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moderated Re: Pending message stuck after email address change #bug

Andy Wedge
 

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 11:08 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Approving the message now, because he is currently confirmed, would work.
Thanks. I won't approve this particular message now as our member has already reposted it but I'll take you on your word that it would work.

Andy


moderated Re: Add back Active checkbox to Invite and Direct Add member notices #suggestion

Bruce Bowman
 

Works great! Thanks!

Bruce


moderated Re: Add back Active checkbox to Invite and Direct Add member notices #suggestion

 

Hi All,

I've added back the ability to mark an invite or direct add member notice as the active one. Please let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: #suggestion Add a Pricing tier between Basic (free) and Premium #suggestion

Sandi D <sandi.asgtechie@...>
 

Pati, 

Your suggestion makes a lot of sense and I do hope it will be considered. I am also on the board of our Home Owner Association. Out HOA is not a profit making organization and GIO is the perfect venue to save meeting minutes, bylaws, announce meetings and discuss topics. Having the option to pay for more GB than the free level offers would be quite useful.

You are so correct about the many small organizations worldwide that are in need of a product like GIO. They need more than the basic option but do not need all the services offered in the $20 a month option and the $20 a month, is too high for them. 

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Sandi Dickenson
ASG Volunteers Group.


moderated Re: Hashtag Permissions setting is misleading #bug

Bruce Bowman
 

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 12:57 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
The message should be held in pending form for the original sender, not the moderator. And they should get an email telling them to edit the message.
Mark -- Interesting. I didn't even think to try it as a mere Member.

If a Member does it, it's held as a draft as you mention above. But if a Moderator does it, it's held in moderation (pending) as I originally posted. Seems a little more complicated than necessary, but is certainly acceptable.

This only applies to messages sent via email, as if you try to post a message from the website with a new hashtag, it'll give you an error message right then.
Right.

So, yeah, using the word Bounced is not accurate. Suggestions appreciated.
I find Duane's suggestion to be acceptable [read: I'm struggling to come up with anything better]. If too long, replace "saved as a draft" with "held."

Thanks,
Bruce


moderated Re: #suggestion Add a Pricing tier between Basic (free) and Premium #suggestion

Peter Cook
 

This doesn't seem like the place to have a discussion about the fundamentals of non-profits. (And I regret my own previous participation.)

Pete


moderated Re: Pending message stuck after email address change #bug

 

On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 6:32 AM Andy Wedge <andy_wedge@...> wrote:

one of our members sent a message to our moderated group. My co-owner claimed it and was checking it before approval. In the mean-time, the member changed his email address and we now have a message that we cannot approve (we have not tried deleting it yet so you have evidence of the issue).  It may be that the message was claimed part way through the email address change process when the new address/account was in NC status - I am not sure if that would make a difference or not.

It handles all that fine, so I was confused as to what happened. Looking at the logs, when the pending message was approved, the member was not confirmed, which caused an error (which was not shown on the website, which isn't great). Approving the message now, because he is currently confirmed, would work.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Add back Active checkbox to Invite and Direct Add member notices #suggestion

Drew
 

This happened in our group. We only just realized that our custom text was no longer being included in invitations. The person who sends the bulk of invitations in our organization is not otherwise involved in administrative tasks in the group; but the change was also overlooked by by owners/moderators who sent occasional invitations over the past year.

Yes, please do implement an option for an "active" template for invitations so that the custom text will be included by default.



Drew

On 09/15/20 20:13, Bruce Bowman wrote:
Mark -- I'm resurrecting this thread because the problem came up again in GMF. Apparently there are several groups out there who didn't notice the change in mid 2019 that implemented multiple invite/direct add templates. They expected the previous behavior that auto-populated the invitation with the "active" member notice. As a result, they've been sending invitations for more than a year without any custom text at all.
For those of us (and I suspect it's a substantial majority) who have no need for any multi-template feature, it would really be nice to be able to set a default/active template and have it auto-populate without having to select a lone template from the pick-list time after time.
Thanks much,
Bruce


moderated Re: Membership Page and Activity History #bug

 

Are there any plans to restore the History for banned members? I know this has been through several iterations so I don't know whether its recent disappearance was intentional or part of this bug. The banned list used to be the *only* place you could see the history of past members (which led to the hack of banning recently left members so I could see their history), but then the history was added to the Past members (which is not available in basic groups) and was available in both places. Now it's gone from Banned.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Membership Page and Activity History #bug

Sandra <sancole827@...>
 

That is perfect. Thank you very much. 

Sandra


moderated Re: #suggestion Add a Pricing tier between Basic (free) and Premium #suggestion

 

To me, a user of simple English, a non-profit organisation is any organisation
which does not make a profit. That probably includes the vast majority of
groups on this platform, including this one, with no income and no expenditure.

Whether or not something is tax deductible depends on which country you live
in. I assume from your reference to "IRS rules" you are thinking only of USA.
Those rules are of no relevance in most of the world. Like most of the
internet, this is an international platform.

Jim Fisher

On 15 Sep 2020 at 11:22, Bob Bellizzi wrote:

I'm  confused.

Simply setting up a nonprofit organization has  some basic costs which must be
covered. But, it would seem that, as a nonprofit, you have the legal ability to
solicit donations from others' who might have an interest in advancing your
cause. Such donations would be tax deductible to the donors under IRS rules.
BTW, what is the name of your non-profit? --
..


moderated Re: Membership Page and Activity History #bug

 

Looks good now. Thanks!
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Membership Page and Activity History #bug

 

I'm reading about Mark's fix after posting my message. They crossed. I'll check it out now.
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Membership Page and Activity History #bug

 

I agree. It is - to use a strong word, but I believe warranted - worthless in its current form. It seems to consist of just the join (or apply) date and all the messages the member sent. You can get that by "all messages by this member" - which is in fact more useful, since that's all the messages that were posted. The list of messages the member sent only adds extraneous (and useless) information because not all of them may have been approved.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Membership Page and Activity History #bug

 

Hello,

I think I've fixed this bug now. Please let me know if it is still not working right.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Membership Page and Activity History #bug

Sandra <sancole827@...>
 

Thanks Janet, 

I am pretty sure I used to be able to see a lot more activity on the member page and under their activity history. 

I found an old topic where it was discussed and it seems like "all activity" for a member is in the activity history on their member page. 

https://beta.groups.io/g/main/message/3122?p=,,,20,0,0,0::Created,,%22member+page%22,20,2,80,93560

It seems to have changed a month or so ago. I know I can find the information in other ways, but it was handy. Right now the activity history on the member page, is basically "all messages by this member". 

Sandra


moderated Re: Group creation page Visibility dropdown reset bug #bug

 

On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 7:50 PM Christos G. Psarras <christos@...> wrote:
Hi Mark,
 
In the group creation page, if there is a syntax error in the Email Address value and the data validation checker gets invoked after clicking on "Create Group", the error is correctly identified but unlike the Email Address and Group Description fields whose values are preserved, the Visibility dropdown gets reset to the default value and it can be easily missed.
 

This has been fixed.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Subscriber SPAM-removed email notification bug and one anomaly #bug

 

Hello,

On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 11:00 AM Christos G. Psarras <christos@...> wrote:

I run into two minor issues yesterday, one reproducible, the other one a weird one which I cannot reproduce.

The reproducible one first; during generation of the notification's message body text for the SPAM-removed emailed notification, the code that checks/formats the "offending" email's subject for inclusion in the notification text, must be looking for the group SubjectTag value sans the two brackets, because if the "offending" message subject does contain the SubjectTag text sans the brackets somewhere in the subject, the code doesn't prefix the inserted subject text with [SubjectTag].


For these notifications, we grab the subject line from the reports we receive from the email service providers. We do try to strip out subject tags, but we do so simply by looking for [ and ] and removing everything in between those characters (plus those characters), because sometimes the subject tag gets mangled in these reports. As you've also seen, other parts of the subject line can also be mangled in seemingly random ways.

Mark


moderated Re: Hashtag Permissions setting is misleading #bug

Duane
 

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 11:57 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
So, yeah, using the word Bounced is not accurate. Suggestions appreciated.
How about "Messages from members can only be tagged with existing hashtags, otherwise the message is saved as a draft for editing."  A little wordy, but seems clear to me.

Duane


moderated Re: Hashtag Permissions setting is misleading #bug

 

On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 7:14 AM Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:
Mark -- Not sure if this is a suggestion or a bug, but I'd call it a bug.

It revolves around the Hashtag Permissions setting in Message Policies. In the pick-list, there is an entry stating that "Messages from members can only be tagged with existing hashtags, otherwise the message is bounced." But it seems that what actually happens is that the message gets held in moderation. At that point the Moderator can of course reject the message, or replace the offending hashtag with an approved one. If the message is approved without change to the hashtag, the hashtag is added to the hashtag list.

The message should be held in pending form for the original sender, not the moderator. And they should get an email telling them to edit the message. This only applies to messages sent via email, as if you try to post a message from the website with a new hashtag, it'll give you an error message right then.

So, yeah, using the word Bounced is not accurate. Suggestions appreciated.

Thanks,
Mark

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