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moderated Re: Create +mute, +follow, and +unfollow group addresses, use in message footers. #suggestion

 

J,

Would that run a ... risk that people who get hold of an email ... but
are [not] the actual original recipient ... could act on that
recipient's account?
No.

To do anything of the sort they'd have to forge the original recipient's From address. If they can do that then they can use any of the email addresses, including +unsubscribe. This vulnerability is closed off by the fact that all such "email commands" (I call them) send a confirmation request with reply required.

Shal


moderated Re: Create +mute, +follow, and +unfollow group addresses, use in message footers. #suggestion

 

On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 09:41 AM, J_Catlady wrote:
but are the actual original recipient
typo, should read: "but are not the actual original recipient"
 
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J

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moderated Re: Create +mute, +follow, and +unfollow group addresses, use in message footers. #suggestion

 

Would that run a (previously mentioned) risk that people who get hold of an email (e.g., through forwarding) but are the actual original recipient (or even group members, possibly) could act on that recipient's account?
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J

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My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Create +mute, +follow, and +unfollow group addresses, use in message footers. #suggestion

 

Mark,

One of the complaints about the notification overhaul is that many members are email-only, and have no way to mute undesired notifications. The links in message footers are not a solution because they are web links, and one must log in to complete the action.

Granted that logging in is very easy with Groups.io, many members refuse or are extremely reluctant to do so, seeing it as an unnecessary imposition on their enjoyment of group messages.

Converting the message footer links to mailto: links, using new group addresses +mute, +follow, and +unfollow seems like a workable solution to these concerns. The topic number or hashtag in question can be put in the Subject text of the created message.

Shal


moderated Re: Testing notifications #misc

Andy Wedge
 

On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 11:07 AM, Lena wrote:
For this reason I dislike the group's subject tag in _moderator_ notifications. Group name in From was enough.
Hi Lena

the group subject tag was added to the push notifications as without it, it was not possible to determine which group it was from:

Before:


After:



From what I can see, the subject tag was always sent on email notifications so that hasn't changed.

Regards
Andy


moderated Re: Testing notifications #misc

 

All notification titles now are prefixed by the group's subject tag.
Hm... That will take some getting used to. Not saying it is a bad idea.
Now they look so much more like ordinary group messages.
For this reason I dislike the group's subject tag in _moderator_ notifications. Group name in From was enough.

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Lena


moderated Re: Notifications about your own actions #misc

 

Not sure about this one, but I just got a web/app notification of a new member, when I was the one who approved the new member. So do we want this? Again, it's nothing I can't live with but seems disconcerting. I was the one who did the approval action, but the description is along the lines of "there's a new member" and doesn't directly mention the approval.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Database column headers obscuring description text #bug #fixed

Andy Wedge
 

Hi Mark,

the changes to fix the column header row now obscure the description text if it is multi-line. If there are just 2 or 3 lines of description text, the 'show less' link is also obscured:



Regards,
Andy


moderated Re: Databases #suggestion #done

Peter Rawbone
 

Hello Mark,

Many thanks, just what I hoped for.  Thanks for getting my drift!

Enjoy the weekend
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Peter


moderated Re: Databases #suggestion #done

Thomas Gruber
 

Hi Mark,
The mobile app shows a very nice implementation of this: the table (contents) is a separate scrolling area, the heading and the surrounding part of the web site remain in place when you scroll in the table.
The web app doesn‘t quite do this, at least when I look at it in Chrome on iPad:
The whole page scrolls up, until the header row of the table hits the upper edge of the screen. Then, only the contents of the table and the footer part are scrolled further. 
Thomas

Am 27.06.2020 um 00:55 schrieb Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io>:



On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 06:05 AM, Peter Rawbone wrote:

Is it possible to ‘freeze’ the top row of a database a la Excel etc?  It is particularly irksome when editing or viewing an entry and then wondering what the column is?  If you get my drift.

Done.

Cheers, Mark


moderated Re: Testing notifications #misc

Andy Wedge
 

On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 11:52 PM, Shal Farley wrote:
The web notifications are transient: here and gone on my screen in a few seconds. They don't need combining because they don't build up anywhere.
Apart from the Windows 10 Action Centre where you can control how many you want and their priority:



Regards,
Andy


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Thomas Gruber
 

Tested on iPad - works in Chrome, but not in Safari. Will test on a „real“ computer later :-)

Thomas

Am 27.06.2020 um 02:24 schrieb Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io>:


"I will not do last minute new features on a Friday afternoon. I will not do last minute new features on a Friday afternoon. I will not do las..."

Forgot to check in a file. Hopefully should work now.

Mark


moderated Re: Testing notifications #misc

Chris Jones
 

On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 06:40 AM, Shal Farley wrote:
Then the originator decides when he/she is "done enough" to notify the rest of the members.
A provision for the originator to click OK; I'm finished, Send Notification would be just about ideal! :)

Chris


moderated Re: Testing notifications #misc

 

Chris,

The only solutions ... would be one in which the notification was sent
after (say) 10 minutes *in*activity on the part of the originator, or
perhaps one whereby the originator was prompted by /Send Notification
Now?/ somewhere.
A simpler solution would be to keep the "Notify Members" checkboxes where they are, and implement them where they aren't. Then the originator decides when he/she is "done enough" to notify the rest of the members.

Shal


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Bob Bellizzi
 

I'm so sad you'll be mad but it doesn't work in that mode sorry thanks for fixing it in list mode
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Bob Bellizzi


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

 

"I will not do last minute new features on a Friday afternoon. I will not do last minute new features on a Friday afternoon. I will not do las..."

Forgot to check in a file. Hopefully should work now.

Mark


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Bob Bellizzi
 

On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 04:04 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
NEW: When viewing a database table, pin the header at the top of the page.
titles still scroll up and disappear in both list and map modes
 
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Bob Bellizzi


moderated Re: Site updates #changelog

Duane
 

On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 06:04 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
NEW: When viewing a database table, pin the header at the top of the page.
Not working for me.  Tried 4 different tables on 2 groups. (Win7 with Firefox)

Thanks,
Duane


moderated Site updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site this week:

  • CHANGE: Various moderator email and push notification cleanups.
  • NEW: When viewing a database table, pin the header at the top of the page.
  • BUGFIX: When deleting a database row from the /table view, we did not log that in the activity log.
  • NEW: New Moderator Notifications for changes to Chats/Photos/Files/Wikis/Databases. Currently in testing.

Note: I will be on vacation next week, although I plan on enabling the new moderator notifications for everyone on Monday if there are no issues found during testing over the weekend.

Take care everyone.

Mark


moderated Plus add a "Follow" link to the footer of the web UI #suggestion

Tom Field
 

When a user has the Following Only radio button selected on the Advanced Preferences screen, they should be able to follow a topic by clicking on a "Follow" button at the bottom of each message.

Currently, there's a Follow link in emails, but not elsewhere, AFAIK.

This was discussed last fall here: https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/46661487?p=Created,,,20,2,0,0. 

Tom 

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