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moderated Re: Membership Page and Activity History #bug

 

On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 08:11 PM, Sandra wrote:
The drop down box on the member page - activity history indicates a box for "approved pending message", but it does not show any results.
That refers to the member, if a moderator, approving someone else's pending message. It would not show any results if the member is not a moderator. It's not related to the member's own messages being approved.

I could also see who approved the member, who changed anything, changed their message status. Even for unmoderated members, on their member page, under activity history, I can no longer determine, which moderator may have made a change to their membership, posting status etc.
I don't remember ever being able to do that, but I could be wrong. In any event, it's not that you "can no longer determine which moderator made a change to their posting status." Changes to the member's posting status are not currently shown in the member activity page at all. I don't know if they ever were.

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moderated Re: Add back Active checkbox to Invite and Direct Add member notices #suggestion

Bruce Bowman
 

Mark -- I'm resurrecting this thread because the problem came up again in GMF. Apparently there are several groups out there who didn't notice the change in mid 2019 that implemented multiple invite/direct add templates. They expected the previous behavior that auto-populated the invitation with the "active" member notice. As a result, they've been sending invitations for more than a year without any custom text at all.

For those of us (and I suspect it's a substantial majority) who have no need for any multi-template feature, it would really be nice to be able to set a default/active template and have it auto-populate without having to select a lone template from the pick-list time after time. 

Thanks much,
Bruce


moderated Membership Page and Activity History #bug

Sandra
 

I am not sure if this is a bug or change in the membership page. I am a moderator on a busy group. When new members post and I am looking at the pending message, I often view the "member page". I like to look at the activity history, see who approved previous messages, and then look at previous messages and decide whether to ask them to post to the previous topic or start a new topic and link the prior topic. 

At one point on the member page, under activity history, I could see who approved the message, and the topic (blue message for lack of a better description - once they are off moderation). However that has disappeared. If they are a member under moderation, I need to exit their member page, go to the group, search for the prior message, go back to the pending message, and decide on approval etc. The drop down box on the member page - activity history indicates a box for "approved pending message", but it does not show any results. I am using "show all activity" when viewing the activity history. 

I could also see who approved the member, who changed anything, changed their message status. Even for unmoderated members, on their member page, under activity history, I can no longer determine, which moderator may have made a change to their membership, posting status etc. 

I did search beta, and the GMF group for comments but did not come across any notices of changes. 

Of course I can search the main activity log to determine those changes, but found it quite handy to look at the individual member page and their activity history.

Not sure if this is a bug, or a change in methodology. 

Thanks in advance. 

Sandra


moderated Re: #suggestion Add a Pricing tier between Basic (free) and Premium #suggestion

Bob Bellizzi
 

As soon as you use words like "nonprofit"  and "donation", lots of freedom of operation fly out the window because there are very specific laws, at least in the USA at both federal and  state level that goven the use and application of those terms.  In the USA, only persons 18 years of age and under can legally solicit donations without worrying about the laws.
If you wish to solicit funds to support an ad hoc cause like the cost of a groups.io Premium group for a bunch of friends or a group of people with a common interest, it's best not to describe the venturre in the words above.
I have participated in  friends' groups who wished to raise a bit of money for someone or a worthy cause but I suggest you call it anything but a nonprofit, at lease in the USA.
By the way, an entity doesn't have to be a 501 (c)(3) to be a nonprofit but all nonprofits are subject to laws of the land, and are required to file an IRS tax return.


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moderated Re: Linking email addresses #suggestion

Frances
 

This doesn't address your request directly but just tell them to check the footer of an email from the group. The email address they are using is there.
See Section 21.3 Understanding message footers
in https://groups.io/hc/membersmanual/Groups.io_Members_Manual.pdf

And while you are looking at the Help, see Email Aliases - https://groups.io/helpcenter/faq/1/group-member-faq/q-can-i-add-another-email-address
Just for sending, not receiving.

Frances


moderated Re: Missing Activity #bug

 

Your memory is playing tricks on you. This has been a requested item for years. It was always going to be “part of the notification overhaul.”


On Sep 15, 2020, at 3:09 PM, Chris Jones via groups.io <chrisjones12@...> wrote:

Unless my recollection is failing Posts to Members used to be a "recorded activity", with Post (or message) to Member being in the drop - down  list of individual activities.

Having had to send a couple this evening there is no sign of them in the Activity list and no relevant option in the drop - down although "Post to Member" appears in my Email Delivery History based on Bcc Moderators.

Is it (a) my memory playing tricks or (b) has this activity disappeared from the list? If the latter was it deliberate or a bug?

I cannot spot anything in any recent Update message.

Chris

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moderated Missing Activity #bug

Chris Jones
 

Unless my recollection is failing Posts to Members used to be a "recorded activity", with Post (or message) to Member being in the drop - down  list of individual activities.

Having had to send a couple this evening there is no sign of them in the Activity list and no relevant option in the drop - down although "Post to Member" appears in my Email Delivery History based on Bcc Moderators.

Is it (a) my memory playing tricks or (b) has this activity disappeared from the list? If the latter was it deliberate or a bug?

I cannot spot anything in any recent Update message.

Chris


moderated Re: #suggestion Add a Pricing tier between Basic (free) and Premium #suggestion

Peter Cook
 

(1) ANY organization or person can legally solicit donations; (2) donations to a non-profit are tax-deductible only if it has a specific designation, like 501(c)(3); and (3) the amount of the deduction we're talking about here is likely infinitesimal even if the donor itemizes.


moderated Re: #suggestion Add a Pricing tier between Basic (free) and Premium #suggestion

Bob Bellizzi
 

I'm  confused.

Simply setting up a nonprofit organization has  some basic costs which must be covered.
But, it would seem that, as a nonprofit, you have the legal ability to solicit donations from others' who might have an interest in advancing your cause.
Such donations would be tax deductible to the donors under IRS rules.
BTW, what is the name of your non-profit?
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moderated Re: Add preview of Job Title to member directory profile thumbnail #suggestion

 

You did say it in your message body. I missed it. 😊


On Sep 15, 2020, at 8:49 AM, Loneliness Lab <loneliness@...> wrote:


Sorry I should have been more clear, what I meant was a snippet of the bio so you can see a snapshot of the profile in the thumbnail

On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 at 16:39, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
What do you mean by job title? 


On Sep 15, 2020, at 8:36 AM, Loneliness Lab <loneliness@...> wrote:

It would be a great feature to be able to see a snapshot profile when first clicking on members directory and seeing members job titles in the thumbnials without firts having to click on the individual profile. Is this easy to implement?








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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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moderated Re: Add preview of Job Title to member directory profile thumbnail #suggestion

Loneliness Lab (Collectively)
 

Sorry I should have been more clear, what I meant was a snippet of the bio so you can see a snapshot of the profile in the thumbnail

On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 at 16:39, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
What do you mean by job title? 


On Sep 15, 2020, at 8:36 AM, Loneliness Lab <loneliness@...> wrote:

It would be a great feature to be able to see a snapshot profile when first clicking on members directory and seeing members job titles in the thumbnials without firts having to click on the individual profile. Is this easy to implement?








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moderated Re: Add preview of Job Title to member directory profile thumbnail #suggestion

 

What do you mean by job title? 


On Sep 15, 2020, at 8:36 AM, Loneliness Lab <loneliness@...> wrote:

It would be a great feature to be able to see a snapshot profile when first clicking on members directory and seeing members job titles in the thumbnials without firts having to click on the individual profile. Is this easy to implement?

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moderated Add preview of Job Title to member directory profile thumbnail #suggestion

Loneliness Lab (Collectively)
 

It would be a great feature to be able to see a snapshot profile when first clicking on members directory and seeing members job titles in the thumbnials without firts having to click on the individual profile. Is this easy to implement?


moderated Re: #suggestion Add a Pricing tier between Basic (free) and Premium #suggestion

Sandi D <sandi.asgtechie@...>
 

I too am concerned. As a small, local non profit, we may be able to cover $10 a month but not $20. 
We don't need storage for photos and don't use attachments or polls. We don't need the calendar either. GIO is strictly a communication tool. A few files perhaps. 
We just need all the basic offerings plus one subgroup for our BOD. 
And the Wki is missing from your suggestion. Having a Wiki would be a very important feature to us. It allows us to share our Standing Rules, Policy and Proceedures in a searchable format. 
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Sandi Dickenson
ASG Volunteers Group.


moderated Re: Linking email addresses #suggestion

Glenn Glazer
 

On 9/14/2020 11:39, Chris Jones via groups.io wrote:
On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 07:27 PM, Glenn Glazer wrote:
I think this is a remarkably uncharitable view, especially given the prevalence of the problem and the fact that sometimes it is not of their own creation precisely.
I can see and understand why you say that, but if individuals have a multiplicity of email addresses then IMHO it is incumbent upon them to keep proper track of which address has to be used for any specific application. I don't think it is fair to expect group owners & moderators to have to come to the rescue, espscially as owners & moderators don't actually know what addresses people have for different  purposes.

Chris

I suppose there are different philosophies at play here. I'm an admin and moderator as a service to the community of members of those groups. As such, "coming to the rescue" is part of my job and in particular, we have some older, not so tech savvy folks that need some hand-holding. I'm down with that because I consider it part of the job that I signed up for. Clearly, different communities will have different cultures and thus different expectations of their admins.

As for knowing their addresses, I don't need to - the solution provided upthread is self-serve.

Best,

Glenn

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moderated Re: Linking email addresses #suggestion

Andy Wedge
 

On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 05:59 PM, Christos G. Psarras wrote:
not quite sure what would happen if the alias is also a member of the same group,
That cannot happen as the alias address cannot already have an account with Groups.io

Andy


moderated Re: Linking email addresses #suggestion

Chris Jones
 

On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 07:27 PM, Glenn Glazer wrote:
I think this is a remarkably uncharitable view, especially given the prevalence of the problem and the fact that sometimes it is not of their own creation precisely.
I can see and understand why you say that, but if individuals have a multiplicity of email addresses then IMHO it is incumbent upon them to keep proper track of which address has to be used for any specific application. I don't think it is fair to expect group owners & moderators to have to come to the rescue, espscially as owners & moderators don't actually know what addresses people have for different  purposes.

Chris

Chris


moderated Re: Linking email addresses #suggestion

Glenn Glazer
 

On 9/14/2020 11:15, Chris Jones via groups.io wrote:
On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 06:11 PM, lloyd lehrer wrote:
Several members have multiple  emails and have this problem.
Then I would argue that it is a problem of their own creation, I'm afraid.

Chris

I think this is a remarkably uncharitable view, especially given the prevalence of the problem and the fact that sometimes it is not of their own creation precisely. For example, in some of the groups I run, public officials need to have both their private address for some posts where they are voicing their opinions as individuals and their official address for when they are speaking ex cathedra.

Best,

Glenn

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moderated Re: Linking email addresses #suggestion

Chris Jones
 

On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 06:11 PM, lloyd lehrer wrote:
Several members have multiple  emails and have this problem.
Then I would argue that it is a problem of their own creation, I'm afraid.

Chris


moderated Re: Linking email addresses #suggestion

 

Hi Andy,

>>> See the member's manual for details...

Yeah, but it's not quite clear in that section of what would happen, so I just sent a message to the docs subgroup about it, some note blurb in there about this particular scenario, i.e. logging in with an alias is the same as logging in with the regular/main account, could be helpful.

Cheers,
Christos


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