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moderated Re: Moderator notifications enabled for all #update

 

On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 11:45 AM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 11:54 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
I've just changed it so that moderator notifications are also not emailed to the moderator who generated them
Mark, I just received (again) a totally startling push notification that the group has a new member, right after I approved the member. I know the "action" is technically by the member who joined, but in a restricted group, it is actually an action by a moderator approving the membership. So I think the notifications shouldn't go out about a new member to the moderator who approved the member.
 
I've just made this change.

Cheers,
Mark 


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Andy Wedge
 

On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 05:40 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 7:42 AM Andy Wedge <andy_wedge@...> wrote:

When adding a folder, the moderator notification email states 'added directory'.
When deleting a folder, the moderator notification email states 'The following files have been deleted'
When deleting a folder, the #file-notice to the group states, 'The following files have been deleted'

These have been fixed.
Hi Mark,

There still seems to be a difference in the content and style of message issued for an folder upload and delete.  For a folder upload, it lists the individual files and the number of them is specified in the message subject:





For a folder delete though, the files within the folder are not listed and it suggests the folder being deleted is an individual file:




If the individual files can be listed on a folder upload, is there a reason why they cannot be listed on a folder delete?

Regards,
Andy


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

 

Hello,

On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 7:42 AM Andy Wedge <andy_wedge@...> wrote:

When adding a folder, the moderator notification email states 'added directory'.
When deleting a folder, the moderator notification email states 'The following files have been deleted'
When deleting a folder, the #file-notice to the group states, 'The following files have been deleted'

These have been fixed.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Notifications not generated for folder upload #bug #fixed

 

Hello,

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:31 AM Andy Wedge <andy_wedge@...> wrote:

I just uploaded a folder containing a few files to my test subgroup. I checked the Notify Member box but no notification was generated.


This should be fixed now.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Andy Wedge
 

On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 05:36 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
CHANGE: In the Activity Log, change the word dir to folder when referring to Files Sections actions to be more consistent.
Hi Mark,

When adding a folder, the moderator notification email states 'added directory'.
When deleting a folder, the moderator notification email states 'The following files have been deleted'
When deleting a folder, the #file-notice to the group states, 'The following files have been deleted'

Waiting for a response to #25718 to view the #file-notice message when a folder is added.

Can we get some consistency here too please?

Thanks
Andy


moderated Re: Notifications not generated for folder upload #bug #fixed

Andy Wedge
 

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:40 PM, Chris Jones wrote:
Had you previously pre - configured a #file-notice hashtag or were you waiting for groups.io to create it for you?
Yes, I manually created the #file-notice hashtag to start with and set it to be moderated.  There are no pending messages after uploading so nothing to approve and release to the archive (so consequently no email sent so nothing can end up in a spam folder).

It all works fine when deleting the folder, just not when uploading.

Andy


moderated Re: Notifications not generated for folder upload #bug #fixed

Chris Jones
 

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 09:34 PM, Andy Wedge wrote:
No message was generated in the archive with a #file-notice hashtag so nothing could be sent to my member account even though I had the Notify Member checkbox ticked (#bug).
Had you previously pre - configured a #file-notice hashtag or were you waiting for groups.io to create it for you?

If the former, it would be worth checking that you haven't got an "anomalous setting", although I cannot see one that would stop the group posting, other than to have that hashtag on moderation. Perhaps check your spam box..?

Chris


moderated Re: Notifications not generated for folder upload #bug #fixed

Andy Wedge
 

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 08:27 PM, Chris Jones wrote:

All email notifications worked as expected, both "personal" and Group.
I think my terminology could have been better to start with.

I have 3 accounts in my test group (Owner, Mod & Member). I uploaded a folder and files from my Owner account. A moderator notification email was received by my Moderator account listing the files that had been uploaded (all good). No moderator notification email was received at my Owner account because notifications to the person performing the action are now suppressed (all good).  No message was generated in the archive with a #file-notice hashtag so nothing could be sent to my member account even though I had the Notify Member checkbox ticked (#bug).

Regards,
Andy





moderated Re: Notifications not generated for folder upload #bug #fixed

Chris Jones
 

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 06:31 PM, Andy Wedge wrote:
I just uploaded a folder containing a few files to my test subgroup. I checked the Notify Member box but no notification was generated.
I have just deleted a previous test folder and added a new "ditto", and separately added a file to the latter.

All email notifications worked as expected, both "personal" and Group.

Different test group, of course...

Chris


moderated Re: Notifications not generated for folder upload #bug #fixed

Andy Wedge
 

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 06:31 PM, Andy Wedge wrote:
I checked the Notify Member box but no notification was generated.
Let me clarify that, there was no message sent to the group with a #file-notice hashtag.

Regards,
Andy


moderated Notifications not generated for folder upload #bug #fixed

Andy Wedge
 

Hi Mark,

I just uploaded a folder containing a few files to my test subgroup. I checked the Notify Member box but no notification was generated.

Regards,
Andy


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Andy Wedge
 

On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 08:08 PM, Nina E wrote:
Andy and Duane: Have you seen the updated documentation of the Group Guidelines notice and the #guidelines-notice hashtag? If that info is unclear, please let me know.
Ah, the 4th checkbox only appears when the 3rd one is checked!  Hmm!   This is a different approach to the First Message Also checkbox on a member's subscription page where the checkbox is visible but not available until Following Only is selected. At least you can see that an option is possible that way but on the Guidelines Notice you can't.  Consistency?

Regards
Andy


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Nina E
 

>> Actually, it does.  4th checkbox is "Send monthly as special".

> The 4th checkbox?

You need to select the “Send monthly to group” checkbox first, then the “Send monthly as special” checkbox appears. It’s documented. :-)

 

- Nina


moderated Re: Missing reminders #bug

Don Pottenger
 

Turns out that the bug is not only not being able to add a reminder to an existing event but also you can't remove a reminder from an event either. Looks like the only way to workaround any desired change in either adding or deleting a reminder is to delete the whole event and create it again with or without the reminder.

This is very unfortunate as all aspects of the event - description, contact person info, etc. need to be reentered when you recreate the "new"/old event.


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Andy Wedge
 

On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 08:03 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
On the 1st of the month,
Thanks for confirming the date, it was as I suspected.

the process that sends out guidelines and monthly reminder emails first sets the special field of the #guidelines-notice and #monthly-notice hashtags to be the same setting as the `send monthly as special` setting on the appropriate member notice.

OK - so it goes the opposite direction to the way I thought it went from reading the changelog.

Andy


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Andy Wedge
 

On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 07:44 PM, Duane wrote:
Actually, it does.  4th checkbox is "Send monthly as special".
The 4th checkbox?



Please point that out to me.

Andy


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Nina E
 


The Group Guidelines member notice does not have an option to send it as a Special Notice so what exactly is being 'sync'ed in this case?
Actually, it does.  4th checkbox is "Send monthly as special".  I'm a bit confused as well, because it's possible to not have that checked, but still set the hashtag #guidelines-notice to Special.  Maybe that's what this sync does, but I hope Mark will clarify it.

Andy and Duane: Have you seen the updated documentation of the Group Guidelines notice and the #guidelines-notice hashtag? If that info is unclear, please let me know.

- Nina


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

 

On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 11:44 AM Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 01:34 PM, Andy Wedge wrote:
The Group Guidelines member notice does not have an option to send it as a Special Notice so what exactly is being 'sync'ed in this case?
Actually, it does.  4th checkbox is "Send monthly as special".  I'm a bit confused as well, because it's possible to not have that checked, but still set the hashtag #guidelines-notice to Special.  Maybe that's what this sync does, but I hope Mark will clarify it.

On the 1st of the month, the process that sends out guidelines and monthly reminder emails first sets the special field of the #guidelines-notice and #monthly-notice hashtags to be the same setting as the `send monthly as special` setting on the appropriate member notice.

Hope this helps.
Mark 


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Duane
 

On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 01:34 PM, Andy Wedge wrote:
The Group Guidelines member notice does not have an option to send it as a Special Notice so what exactly is being 'sync'ed in this case?
Actually, it does.  4th checkbox is "Send monthly as special".  I'm a bit confused as well, because it's possible to not have that checked, but still set the hashtag #guidelines-notice to Special.  Maybe that's what this sync does, but I hope Mark will clarify it.

Duane


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Andy Wedge
 

On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 05:36 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
CHANGE: For #guidelines-notice and #monthly-notice hashtags, sync the hashtag special field to the member notice special field every month.
I'm a bit confused by this one, on three points:

  • A 'sync' implies two-way updates but the 'to' reference suggests a one-way update copying from the hashtag details 'to' the member notice details
  • The Group Guidelines member notice does not have an option to send it as a Special Notice so what exactly is being 'sync'ed in this case?
  • At what point in the month is this 'sync' supposed to take place? I'm guessing the 1st of each month as that would tie in with some other 'monthly' activities but it would be nice to get confirmation.

Thanks
Andy

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