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moderated Donation fee change #update

 

Hi All,
 
Until now, the fee structure for donations was a flat 5%, which included Stripe's credit card fees. Given that Stripe's fees are 2.9% + $0.30, smaller donations ended up costing us money. Which even I realize isn't a good way to run a business. Queue Homer Simpson "D'oh!".
 
The fee structure for new donation requests is 2% plus Stripe's credit card fees. Existing donation requests (I believe there are 2 or 3 active at the moment) are unchanged. That is, any donations made to an existing donation request will be at the previous fee structure.
 
Please let me know if you have any questions.
 
Mark


moderated Wiki image align right not being saved #bug

jay@...
 

When editing a wiki page I am able to highlight an image and choose "align right". The editor shows the image aligned right and the "source code" reveals the CSS style of "float:right" - which is what I wanted. 

However, when the page is saved the style is not retained and the image returns back to the left-hand-side with no float style attached.


moderated Re: safari warns groups.io certificate expired, site "may be impersonating" groups.io etc. #misc

 

Yep, I can get in using safari now, which makes me tempted to delay the inevitable (an OS upgrade;)
Thanks!
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J

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My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Gmail and Zimbra contacts #suggestion

ira k
 

#suggestion I would like to export contacts from gmail and zimbra to group members in groups in groups.io

Ira Kemp

[Mod note: Added the subject.]


moderated Display of yesterday's dates and times #suggestion

Mark Irving
 

The Groups.io compact display of times or dates works well to save screen space but could be improved for use on any mouse-less display such as a tablet or a smartphone.

At present, the time of day is shown provided it is after midnight (in the preference timezone, usually), and just the date if earlier. The full date and time is shown as a tooltip if the mouse or similar pointer hovers over the area. On a tablet or phone with no pointer, though, a time within yesterday is not visible. I can't easily judge at breakfast time whether a thread was added to early yesterday evening (when I read it), or late in the evening (which I would like to look at).

I suggest that the "today" format should be used for date-time values up to 22 hours old, rather than those before local midnight. This would convey a little more information without ambiguity and without using more screen space. (I suggest 22 hours, rather than 24, to allow for daylight saving time changes and a bit.)

The same change could usefully be applied to the step between month+day and year date displays: change at 12 months (or possibly a little less, above) old, not on New Year's Day. It's clear enough today (in June) that July 4 means last year, not next month.

Worth adding - Groups.io provides an excellent service. Thank you!

 - Mark, Cambridgeshire, UK


moderated Re: safari warns groups.io certificate expired, site "may be impersonating" groups.io etc. #misc

 

Hi All,

I've upgraded the certificates on the site.

Cheers, Mark


moderated Re: Daily Summary not being sent to some people #bug #fixed

 

Hi All,

I have so far been unable to track down this bug. I've added a bunch more debugging logging to the code and the next step is to let it run overnight when it should be generating digests to see what it shows. I'll update tomorrow.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Times shown in Feed list ignore timezone #bug #fixed

 

Hi,

This has been fixed.

Mark


moderated Times shown in Feed list ignore timezone #bug #fixed

Mark Irving
 

When I compare my Feed page and my Your Groups page from Groups.io, the times shown for messages are not in the same time zone. For example, Your Groups shows my top message as 08:47 while the same message in the Feed is shown as 00:47, eight hours different. My display preferences show time zone UTC+01:00; just guessing the feed is stuck on Pacific Time PDT (UTC-07:00). I would expect both pages to show times according to my preferred timezone.

 - Mark


moderated Re: Daily Summary not being sent to some people #bug #fixed

Jim Wilson
 

I forgot to mention that I have never muted a topic.

This issue is reported on GMF here and here.

Jim


moderated Re: Daily Summary not being sent to some people #bug #fixed

Jim Wilson
 

I have not been able to receive Daily Summaries for GMF, this group or any other group for which I had Daily Summary set. This happened after the morning of 5/20/2020 when I received the last ones. I changed to Individual Messages and received those but I switched back to Daily Summary and now nothing again.

Jim


moderated Re: safari warns groups.io certificate expired, site "may be impersonating" groups.io etc. #misc

Michael Pavan
 

Oops, I mixed up which Safari goes with which OS,
I should have said:

OS X 10.15.5 Catalina is a 64-bit based OS.
It won't run on any Mac older than 2012, and in the case of the Mac Pro, late 2013.

If you have apps that will not function on 64-bit, do not upgrade beyond OS X 10.14.6 Mojave (the last 32-bit)
(My choice for my 2017 MacBookPro)
Safari 13.1.1 is the latest for this OS (and Catalina)

If you have "Storage Medium Type: Rotational"
(i.e. a Hard Disk Drive, HDD - rather than a Solid-State Drive, SSD)
it is advised to not update beyond OS X 10.11.6 El Capitan
(My choice for my mid 2010 MacBookPro)
Safari 11.1.2 is the latest for this OS


moderated Re: safari warns groups.io certificate expired, site "may be impersonating" groups.io etc. #misc

Michael Pavan
 

OS X 10.15.5 Catalina is a 64-bit based OS.
It won't run on any Mac older than 2012, and in the case of the Mac Pro, late 2013.

If you have apps that will not function on 64-bit, do not upgrade beyond OS X 10.14.6 Mojave (the last 32-bit)
(My choice for my 2017 MacBookPro)
Safari 11.1.2 is the latest for this OS

If you have "Storage Medium Type: Rotational"
(i.e. a Hard Disk Drive, HDD - rather than a Solid-State Drive, SSD)
it is advised to not update beyond OS X 10.11.6 El Capitan
(My choice for my mid 2010 MacBookPro)
Safari 13.1.1 is the latest for this OS (and Catalina)


moderated Re: safari warns groups.io certificate expired, site "may be impersonating" groups.io etc. #misc

 

Patti,
I'll PM you but it's been determined that the certificate is fine and this is my safari. I can't even view videos on FB any more and even FB informs me that I must switch to "an up to date browser." Nevertheless, I won't look a gift horse in the mouth (pun intended - I know you're a horse person!) and may PM you later. I've even received a generous offer from another IT person on beta who's willing to hold my hand during the OS update (something I'm dreading;) Beta is wonderful!
J

On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 1:23 PM Patti Woodbury <deserthorses@...> wrote:
J - my son (he's an IT manager and bit of a MAC/Safari guru) feels this is "something else" - and not related to the age of either your machine or version of Safari. It would be easier to investigate offline if you would feel comfortable pm-ing me; could then be more specific in some back and forth of what to look for, etc., if its a serious issue or not, etc.
Everything about the certificate, issuer, etc. is valid and up to date.

Patti in AZ


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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: safari warns groups.io certificate expired, site "may be impersonating" groups.io etc. #misc

 

J - my son (he's an IT manager and bit of a MAC/Safari guru) feels this is "something else" - and not related to the age of either your machine or version of Safari. It would be easier to investigate offline if you would feel comfortable pm-ing me; could then be more specific in some back and forth of what to look for, etc., if its a serious issue or not, etc.
Everything about the certificate, issuer, etc. is valid and up to date.

Patti in AZ


moderated Re: safari warns groups.io certificate expired, site "may be impersonating" groups.io etc. #misc

 

Right, Patti, rhanks. It's clear now that it's my old version of Safari (forced on me by my old OS) that's causing my problem. I need to upgrade to Cataline but am scared to do it. It's becoming more and more clear that I need to bite that bullet soon.


On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 12:26 PM Patti Woodbury <deserthorses@...> wrote:


MacBook Pro ten years old running High Sierra 10.13.6

Patti


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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: safari warns groups.io certificate expired, site "may be impersonating" groups.io etc. #misc

 



MacBook Pro ten years old running High Sierra 10.13.6

Patti


moderated Re: Daily Summary not being sent to some people #bug #fixed

 

Hi Duane,

On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 12:07 PM Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
It's not happening to everyone, but many are reporting that some members are no longer getting the Daily Summary (DS).  It seems to have started on May 20 or 21.  I tried changing my subscription on a couple of groups and it worked fine.  It seems to only be those that were already on DS on that date, but I can't confirm that.

Please send me the email addresses of the people not receiving the summaries (and their groups) off-list and I'll investigate.

That week I did fix a bug; muted topics had been included in summaries before, and now they are not. Maybe that's it?

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Daily Summary not being sent to some people #bug #fixed

Duane
 

It's not happening to everyone, but many are reporting that some members are no longer getting the Daily Summary (DS).  It seems to have started on May 20 or 21.  I tried changing my subscription on a couple of groups and it worked fine.  It seems to only be those that were already on DS on that date, but I can't confirm that.

Thanks,
Duane


moderated Re: The ability to resize all uploaded Photos, or even a a single Photo #suggestion

Paul Fox
 

I need to report back to my group about our Photos situation.

Can I ask (and I guess this is directed directly at Mark) what the
probability is of either one of these two things happening, sometime,
say, in the next few months?
1) Some sort of online photo resizing feature is implemented, as
discussed in this thread. (Solutions involving a one-time
payment included.)
or
2) Basic (free) group Photo storage is (at least) doubled.

Our (Wheeler and Wilson Sewing Machines) current situation is this:
- Our group is currently over limit, and even the very cumbersome
download/re-upload trick can't be used because even after
deleting the original, the Add button is still grayed out.
- A downloaded copy of our Photo archive takes 1.2G. If I bulk
resize that collection to 1024x1024, it takes just .25G, or
20% of its former space.
- The group was formed in 2013, so it took 7 years to collect
that many photos. We could go on as normal for a very long
time if we could resize, or if storage was increased even
modestly.

Our other option, of course, is to start paying. Almost more than the
cost, it's that the logistics of having to solicit the funds from the
members every year seems daunting to me. The donations feature seems
like it should help, but I'm not really interested in setting up
a back account and Swipe account. Is there a way to use the Donations
feature to have donations go directly to groups.io on behalf of a
given group's annual fee?

paul

I wrote:
> chris jones via groups.io wrote:
> > On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 04:51 PM, paul fox wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Ownership of the files would likely be lost (I assume the zip file
> > > wouldn't contain that information), but it could be probably be restored
> > > by group admins on an as-needed basis.
> >
> > And what about any additional text that might have been added for
> > various photographs? I know that many "uploaders" are lazy when it
>
> Good point. As it turns out that the downloaded zip file (I fetched
> one, to see what it looked like) contains a json file for each folder
> and image containing the original datestamp and description fields.
>
> Example:
> {"Created":"2016-01-12T20:14:10-08:00","Name":"Edge.jpg", \
> "Desc":"This View shows how the Wood is tapered for Better Fit"}
>
> It's not hard to imagine an import process that honored that json file.
>
> > comes to tidying up photographs names and adding explanatory text,
> > but those that are diligent should not have to see their efforts
> > come to nothing.
> >
> > If any change is to be requested, IMHO it ought to be resizing in situ.
>
> Obviously that would be optimal.
>
> And actually, as much as I'd love a bulk resize, I think a per-file
> button on the edit box might be better: we have photos in our
> Photos section that are scans of antique newspapers and manuals. Those
> should probably remain big, and should have gone to the Files section
> in the first place. But I'd hate to lose their detail in a bulk operation.
>
> paul
>
> =----------------------
> paul fox, pgf@foxharp.boston.ma.us (arlington, ma, where it's 77.2 degrees)
>
>
>
>


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paul fox, pgf@foxharp.boston.ma.us (arlington, ma, where it's 58.8 degrees)

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