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Rick N
Andy, I've never seen "Past" listed before. Do you have a top-tier (paid) group? Rick
On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 6:17 PM Andy Wedge <andy_wedge@...> wrote:
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On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 05:15 PM, Rick Nakroshis wrote:
Sure thing. Attached is a screenshot of my permissions on that groupThanks. That set of permissions gives me Moderators, Bouncing, Banned and Past which wasn't mentioned before. However, I can recreate the issue and I'd say it's definitely a bug. As you said, when the Ban Members permission is in effect, it works OK. Without the Ban Members permission you get this after clicking the Members option on the left side menu:  You will note that there are 4 other options, including Banned, on the drop-down. If you select Banned here, then you see this:  Now there are 5 options and this time it also includes Members. It seems Groups.io knows that the selected option is not Members (so it now appears in the drop-down) but without the Ban Members permission, it will not display the Banned list. The result is the malformed button and it still shows the member list. After further testing, I found it's possible to recreate this issue if either Set Member Subscription Options or Set Moderator Privileges is checked. I'm sure Mark will be able to resolve this when he returns from holiday. Regards, Andy
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Rick N
Sure thing. Attached is a screenshot of my permissions on that group. Without 'Ban users' permission, attempting to display users that are banned will cause the incorrect display noted. Enabling it will allow it to display properly. Rick
On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 3:46 AM Andy Wedge <andy_wedge@...> wrote: On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 11:15 PM, Rick Nakroshis wrote:
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That’s true, since web/app won’t be sent to me. Also avoids the delay lol.
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On Jul 3, 2020, at 10:54 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@gmail.com> wrote: --
J Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones. My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu
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On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 11:15 PM, Rick Nakroshis wrote:
If I am not allowed to Ban members, the Members button offers choices of Moderators, Bouncing, and Banned. Selecting Banned causes the blue button to lose the alphabetical label and every member is listed.Can you share a screenshot of your moderator permissions? As yet, I haven't found a combination of Moderator permissions that gives me just Moderators, Bouncing and Banned when clicking the Members button. Thanks, Andy
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J,
It's the combination of the notification going to the person who didI don't find it to be irritating, but you can avoid both issues by choosing Web/app notification instead of email. Of course that has the downside that you (generally) don't have a record of the events that happened while you were sleeping or otherwise occupied. I say "generally" because your OS or device may have a means to keep and review a log of recent web/app notifications. Shal
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DeniseD,
I thought we were given the option to have it go through the group orIt only goes to the group if the person who uploads the file checks the "Notify Members" box (and the group hasn't set #file-notice to moderated). Moderators can control if and how they receive Moderator Notices of various types through controls on their Subscription page. There's a summary of the Notification controls here: https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/21482 (the Wiki is public, no logon or membership required) Shal
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On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 02:46 PM, Andy Wedge wrote:
That's true for browser push notifications as I understand it, but as you found out, you still get the email several minutes later.Right. And like you, I think the delay reduces its usefulness, and in the case of the notification going to the moderator who did the action, the delay makes it actually pretty useless (as well as irritating). It's the combination of the notification going to the person who did the action plus the delay. They compound each other. -- J Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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Rick N
I'm curious behind your rationale for this position. Is it due to the particular moderators you have in that one group? Why would it be acceptable for them to know who is currently a member, but not know who was either prevented from joining or removed for cause and blocked from rejoining? I can certainly understand why a group owner/designated moderator limits who can approve, remove, or ban members, but why would even knowing who wants to join be restricted information? I don't mean to be quarrelsome, just curious. You're right that being able to finely tune the moderator's abilities would be best of all. Rick
On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 4:09 PM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote: On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 12:49 PM, Rick Nakroshis wrote:
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DeniseD <denisedavidson98@...>
Thanks for that
On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 8:06 AM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
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Rick N
I tested it again, and it still has the problems I reported. If I am not allowed to Ban members, the Members button offers choices of Moderators, Bouncing, and Banned. Selecting Banned causes the blue button to lose the alphabetical label and every member is listed.
If I am allowed to Ban members, the Members button offers choices of Moderators, Bouncing, and Banned. Selecting Banned causes the blue button to display 'Banned' and there is no one listed, as expected. Rick
On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 6:38 PM Andy Wedge <andy_wedge@...> wrote: On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 08:49 PM, Rick Nakroshis wrote:
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No, it’s not going to the group. Just the moderator.
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On Jul 3, 2020, at 2:55 PM, DeniseD <denisedavidson98@...> wrote:
-- J Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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DeniseD <denisedavidson98@...>
I totally agree. I thought we were given the option to have it go through the group or not but regardless it is going through the group. Very annoying
On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 2:52 AM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote: I honestly can't keep track any more of what is and isn't supposed to happen, but I was under the impression that if someone did action, they would not receive notification for the action. I just uploaded a file, and about ten minutes later received an email notification that a file had been uploaded. This is not only useless but also annoying.
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On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 05:52 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
but I was under the impression that if someone did action, they would not receive notification for the action.That's true for browser push notifications as I understand it, but as you found out, you still get the email several minutes later. Andy
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Chris Jones
On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 05:52 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
I honestly can't keep track any more of what is and isn't supposed to happen...IIRC not receiving a notification of something that you have done yourself applies to push notifications, not emailed ones. I am also having problems working things out; see this thread. I am still investigating, but it is a long process and I have to (a) await for the "aggregation delay" each time and (b) stop regularly in the hope of working out what I have and have not seen. IMHO as things stand the "Notifications" have the potential to cause more than a little confusion. Chris
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I honestly can't keep track any more of what is and isn't supposed to happen, but I was under the impression that if someone did action, they would not receive notification for the action. I just uploaded a file, and about ten minutes later received an email notification that a file had been uploaded. This is not only useless but also annoying.
-- J Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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moderated
Re: Databases
#suggestion
#done
Bob Bellizzi
Mark,
July 2, 2020 Not Done! on Premium Groups, Database Column Headers STILL scroll off the top of the screen in Map Mode -- Bob Bellizzi
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Missed the fix since I was not following the thread until I responded. Great that it was fixed so fast. :)
-- J Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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If this is true, it's a very bad bug and needs to be fixed asap! thanks!
On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 9:10 AM Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote: On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 06:16 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote: --
J Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 09:10 AM, Duane wrote:
This should be fixed now. Thanks, Mark
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