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moderated Re: Make Sticky Topic show at top of Messages view #suggestion

 

Duane is exactly.right. The only way to avoid what would be a fiasco for some groups is to avoid using stickies altogether. And I like stickies. :-) I not want to be forced into not using them by this change.


On Aug 25, 2020, at 11:51 AM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:

On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 12:34 PM, Ro wrote:
I prefer NOT to have the messages sticky.
If the owner/mod doesn't make any stickies, there wouldn't be any on any view.

Duane

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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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moderated Re: show descriptions in databaes overview #suggestion

Duane
 

On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 12:55 PM, Victoria wrote:
yes, but it only shows after opening a database but not in the overview of the databases.
I'm assuming the view you mean is https://groups.io/g/GroupName/database.  If so, then it does IF you fill in the Short Description.  It doesn't use any of the (long) Description field.  They are totally separate.

Duane


moderated Re: Make Sticky Topic show at top of Messages view #suggestion

Duane
 

On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 12:34 PM, Ro wrote:
I prefer NOT to have the messages sticky.
If the owner/mod doesn't make any stickies, there wouldn't be any on any view.

Duane


moderated Re: Make Sticky Topic show at top of Messages view #suggestion

 

Good idea about making it an option! I’m not sure people realize the ramifications of this change. If a group has, say, 3-5 sticky topics (and many groups have more), with 3-5 messages per topic (again, many have more), the messages list will be top-heavy with about a dozen, and possibly even dozens, of messages to have to manually get through before finally reaching current messages. I myself will feel it’s best stop using stickies in my group if this comes to pass, failing cutting down each sticky topic to 1-2 messages, which is impractical for our group and the way we use stickies (namely, for important conversations, some of them extended -  not just individual messages).

The usefulness or, conversely, inconvenience of the revised feature will depend in large part on how the individuak groups have grown to use stickies currently - understanding, and coming to rely on, the fact that the messages list has not so far been burdened with this display order. And that’s why making the change an option would be a good idea. 

Either way I hope this will be very well thought out before a final implementation decision is made.

 Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 25, 2020, at 10:34 AM, Ro <recarlton@...> wrote:

Perhaps this can be made a user option. I prefer NOT to have the messages sticky.  But for those that do. It ca be an option in settings

Ro

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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: show descriptions in databaes overview #suggestion

 

On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 05:18 PM, Duane wrote:
If you put something in the Short Description when creating/editing the database, that will show on the listing of available databases.
Duane,
yes, but it only shows after opening a database but not in the overview of the databases. Compare it to files: When you create a folder, you can add a description to each folder, and this description shows in the overview page of the folders. When creating a database adding a description this description does not show in the overview but it should in my opinion.
Victoria


moderated Re: Changes to new basic groups #update

Dave Sergeant
 

Does 'attachment as links' work as it does at the moment then (in new
basic groups)?

Dave

On 25 Aug 2020 at 9:57, Mark Fletcher wrote:

Because the
Photos section is disabled, there is no 'Emailed Photos' album where you
can view photo attachments.

http://davesergeant.com


moderated Re: Make Sticky Topic show at top of Messages view #suggestion

Ro
 

Perhaps this can be made a user option. I prefer NOT to have the messages sticky.  But for those that do. It ca be an option in settings

Ro


moderated Re: Changes to new basic groups #update

Paul Fox
 

mark wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 10:12 AM Linda Prain via [1]groups.io
> <ShaktiSystemsDirector=[2]yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
>
> So if I'm understanding correctly, we can still attached photos, video,
> files to messages and have the 1 GB storage limit, but there will be no
> organized folder structure like Files or Attachments where we can look
> at everything together or upload files separately from posts.
>
> That is correct.
> Mark

Will the group owner still be able to see the Photos/Files sections, in
order to do cleanup, etc?

paul
=----------------------
paul fox, pgf@foxharp.boston.ma.us (arlington, ma, where it's 79.9 degrees)


moderated Re: Message display format error in Topics view #bug #fixed

 

On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 05:34 PM, Bob Bellizzi wrote:

When I view it in Topics it looks fine BUT when I click on the topic my message content slides down to the bottom of the left hand menu on the big screen below the link for WiKI!

This has been fixed.

Thanks, Mark


moderated Re: Changes to new basic groups #update

 

On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 10:12 AM Linda Prain via groups.io <ShaktiSystemsDirector=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
So if I'm understanding correctly, we can still attached photos, video, files to messages and have the 1 GB storage limit, but there will be no organized folder structure like Files or Attachments where we can look at everything together or upload files separately from posts.

That is correct.

Mark 


moderated Re: Changes to new basic groups #update

Linda Prain
 

So if I'm understanding correctly, we can still attached photos, video, files to messages and have the 1 GB storage limit, but there will be no organized folder structure like Files or Attachments where we can look at everything together or upload files separately from posts.

Regards, Linda


moderated Re: Changes to new basic groups #update

 

On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 10:09 AM lloyd lehrer <lloydlehrer@...> wrote:
What changes for old existing free groups?


Nothing.

Cheers,
Mark 


moderated Re: Changes to new basic groups #update

lloyd lehrer
 

What changes for old existing free groups?

lloyd lehrer, (310)951-9097

On Tue, Aug 25, 2020, 9:58 AM Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 9:35 AM Linda Prain via groups.io <ShaktiSystemsDirector=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Outside of that frustration, can you give me some guidelines as to how files, photos or attachments will be handled in a new basic (i.e. free) group?  Are they simply not allowed?  Are they retained for a short period of time and then deleted?  I'd like to understand where I can find more about the new basic functionality to ascertain if this is going to work for us.  A premium service is simply something we can't afford on an ongoing basis.  Kind regards, Linda Prain


The Files and Photos sections for new Basic groups are disabled. Attachments sent to Basic groups work as they always have. Because the Photos section is disabled, there is no 'Emailed Photos' album where you can view photo attachments. 

Hope this helps.
Mark


moderated Re: Changes to new basic groups #update

 

On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 9:35 AM Linda Prain via groups.io <ShaktiSystemsDirector=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Outside of that frustration, can you give me some guidelines as to how files, photos or attachments will be handled in a new basic (i.e. free) group?  Are they simply not allowed?  Are they retained for a short period of time and then deleted?  I'd like to understand where I can find more about the new basic functionality to ascertain if this is going to work for us.  A premium service is simply something we can't afford on an ongoing basis.  Kind regards, Linda Prain


The Files and Photos sections for new Basic groups are disabled. Attachments sent to Basic groups work as they always have. Because the Photos section is disabled, there is no 'Emailed Photos' album where you can view photo attachments. 

Hope this helps.
Mark


moderated Re: Calendar RSVPed button does not work in Month, Week and Day views #fixed #bug

 

On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 8:08 AM Andy Wedge <andy_wedge@...> wrote:

the calendar RSVPed button to only show events that you have RSVPed to does not work for Month, Week and Day views. It seems fine in List view though.

This should be fixed now.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Changes to new basic groups #update

Linda Prain
 

Wow.  I can't believe I have a need for a new group and am now just seeing I just missed this change by 1 day.  I really wish you would have emailed all your group Admins and owners for those of us that don't come to this beta. group site on a regular basis.  This is an important enough change that it seems prudent to make sure that your groups owners knew about it in advance.  

Outside of that frustration, can you give me some guidelines as to how files, photos or attachments will be handled in a new basic (i.e. free) group?  Are they simply not allowed?  Are they retained for a short period of time and then deleted?  I'd like to understand where I can find more about the new basic functionality to ascertain if this is going to work for us.  A premium service is simply something we can't afford on an ongoing basis.  Kind regards, Linda Prain


moderated Re: show descriptions in databaes overview #suggestion

Duane
 

On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 10:08 AM, Victoria wrote:
in the databases overview it would be nice to see the descriptions of the databases
If you put something in the Short Description when creating/editing the database, that will show on the listing of available databases.

Duane


moderated show descriptions in databaes overview #suggestion

 

in the databases overview it would be nice to see the descriptions of the databases


moderated Calendar RSVPed button does not work in Month, Week and Day views #fixed #bug

Andy Wedge
 

Hi Mark,

the calendar RSVPed button to only show events that you have RSVPed to does not work for Month, Week and Day views. It seems fine in List view though.

Regards,
Andy


moderated Re: Direct Add to subgroup: stay on Direct Add page after adding; allow bulk searches #suggestion #done

Dan Halbert
 

On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 08:49 AM, Andy Wedge wrote:
On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 09:48 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:

It would be nice if the interface stayed on the Direct Add page. This seems like an easy change.

This is now done. Also, it will now display a flash notice indicating success.
Thank you, Mark!


The flash notice is displayed at the top of an effectively blank page so you still need to click the Direct Add option from the left side menu to redisplay the input fields.
Andy, I do not see what you mean. I added myself to a test list, and it went back to the Direct Add page, showing the first page of all the members of the parent group, as it did originally. This was on desktop, not mobile, and it was in a subgroup.

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