Thanks for response so quickly.

Greatttt !  We are estimating to use GIO for managing our community groups and events

Using the custom date range when searching messages ain't workin'. 
I search using ONE term, the search returns tons of messages -- many within the last year.

If I use a custom range, say two years back (ie, 21.07.2018 to 21.07.2020) nothing is returned.  Nada, Zip, Niet.

if I use the "past year" date range, the world is good.
If I use a custom range ONE year back (ie, 21.07.2018 to 21.07.2019) - again Nothing, Nada, Zip, Niet.

-Ken

I think this is probably more an outlook bug than a gio bug, but I figured it was still worth bringing up here to see if anyone else has seen this behavior before.
Scenario:   A list member forwarded a g-cal invite to one of our lists. 

Result: 

• In Gio- As expected the message displays as sent from the list member
• In gmail - As expected the message displays as sent from "<list member> via lists.lfnetworking.org to lfn-odl-onap-collab"
• In outlook - unexpectedly the message displays send from "lfn-odl-onap-collab@... on behalf of <original sender>"  rather than on behalf of the list member.

It is worth pointing out that the <original sender> does also happen to be a list member, although the original email that was forwarded to the list was a private email sent outside of any Gio mechanism or control and and had never previously been sent to the list in any form. 
Also worth noting, in this case there isn't a policy/security concern that a private email was forwarded to the list. Not an issue. Don't need any feedback on that aspect of it. ;-)

Thoughts?

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Kenny Paul, Technical Program Manager for ONAP
The Linux Foundation
Pacific Time Zone

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 12:01 PM, Bill Hazel wrote:

Today when I went to edit my wiki I found I was missing editing options.

Looks normal if you're using a narrow screen.  If it's not a computer, try landscape mode.

Duane

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 09:31 AM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

The colon removal was implemented in response to a problem with importing ICS files into Google Calendar (ref: https://beta.groups.io/g/main/message/25680 ).

We are no longer stripping colons from ICS files. I just pushed two other bug fixes which eliminated the need to strip colons.

Thanks, Mark

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 07:02 AM, sa@... wrote:

I met some charset error and url error when downloading Calendar ics files: feed.ics

Both of these bugs have been fixed.

Thanks, Mark

Today when I went to edit my wiki I found I was missing editing options. See below.


Bill
[Mod note: Added #bug hashtag]

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 10:02 AM, <sa@...> wrote:

* http url is broken as ":" is replaced to " "

The colon removal was implemented in response to a problem with importing ICS files into Google Calendar (ref: https://beta.groups.io/g/main/message/25680).

But what does this mean for ICS files associated with Zoom meetings, where a hyperlink is intentionally added to both the Location and Description?

Regards,
Bruce

Mark et al -- As someone who has no need for multiple invite templates, the necessity of having to always select one at the time of sending an invitation is a little burdensome. All too often I forget to do it, and the invitation goes out with no custom text at all.

I think it would be nice to add back the "active" checkbox for Member Notices of type Invite (and Direct Add). If one of them is thus marked, it would auto-populate without having to be selected, but could still be overridden by selecting something else from the Notices pull-down menu.

Thanks for your consideration.

Regards,
Bruce

Hi there,

I met some charset error and url error when downloading Calendar ics files: feed.ics

This is the original content:

And this is the downloaded content:


So there are two errors:
* UTF8 is not supported in DESCRIPTION fields? (Chinese)

* http url is broken as ":" is replaced to " "

Hmmm, I think that once a member changes their RSVP from attending to not attending, and then wants to change it back to attending they should be at the bottom of the waitlist, otherwise it becomes a guessing game for those on the waitlist. This could be a nightmare scenario. 

Imagine you are that person at the top of the waitlist who has been added to the event due to someone changing their RSVP from attending to not attending, but on the day of the event that person changes their mind again and goes back to attending and now you are again on the waitlist. I'm managing a homeschool group, so these events are for children, so finding out at the last minute or maybe not until you show up to an event, that you no longer can attend is bad for these families and we could lose people over this. We have had to deal with some hurt feelings in the past when people don't show up to events and others could have gone. Not only that, but some venues also end up refusing to allow our group to plan field trips or attend shows because of the low attendance. We need the ability to put offending members on an automatic waitlist or ban them from RSVPing for a short time as a consequence of no-showing. 

All this to say, we would like our moderators to have the ability to directly manage event RSVPs. It would be incredibly helpful. I also agree with the suggestion to update members when there is movement on the waitlist. 

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 04:24 AM, Nancy Funk wrote:

Has there been any move toward allowing moderators and owners the ability to manage RSVPs and waitlist?

Hi Nancy,

I'm glad you raised this again and I was about to do the same. I first raised a query about managing RSVP events on GMF in January 2019  That was followed up with an email request to support (ticket 8127) and a suggestion here on Beta.  I responded to one of your previous queries about this too in July last year showing that Mark had confirmed it was on the 'to do' list in the January.

I agree with you that with current restrictions about meetings with different group sizes, having the ability to effectively manage attendee and waiting lists would make Groups.io a more attractive option. I have advised members in my group who have suggested using RSVP events not to bother as it's not possible for the organiser to easily and effectively manage them.

I have done some testing recently to remind myself of some of the issues and using three different accounts (members A, B & C):

• Member A creates an RSVP event with a maximum attendees set to 1
• Member A confirms they will attend their own event (and so takes the only space currently available)
• Member B says they will attend and they are put on the waitlist with a message saying they are at the front of the queue
• Member C says they will attend and they are put on the waitlist with a message saying they are at the front of the queue (they cannot both be at the front of the queue!)
• Member A changes the maximum number of attendees for the event from 1 to 2.
• Member B gets an email message saying they have been added to the event and member C stays on the waitlist
• If member A knows that member B cannot attend the event, but member B does not update their RSVP status, A cannot remove B from the event, freeing up space for C
• If member A knows that member C cannot attend the event, but member C does not update their RSVP status, A cannot remove C from the waitlist
• Member A reduces the maximum number of attendees from 2 to 1 - the event is now oversubscribed but there's no message to member A to confirm this
• Member B updates their RSVP status to say they will not attend and they are removed from the attendee list (leaving C on the waitlist)
• Member B updates their RSVP status to say they will attend and they are placed on the waitlist (at the front of the queue!!)
• Member A increases the maximum number of attendees from 1 to 2 and member B gets an email message to say they have been added to the event (leaving C still on the waitlist)

So, it also seems that a member's priority when being taken from the waitlist to the attendee list is based upon when they first RSVPd.

As well as having the ability to effectively manage the attendee and waitlists (by adding, removing and reordering entries where needed), it would be helpful for those on the waitlist to know what position they are in (by being updated when it changes).  If a member knows they are genuinely near the front of the queue (and can see progression towards it) they are more likely to stay in the queue. If they join a waitlist at, for example, position 50 when there are only, say, 20 places available, then at least they know they may be unlikely to get on the event and they can go and do something else - it helps manage expectations.

Hopefully we can get some movement on this sooner rather than later.

Regards
Andy

Good morning all,

I've realised that my original message was a tad misleading - aplogies!  Here is a copy showing the 'Joined' query and beneath that is a copy of the Spam Control:-



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Peter

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 05:38 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

A screenshot of your Spam Control settings

Also of the home page. My guess is he's accidentally referring to a non-restricted group.
 
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 11:44 AM, Peter Rawbone wrote:

When someone applies to join our group(s) in the Members List they are shown as ‘joined’.  BUT they have not joined or are not members until they have been approved by Owner or Moderators.

Would it be a good idea to have a new title such as Applied?

Peter -- I'm not understanding this (yet).

If your group is Restricted, this column in your Member List should already be labeled "Applied." This was hashed out at length last year (ref: https://beta.groups.io/g/main/topic/30371180#20347).

If your group is actually Restricted and that column nonetheless displays "Joined" that seems like a bug. A screenshot of your Spam Control settings would be helpful in troubleshooting.

Regards,
Bruce

Actually I take part of that back. There is a title "Applied" in the pending  members list, too. I don't see "joined" anywhere.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu

Where does it say "joined"? In my members list, the column is titled "Applied" and shows the date they applied. And there's no corresponding column in the Pending Members list anyway. Are you sure you are talking about a restricted group?
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu

Good day all,

When someone applies to join our group(s) in the Members List they are shown as ‘joined’.  BUT they have not joined or are not members until they have been approved by Owner or Moderators.

Would it be a good idea to have a new title such as Applied?

Take care and stay safe
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Peter

[mod note: Added a subject]

Changes to the site this week:

• INTERNAL: Continued converting web and email templates from Go's template engine to quicktemplate.
• UPDATE: Owners Manual updates from Nina.
• NEW: When creating a group, you now have the option of a 30 day free trial of (almost all) premium features.
• NEW: Added additional Why Email Groups? marketing page.
• NEW: Activity log entries when a member changes their email delivery options.
• NEW: In the activity log, log specifics about moderators changing delivery and post moderation.
• CHANGE: Don't send a push notification to the moderator who approved/removed a subscriber.
• NEW: Added new activity log entries for adding/deleting member notices and also linked to the member notice being added/edited.
• BUGFIX: Fixed group notification of folder upload and fixed some instances of the word dir being used when it should be folder.

Take care everyone.

Mark

Has there been any move toward allowing moderators and owners the ability to manage RSVPs and waitlist? Our group is trying to figure out ways to better manage our events, especially the dreaded no-shows. With all the public & private group size restrictions in place, it has become a much more pressing issue than ever before. We really need the ability to change a member's RSVP as necessary and manage our waitlist. 

Thank you so much for your consideration in this matter. :)