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moderated Re: Missing Activity #bug

 

Your memory is playing tricks on you. This has been a requested item for years. It was always going to be “part of the notification overhaul.”


On Sep 15, 2020, at 3:09 PM, Chris Jones via groups.io <chrisjones12@...> wrote:

Unless my recollection is failing Posts to Members used to be a "recorded activity", with Post (or message) to Member being in the drop - down  list of individual activities.

Having had to send a couple this evening there is no sign of them in the Activity list and no relevant option in the drop - down although "Post to Member" appears in my Email Delivery History based on Bcc Moderators.

Is it (a) my memory playing tricks or (b) has this activity disappeared from the list? If the latter was it deliberate or a bug?

I cannot spot anything in any recent Update message.

Chris

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moderated Missing Activity #bug

Chris Jones
 

Unless my recollection is failing Posts to Members used to be a "recorded activity", with Post (or message) to Member being in the drop - down  list of individual activities.

Having had to send a couple this evening there is no sign of them in the Activity list and no relevant option in the drop - down although "Post to Member" appears in my Email Delivery History based on Bcc Moderators.

Is it (a) my memory playing tricks or (b) has this activity disappeared from the list? If the latter was it deliberate or a bug?

I cannot spot anything in any recent Update message.

Chris


moderated Re: #suggestion Add a Pricing tier between Basic (free) and Premium #suggestion

Peter Cook
 

(1) ANY organization or person can legally solicit donations; (2) donations to a non-profit are tax-deductible only if it has a specific designation, like 501(c)(3); and (3) the amount of the deduction we're talking about here is likely infinitesimal even if the donor itemizes.


moderated Re: #suggestion Add a Pricing tier between Basic (free) and Premium #suggestion

Bob Bellizzi
 

I'm  confused.

Simply setting up a nonprofit organization has  some basic costs which must be covered.
But, it would seem that, as a nonprofit, you have the legal ability to solicit donations from others' who might have an interest in advancing your cause.
Such donations would be tax deductible to the donors under IRS rules.
BTW, what is the name of your non-profit?
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moderated Re: Add preview of Job Title to member directory profile thumbnail #suggestion

 

You did say it in your message body. I missed it. 😊


On Sep 15, 2020, at 8:49 AM, Loneliness Lab <loneliness@...> wrote:


Sorry I should have been more clear, what I meant was a snippet of the bio so you can see a snapshot of the profile in the thumbnail

On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 at 16:39, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
What do you mean by job title? 


On Sep 15, 2020, at 8:36 AM, Loneliness Lab <loneliness@...> wrote:

It would be a great feature to be able to see a snapshot profile when first clicking on members directory and seeing members job titles in the thumbnials without firts having to click on the individual profile. Is this easy to implement?








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moderated Re: Add preview of Job Title to member directory profile thumbnail #suggestion

Loneliness Lab
 

Sorry I should have been more clear, what I meant was a snippet of the bio so you can see a snapshot of the profile in the thumbnail

On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 at 16:39, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
What do you mean by job title? 


On Sep 15, 2020, at 8:36 AM, Loneliness Lab <loneliness@...> wrote:

It would be a great feature to be able to see a snapshot profile when first clicking on members directory and seeing members job titles in the thumbnials without firts having to click on the individual profile. Is this easy to implement?








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moderated Re: Add preview of Job Title to member directory profile thumbnail #suggestion

 

What do you mean by job title? 


On Sep 15, 2020, at 8:36 AM, Loneliness Lab <loneliness@...> wrote:

It would be a great feature to be able to see a snapshot profile when first clicking on members directory and seeing members job titles in the thumbnials without firts having to click on the individual profile. Is this easy to implement?

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moderated Add preview of Job Title to member directory profile thumbnail #suggestion

Loneliness Lab
 

It would be a great feature to be able to see a snapshot profile when first clicking on members directory and seeing members job titles in the thumbnials without firts having to click on the individual profile. Is this easy to implement?


moderated Re: #suggestion Add a Pricing tier between Basic (free) and Premium #suggestion

Sandi D
 

I too am concerned. As a small, local non profit, we may be able to cover $10 a month but not $20. 
We don't need storage for photos and don't use attachments or polls. We don't need the calendar either. GIO is strictly a communication tool. A few files perhaps. 
We just need all the basic offerings plus one subgroup for our BOD. 
And the Wki is missing from your suggestion. Having a Wiki would be a very important feature to us. It allows us to share our Standing Rules, Policy and Proceedures in a searchable format. 
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moderated Re: Linking email addresses #suggestion

Glenn Glazer
 

On 9/14/2020 11:39, Chris Jones via groups.io wrote:
On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 07:27 PM, Glenn Glazer wrote:
I think this is a remarkably uncharitable view, especially given the prevalence of the problem and the fact that sometimes it is not of their own creation precisely.
I can see and understand why you say that, but if individuals have a multiplicity of email addresses then IMHO it is incumbent upon them to keep proper track of which address has to be used for any specific application. I don't think it is fair to expect group owners & moderators to have to come to the rescue, espscially as owners & moderators don't actually know what addresses people have for different  purposes.

Chris

I suppose there are different philosophies at play here. I'm an admin and moderator as a service to the community of members of those groups. As such, "coming to the rescue" is part of my job and in particular, we have some older, not so tech savvy folks that need some hand-holding. I'm down with that because I consider it part of the job that I signed up for. Clearly, different communities will have different cultures and thus different expectations of their admins.

As for knowing their addresses, I don't need to - the solution provided upthread is self-serve.

Best,

Glenn

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moderated Re: Linking email addresses #suggestion

Andy Wedge
 

On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 05:59 PM, Christos G. Psarras wrote:
not quite sure what would happen if the alias is also a member of the same group,
That cannot happen as the alias address cannot already have an account with Groups.io

Andy


moderated Re: Linking email addresses #suggestion

Chris Jones
 

On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 07:27 PM, Glenn Glazer wrote:
I think this is a remarkably uncharitable view, especially given the prevalence of the problem and the fact that sometimes it is not of their own creation precisely.
I can see and understand why you say that, but if individuals have a multiplicity of email addresses then IMHO it is incumbent upon them to keep proper track of which address has to be used for any specific application. I don't think it is fair to expect group owners & moderators to have to come to the rescue, espscially as owners & moderators don't actually know what addresses people have for different  purposes.

Chris

Chris


moderated Re: Linking email addresses #suggestion

Glenn Glazer
 

On 9/14/2020 11:15, Chris Jones via groups.io wrote:
On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 06:11 PM, lloyd lehrer wrote:
Several members have multiple  emails and have this problem.
Then I would argue that it is a problem of their own creation, I'm afraid.

Chris

I think this is a remarkably uncharitable view, especially given the prevalence of the problem and the fact that sometimes it is not of their own creation precisely. For example, in some of the groups I run, public officials need to have both their private address for some posts where they are voicing their opinions as individuals and their official address for when they are speaking ex cathedra.

Best,

Glenn

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moderated Re: Linking email addresses #suggestion

Chris Jones
 

On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 06:11 PM, lloyd lehrer wrote:
Several members have multiple  emails and have this problem.
Then I would argue that it is a problem of their own creation, I'm afraid.

Chris


moderated Re: Linking email addresses #suggestion

Christos G. Psarras
 

Hi Andy,

>>> See the member's manual for details...

Yeah, but it's not quite clear in that section of what would happen, so I just sent a message to the docs subgroup about it, some note blurb in there about this particular scenario, i.e. logging in with an alias is the same as logging in with the regular/main account, could be helpful.

Cheers,
Christos



moderated Re: Linking email addresses #suggestion

Glenn Glazer
 

On 9/14/2020 10:01, Andy Wedge wrote:
On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 04:47 PM, Glenn Glazer wrote:
Would it be possible to have a field that lists alternate email addresses that are linked or aliased to the main one?
This facility already exists in your account preferences.You can define an alias to your main account address and Groups.io will allow posting from it. This is a send only alias as all outgoing messages from Groups.io go to the main account address.

See the member's manual for details: https://groups.io/helpcenter/membersmanual/1/understanding-groups-io-accounts/setting-account-preferences-and-viewing-account-information

Andy
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Thanks, Andy.

Best,

Glenn

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moderated Re: Linking email addresses #suggestion

lloyd lehrer
 

Yah, couldnt agree more. Several members have multiple  emails and have this problem.

lloyd lehrer, (310)951-9097

On Mon, Sep 14, 2020, 8:47 AM Glenn Glazer <glenn.glazer@...> wrote:
So to set the use case, almost all of the members of one of my groups are email only. For them, it is pretty much just a mailing list. However, we do make extensive use of the Files section whether they check it or not and after the last endorsement forum, everybody suddenly wanted to check the results even though they'd never been to the groups.io website before.

As such, a number of them needed my help to point them to the help page on logging in with cookies, but a few ran into an interesting problem. These folks had multiple email addresses that forward to one address and weren't thinking about which address was actually on the list, so when they logged in with a different address, they couldn't see anything. This was obvious in retrospect, but not during debugging.

My solutions for this were to either look up their email address and have them use that address or add all of their other addresses as no mail.

But it made me wonder: right now the account page allows for only a single email address. Would it be possible to have a field that lists alternate email addresses that are linked or aliased to the main one? E.g., I might have my account under "glenn.glazer@..." but list "gglazer@..., gglazer@..." under aliases so that if I log in under one of those, it would show me the same groups and group information as under my gmail address.

Most people who are tech savvy don't need this, they can remember which address they used. But not all groups consist of people who are like that and this would be helpful to them.

Best,

Glenn


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moderated Re: Linking email addresses #suggestion

Glenn Glazer
 

On 9/14/2020 09:59, Christos G. Psarras wrote:
Glenn,

>>>
But it made me wonder: right now the account page allows for only a single email address. Would it be possible to have a field that lists alternate email addresses that are linked or aliased to the main one? E.g., I might have my account under "glenn.glazer@..." but list "gglazer@..., gglazer@..." under aliases so that if I log in under one of those, it would show me the same groups and group information as under my gmail address.
<<<

This capability does exist; go to your account settings (upper right) and in the Login screen, look at the bottom for Advanced Settings For Email Aliases.  Add your alias there, and if you log in with that, (and the same pwd) it will be like you logged-in with your regular account email address.

I assume that if one does that, the group owner/admin (you) would have to remove the extra aliased account from the group; not quite sure what would happen if the alias is also a member of the same group, but more than likely some code may get confused somewhere.

Cheers,
Christos

Oh, hey, you're right, I totally missed that.

Many thanks,

Glenn

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moderated Re: Linking email addresses #suggestion

Andy Wedge
 

On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 04:47 PM, Glenn Glazer wrote:
Would it be possible to have a field that lists alternate email addresses that are linked or aliased to the main one?
This facility already exists in your account preferences.You can define an alias to your main account address and Groups.io will allow posting from it. This is a send only alias as all outgoing messages from Groups.io go to the main account address.

See the member's manual for details: https://groups.io/helpcenter/membersmanual/1/understanding-groups-io-accounts/setting-account-preferences-and-viewing-account-information

Andy


moderated Re: Linking email addresses #suggestion

Christos G. Psarras
 

Glenn,

>>>
But it made me wonder: right now the account page allows for only a single email address. Would it be possible to have a field that lists alternate email addresses that are linked or aliased to the main one? E.g., I might have my account under "glenn.glazer@..." but list "gglazer@..., gglazer@..." under aliases so that if I log in under one of those, it would show me the same groups and group information as under my gmail address.
<<<

This capability does exist; go to your account settings (upper right) and in the Login screen, look at the bottom for Advanced Settings For Email Aliases.  Add your alias there, and if you log in with that, (and the same pwd) it will be like you logged-in with your regular account email address.

I assume that if one does that, the group owner/admin (you) would have to remove the extra aliased account from the group; not quite sure what would happen if the alias is also a member of the same group, but more than likely some code may get confused somewhere.

Cheers,
Christos