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Self-explanatory. A member of my group is on "moderate every message of every topic this person starts" but the topics aren't showing the "moderated" icon.
-- J Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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On Group Home Page, move Group Email Addresses block to same area as Group Information and Group Settings blocks
#suggestion
#done
On the home pages of my groups, the Group Email Address list/block is at the bottom of the page, often "below the fold" and Message History. I suggest this list be moved up to be at the same area/panel as Group Information and Group Settings.
This would be also be helpful for new members who visit the home page to see all the group information in one place. I note that on the Beta Group, all these group lists/blocks are below the Message History. Thank you.
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Re: Add option to Bcc Moderators when banning or rejecting pending requests
#suggestion
Chris Jones
On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 06:22 PM, Andy Wedge wrote:
However, when performing actions like banning or rejecting a member a message is also sent to the member (if an active notice is defined} but there is no option to Bcc: anyone.Andy; a very worthwhile observation IMHO. There is, however, another related anomaly lurking in the background! As a moderator I have the option of being notified when anyone joins or leaves a group from the pick list of Notifications. Should the rejection of an application or the banning of a member also be on the same pick list or should they be at the discretion of whoever does the rejection or banning via the bcc mechanism? Both might be a bit messy and I have no fixed view on which might be better. I certainly think your suggestion is worthy of inclusion whichever method is considered. Chris
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Re: Site updates
#changelog
On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 05:05 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
NEW: Hashtag list view shows mute/follow duration. Also, redid the mute/follow hashtag screens.Hi Mark, I like the new addition on the hashtag list view and the modified mute/follow hashtag screen when arrived at via Groups.io icon in the top left corner. However, a Mute #hashtag link in an email footer contains a subid parameter and using this I get a different screen where the group name that the Mute applies to is not shown. At the very least it's confusing to have different layouts and if muting via a link in an email footer is supposed to apply to all groups it needs to be clear. Regards, Andy
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Site updates
#changelog
Changes to the site this week:
Take care everyone. Mark
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Re: New notifications proposal
#misc
Hi Shal, On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 02:12 AM, Shal Farley wrote:
As are the file upload notifications. We've already got this mix of messages and notifications. What that also means is that the message archive is also the activity feed for the group, the place where a member can go to see everything that has happened in the group (yes, ignoring for the moment notifications that do not yet exist, like wiki updates). For better or worse, this is also how Facebook Groups is structured. I think the concept of an activity feed is important for the group, and if we end up pulling all the notifications out of the message archive, then I think we would need to create a new activity feed view somewhere.
Yes, that's correct. Muting would just be another form of notification control.
I've added a new list view to the group hashtag page, and that preference is remembered automatically. I'm definitely open to suggestions for how to better structure that page should we go the hashtags-for-notifications route, including adding bulk operation controls. I have tried to think of other ways to do notifications, and I have been unable to come up with anything better or more straightforward. Take #cal-invite messages, for example. If the notification and hashtag muting settings are separate (and in separate areas of the site), you'd end up with some duplicate functionality. If I want nothing to do with #cal-invite messages, I'd have to mute the hashtag, and then I'd also have to go and make sure I'm not receiving any notifications about them. Also, adding hashtags to existing moderator notifications makes it a little easier to identify which notification is which when changing the notification setting. I'm definitely open to considering other ideas, but I haven't been able to come up with anything else that feels as straightforward as this. Please let me know what you think. Thanks, Mark
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Re: Updated Event: Email delivery interruption #downtime - Friday, 5 June 2020
#downtime
#cal-invite
On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 05:08 PM, "main@beta.groups.io Calendar" <main@beta.groups.io> wrote:
the email delivery database corrupted itselfThat's a good trick! :-) -- J Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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Updated Event: Email delivery interruption #downtime - Friday, 5 June 2020
#downtime
#cal-invite
main@beta.groups.io Calendar <main@...>
Email delivery interruption #downtime When: Description: During a routine software upgrade, the email delivery database corrupted itself. I had to take the email server off-line in order to restore the database. No email messages were lost.
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Re: Need for Better Quality Photo Viewing
#done
Rpilla
That was an insanely good move!!! Thank you. You are awesome
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Working for me in Houston now. Thanks.
-- Jim
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Missing entries in Notices list when sending a message
#misc
Hi,
I'm raising this as #misc as I'm not sure if it's a bug or not. When sending a message to a member from the membership list my drop-down Notices field only lists 5 of the 14 messages I have defined. There is a mixture of active and inactive notices, and not all notice types I have defined are listed. Are there any criteria defined to determine what should appear in the Notices list or not? Andy
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Add option to Bcc Moderators when banning or rejecting pending requests
#suggestion
Hi Mark,
As an owner/moderator I get the options to 'Bcc: Me' and 'Bcc: All Moderators' when sending a message to a member from the membership list. However, when performing actions like banning or rejecting a member a message is also sent to the member (if an active notice is defined} but there is no option to Bcc: anyone. Unlike rejecting a pending message, the message text is not recorded in the Activity log either so there's no proper audit trail. If we can get an option to Bcc: others (and also perhaps record the text in the Activity Log) that would be helpful. Thanks, Andy
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Re: Need for Better Quality Photo Viewing
#done
Hi All, I've made the following changes: For new photos uploaded, the thumbnails will be resized to a max of 2048 on their longest side. Previously it was 720. This is the image that is displayed in the single photo view. I also decreased the JPEG quality to 90, from 96. Best I can tell, this is what Flickr does. Again, this will only apply to photos uploaded starting now. Cheers, Mark
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Re: Email Logging Omission
#bug
Chris Jones
On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 09:15 AM, Chris Jones wrote:
FWIW ISTR that there is a similar gap in the delivery logging if a moderator sends an email to a member from the web UI; the message is logged for the member but not for the copy addressees.I'll retract that, but the overall situation remains somewhat confusing. I have carried out a number of tests with the following results: A Rejected Message notification is recorded in the Activity log, but does not appear in the Email Delivery History of either the person whose message was rejected or the moderators to whom it was copied. A Message to Member is not recorded in the Activity log but does appear in the Email Delivery History of the member concerned and those of the moderators to whom a copy is sent. Mark; is there a reason for the different logging methods? While admitting that the time window for any investigation can be limited by only the most recent message to someone being visible, on the face of it it is a bit perverse that the different types of message are logged differently. Is the support address still only handling queries from paid groups or has it been broadened? Obviously my problem with copies of rejection messages not being sent to me is hardly one for beta; having said that while rejection copies don't appear, copies of Messages to Members do. Curiouser and curiouser, said Alice... Chris
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KenK
The Daily Summaries are working again for me. I am in the midwest US.
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Re: Need for Better Quality Photo Viewing
#done
Rpilla
I understand this is a system wide issues but wanted to add my concern about the quality of resampled images. I have been on Flickr since 2006 and have enjoyed the quality of their resampling software for many years. I understand this type of software take time and money to develop, but the technology has been around for a good number of years. I also understand IO is a smaller organization than Yahoo or Flickr, but it would be sweet to see some investment in some proper photo displaying.
Thank you Rpilla
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Re: Email Logging Omission
#bug
Chris Jones
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 11:47 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
But the email delivery history [sic] contains only the last message received. Right? Isn't it possible other messages were received after the rejection notification?Knowing (or at least strongly suspecting) that there was some sort of problem I checked my own and other moderators' delivery histories less than a couple of minutes after I ought to have received my own copy of the rejection notification. Of course there ws nothing logged. I agree that the very limited snapshot of email deliveries (other than recent bounces) can be a bit frustrating but being able to carry out an immediate check was useful. What took rather longer was being able to verify that other moderators had received their copies... several hours in fact. FWIW ISTR that there is a similar gap in the delivery logging if a moderator sends an email to a member from the web UI; the message is logged for the member but not for the copy addressees. There is not a problem if all the copies are correctly delivered but if one isn't then questions arise... Chris
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On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 12:16 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
(it runs in about 2 minutes for US East now instead of 1.5 hours)Is this the same underlying code that generates Digests also? There was a suggestion that reports of receiving 13 messages in a Digest could be due to extra messages being received between the time a Digest was triggered and the time it completed. If this is the same underlying code and it is now more efficient, the chances of 13 messages in a Digest would be reduced. Andy
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Bob Bellizzi
Reentrant code might let them run concurrently if one lagged.
-- Bob Bellizzi
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Hi All, I think I've tracked down and fixed the missing summaries bug. The program that generates the summaries runs every hour and generates the summaries for people with the appropriate timezone for that hour. The problem was that sometimes, especially for the US East and West coasts, those summary runs would take longer than an hour, because of the number of summaries generated. This was causing problems for the following hour (mainly midwest US people). I've re-written the program so that it's much more efficient now (it runs in about 2 minutes for US East now instead of 1.5 hours). Hopefully this should fix the missing summaries bug. Thanks, Mark
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