wrote:
+1
I thought +1 was just the 'email way' of liking a post.
That's the first time it got posted instead.

Sorry, but I gotta say -1. I have nothing against Jim's use case, but the ability to edit other people's posts is itself a slippery slope, and here we go sliding even further down it.
We already have editing of Pending and Archived Posts...
I typically use it, as I believe you and other Moderators of GMF do:
to delete excessive quoting,
and more rarely to remove or sanitize offensive or inappropriate content.

Perhaps the better way to accomplish what Jim suggested would be a control of what file types can be attached.


moderated Re: #suggestion Allow add/replace of attachments when editing messages (not just delete) #suggestion

Bruce Bowman
 

On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 11:33 PM, Michael Pavan wrote:
+1
Sorry, but I gotta say -1. I have nothing against Jim's use case, but the ability to edit other people's posts is itself a slippery slope, and here we go sliding even further down it.

Regards,
Bruce


moderated Re: #suggestion Allow add/replace of attachments when editing messages (not just delete) #suggestion

Michael Pavan
 

+1



moderated #suggestion Allow add/replace of attachments when editing messages (not just delete) #suggestion

Jim Avera
 

It would be nice if the "Edit pending message" function allowed a moderator to add as well as delete attachments.

For example, we want only PDF attachments, not .docx etc. and it would be helpful if a moderator could convert an attachment if it is not the desired form before approving the message.  That would require being able to add new attachments to the message.   Currently is is only possible delete an existing attachment.

(Yes, we ask people to convert to PDF before attaching to posts, but some don't know how and frankly are unlikely to learn because they know nothing but their 10-year-old copy of MS Word  :-|


moderated delay in approvals of pending messages #bug

 

Mark,

I'm seeing similar delay behavior in message approvals (via emal) today to what I saw when there was the email delay problem. For example, I approved a message via email and it had not gone through within several minutes. I eventually had to go to the site to approve it, and by that time other messages in the thread had already gone through that made it somewhat obsolete. I probably would not have bothered to report this except that I know there was the other delay problem prior to this, and perhaps they are related.
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moderated Re: Downtime on Monday, September 21, 2020 #postmortem

RCardona
 

Andy,

Reread the 21 Sept message. . .  status.groups.io is listed under the section, "Changes Still to be Made."  

Give the man some time to implement it.

Rob


On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 05:18 PM, Andy wrote:
What is "status.groups.io"?
When I go there, it says (among other things):
    Sep 20, 2020
    No incidents reported.

Seriously?
I guess you're saying things get reported only when you manually enter them, which tends to be never.  Got it.

Andy


moderated Re: Activity log navlinks hidden #fixed #bug

Alan Epstein
 

Thank you, Chris.


moderated Re: Downtime on Monday, September 21, 2020 #postmortem

Andy
 

What is "status.groups.io"?

When I go there, it says (among other things):

    Sep 20, 2020
    No incidents reported.

Seriously?

I guess you're saying things get reported only when you manually enter them, which tends to be never.  Got it.

Andy


moderated Re: Activity log navlinks hidden #fixed #bug

Chris Jones
 

On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 02:20 PM, Alan Epstein wrote:
With members, mine gives a long rolling list, whereas my colleague sees a shorter list with the nav control at the bottom. Not sure why we should be seeing differently unless it has to do with him being owner of a paid account.
Probably because you have different Items per Page settings under Preferences in your Account settings. These settings are account - wide and not per group.

Chris


moderated Re: Activity log navlinks hidden #fixed #bug

Alan Epstein
 

Thanks, Mark! That's a big help.

I think this bug may inhabit a few other places, such as the Groups list and Members list. With members, mine gives a long rolling list, whereas my colleague sees a shorter list with the nav control at the bottom. Not sure why we should be seeing differently unless it has to do with him being owner of a paid account.

_Alan


moderated Site updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site this week:

  • BUGFIX: For people with infinite scroll set, pagination was missing on the subgroup direct add page.
  • INTERNAL: More work in transitioning to quicktemplate.
  • CHANGE: Notification messages no longer obey group moderation settings, only hashtag moderation settings. This makes them consistent with #cal-invite notices and integration messages.
  • CHANGE: Pending notification messages no longer are tagged as Integration messages and are now tagged with a Notification badge.
  • CHANGE: Notification messages now are sent with an envelope sender of noreply@groups.io, to be more consistent with other automated messages.
  • CHANGE: Various message activity log messages were re-worded for notifications.
  • BUGFIX: Could not delete a specific wiki page revision.
  • BUGFIX: In the activity log, we were not shortening some messages that we should have been.
  • BUGFIX: Sorting in the Files search results page now works the same as the Files section.
  • BUGFIX: Clicking No on the Follow Topic page would still cause you to follow the topic. Also, cleaned up the page and fixed two references to thread.
  • BUGFIX: Newly uploaded files were not being indexed in the search cluster.
  • BUGFIX: In the Files section, even if you didn't have permission to upload a file, you could still bring up the File Upload dialog box (but the upload would fail).
  • BUGFIX: If a user knew the URL for a database table, they could view it even if they didn't have permission to do so.
  • BUGFIX: Our new DNS server was not answering CNAME queries with appropriate A records. This prevented status.groups.io from resolving.
  • BUGFIX: There were some semicolon escaping issues when we generated ICS files. This would cause Google Calendar to not parse the files correctly.

Take care everyone.

Mark


moderated Re: (revised) file upload notification requires pending message approvel for uploaders on mod #bug

Glenn Glazer
 

On 9/25/2020 15:31, Mark Fletcher wrote:
On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 3:27 PM Glenn Glazer <glenn.glazer@...> wrote:
On 9/25/2020 14:43, Mark Fletcher wrote:

- CHANGE: Notification messages no longer obey group moderation settings, only hashtag moderation settings. This makes them consistent with #cal-invite notices and integration messages.

This is hopefully something that I wanted, but to be sure, if I leave #file-notice unmoderated, then the upload notice generated by the "Notify Members" box on the upload will be unmoderated regardless of who uploads it. Is that correct?

Yes.


Mark 

Awesome, you're the best.

Best,

Glenn

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moderated Re: (revised) file upload notification requires pending message approvel for uploaders on mod #bug

 

On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 3:27 PM Glenn Glazer <glenn.glazer@...> wrote:
On 9/25/2020 14:43, Mark Fletcher wrote:

- CHANGE: Notification messages no longer obey group moderation settings, only hashtag moderation settings. This makes them consistent with #cal-invite notices and integration messages.

This is hopefully something that I wanted, but to be sure, if I leave #file-notice unmoderated, then the upload notice generated by the "Notify Members" box on the upload will be unmoderated regardless of who uploads it. Is that correct?

Yes.


Mark 


moderated Re: (revised) file upload notification requires pending message approvel for uploaders on mod #bug

Glenn Glazer
 

On 9/25/2020 14:43, Mark Fletcher wrote:

- CHANGE: Notification messages no longer obey group moderation settings, only hashtag moderation settings. This makes them consistent with #cal-invite notices and integration messages.

This is hopefully something that I wanted, but to be sure, if I leave #file-notice unmoderated, then the upload notice generated by the "Notify Members" box on the upload will be unmoderated regardless of who uploads it. Is that correct?

Best,

Glenn

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moderated Re: (revised) file upload notification requires pending message approvel for uploaders on mod #bug

 

Looks like a home run. Thanks!
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moderated Re: Activity log navlinks hidden #fixed #bug

 

On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 10:20 AM Alan Epstein <ade26g@...> wrote:
Thanks, Mark.

Here's a scrunched down screenshot. The red oval shows where I would expect the nav control to get to the 400 other members. Another admin on this account can see them, but I can't. And it's consistent in other groups. I've tried it on Mac, PC, Firefox and Chrome.

This has been fixed.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: (revised) file upload notification requires pending message approvel for uploaders on mod #bug

 

Hello,

I've made the following changes:

- CHANGE: Notification messages no longer obey group moderation settings, only hashtag moderation settings. This makes them consistent with #cal-invite notices and integration messages.
- CHANGE: Pending notification messages no longer are tagged as `Integration` messages and are now tagged with a `Notification` badge.
- CHANGE: Notification messages now are sent with an envelope sender of noreply@groups.io, to be more consistent with other automated messages.
- CHANGE: Various message activity log messages were re-worded for notifications.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks,
Mark