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moderated Re: Daily Summary not being sent to some people #bug #fixed

 

Hi Duane,

On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 12:07 PM Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
It's not happening to everyone, but many are reporting that some members are no longer getting the Daily Summary (DS).  It seems to have started on May 20 or 21.  I tried changing my subscription on a couple of groups and it worked fine.  It seems to only be those that were already on DS on that date, but I can't confirm that.

Please send me the email addresses of the people not receiving the summaries (and their groups) off-list and I'll investigate.

That week I did fix a bug; muted topics had been included in summaries before, and now they are not. Maybe that's it?

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Daily Summary not being sent to some people #bug #fixed

Duane
 

It's not happening to everyone, but many are reporting that some members are no longer getting the Daily Summary (DS).  It seems to have started on May 20 or 21.  I tried changing my subscription on a couple of groups and it worked fine.  It seems to only be those that were already on DS on that date, but I can't confirm that.

Thanks,
Duane


moderated Re: The ability to resize all uploaded Photos, or even a a single Photo #suggestion

paul fox
 

I need to report back to my group about our Photos situation.

Can I ask (and I guess this is directed directly at Mark) what the
probability is of either one of these two things happening, sometime,
say, in the next few months?
1) Some sort of online photo resizing feature is implemented, as
discussed in this thread. (Solutions involving a one-time
payment included.)
or
2) Basic (free) group Photo storage is (at least) doubled.

Our (Wheeler and Wilson Sewing Machines) current situation is this:
- Our group is currently over limit, and even the very cumbersome
download/re-upload trick can't be used because even after
deleting the original, the Add button is still grayed out.
- A downloaded copy of our Photo archive takes 1.2G. If I bulk
resize that collection to 1024x1024, it takes just .25G, or
20% of its former space.
- The group was formed in 2013, so it took 7 years to collect
that many photos. We could go on as normal for a very long
time if we could resize, or if storage was increased even
modestly.

Our other option, of course, is to start paying. Almost more than the
cost, it's that the logistics of having to solicit the funds from the
members every year seems daunting to me. The donations feature seems
like it should help, but I'm not really interested in setting up
a back account and Swipe account. Is there a way to use the Donations
feature to have donations go directly to groups.io on behalf of a
given group's annual fee?

paul

I wrote:
> chris jones via groups.io wrote:
> > On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 04:51 PM, paul fox wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Ownership of the files would likely be lost (I assume the zip file
> > > wouldn't contain that information), but it could be probably be restored
> > > by group admins on an as-needed basis.
> >
> > And what about any additional text that might have been added for
> > various photographs? I know that many "uploaders" are lazy when it
>
> Good point. As it turns out that the downloaded zip file (I fetched
> one, to see what it looked like) contains a json file for each folder
> and image containing the original datestamp and description fields.
>
> Example:
> {"Created":"2016-01-12T20:14:10-08:00","Name":"Edge.jpg", \
> "Desc":"This View shows how the Wood is tapered for Better Fit"}
>
> It's not hard to imagine an import process that honored that json file.
>
> > comes to tidying up photographs names and adding explanatory text,
> > but those that are diligent should not have to see their efforts
> > come to nothing.
> >
> > If any change is to be requested, IMHO it ought to be resizing in situ.
>
> Obviously that would be optimal.
>
> And actually, as much as I'd love a bulk resize, I think a per-file
> button on the edit box might be better: we have photos in our
> Photos section that are scans of antique newspapers and manuals. Those
> should probably remain big, and should have gone to the Files section
> in the first place. But I'd hate to lose their detail in a bulk operation.
>
> paul
>
> =----------------------
> paul fox, pgf@... (arlington, ma, where it's 77.2 degrees)
>
>
>
>


=----------------------
paul fox, pgf@... (arlington, ma, where it's 58.8 degrees)


moderated Identify groupname and memberuid in activity log for "left via web" entries #suggestion

Andy Wedge
 

Hi Mark,

When a member leaves a subgroup or main group the entry in a downloaded activity log is just in the format "UserDisplayName <UserEmailAddress> left via web".  This is at odds with all other activities which identify the (sub)group name and memberuid. Can we have the (sub)group and memberuid details shown on "left via web" entries please?

I do a monthly analysis of my main and subgroups by downloading the activity logs, rolling them up into one file and using a few Excel formulas to extract information. At present it's not possible to distinguish between someone leaving a subgroup and someone leaving the main group because the activity log entries are the same.

Thanks,
Andy


moderated Re: safari warns groups.io certificate expired, site "may be impersonating" groups.io etc. #misc

Thomas Gruber
 

Hi,
That‘s a pretty old version of Safari. Mine is 13.1.1 now. Could that be the reason?
Kind regards
Thomas

Am 31.05.2020 um 01:29 schrieb J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...>:

This is my safari: Version 11.1.2 (11605.3.8.1)
Should I worry? It has a little lock symbol and then it says:
This Connection is Not Private. This website may be impersonating "groups.io" to steal your personal or financial information. You should go back to the previous page.

Then you can click on "Go Back" or "Show Details." When I click on Show Details, it says

Safari warns you when a website has an expired certificate. This website's certificate expired 1 day ago. This may happen if the website is misconfigured, an attacker has compromised your connection, or your system clock is incorrect. Your system clock is set to Saturday, May 30, 2020. If this is not right, fixing the clock may address this warning.
To learn more, you can view the certificate. If you understand the risks involved, you can visit this website.
Oddly, I was unable to copy the text to paste it here. I had to type it in verbatim. I didn't click on either link above.
Should I worry???
Thanks.

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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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moderated Re: #suggestion Need Ability to Post or Reply to Group as Owner #suggestion

Chris Jones
 

On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 04:31 PM, Jeremy H wrote:
It should be possible (actually, I would say it is necessary to be able) to post a message - either as a New Topic or Reply - as and from the Group Owner
I asked for this over two years ago; see #16576. I hope that the idea gets to the top of pile at some point.

Chris


moderated Re: #suggestion Need Ability to Post or Reply to Group as Owner #suggestion

Andy Wedge
 

On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 04:47 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
but in order to use it to post I have to log out of my regular account, log into the other one, post from it, log out again, and log back into my regular account.
I use Firefox with the Multi-Account Containers add-on. I can open a different browser tab associated with a different container and have different accounts logged in at the same time. Switching accounts is therefore just a case of switching to a different browser tab. There are probably other add-ons in different browsers that do something similar but this one works for me.

Andy


moderated Re: safari warns groups.io certificate expired, site "may be impersonating" groups.io etc. #misc

Dave Wade
 

Anyone who gets this error should be worried because it means whilst they haven’t been hacked, they are missing root or trusted certificate updates.

Whilst this means they may reject valid certificates, as is happening in this case, it could mean the accept revoked certificates as valid…

 

Dave

 

From: main@beta.groups.io <main@beta.groups.io> On Behalf Of J_Catlady
Sent: 31 May 2020 00:46
To: main@beta.groups.io
Subject: Re: [beta] safari warns groups.io certificate expired, site "may be impersonating" groups.io etc. #misc

 

Thanks, Duane. At least I'm not alone, so am less worried that I've been hacked or something.

 

On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 4:33 PM Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:

On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 05:01 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:

Is anyone else seeing this?

Someone reported it on GMF, but didn't specify the browser, https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/message/32051

Duane


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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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moderated Re: safari warns groups.io certificate expired, site "may be impersonating" groups.io etc. #misc

 

Hi All,

I will generate a new SSL certificate to address this issue, but it won't be until Monday or Tuesday. In the meantime, you can use Chrome or Firefox to access the site.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: safari warns groups.io certificate expired, site "may be impersonating" groups.io etc. #misc

 

Ok. I will answer messages like this offlist from hereon in. Thanks.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: safari warns groups.io certificate expired, site "may be impersonating" groups.io etc. #misc

Donald Hellen
 

J_Catlady . . .

On Sat, 30 May 2020 17:57:38 -0700, "J_Catlady"
<@J_Catlady> wrote:

Any advice? Feel free to message me offlist if this is not relevant to most people here.
Are you unable to upgrade the operating system?

If you can't, you're in the same boat as those still Running Windows
XP. You won't have the security updates to keep you safe.

Donald


----------------------------------------------------
Some ham radio groups you may be interested in:
https://groups.io/g/ICOM
https://groups.io/g/Ham-Antennas
https://groups.io/g/HamRadioHelp


moderated Re: safari warns groups.io certificate expired, site "may be impersonating" groups.io etc. #misc

 

Ok. From Mark's link, it seems like the problem may be my old computer etc:

"Devices that received security updates after mid 2015 should have the modern USERTrust RSA Certification Authority root certificate (valid until Jan 2038) in their operating system or browser truststores and should be largely unaffected.

Legacy devices that have not received updates to support newer roots will also likely to be missing other essential security updates and support for standards required by the modern Internet. We strongly encourage decommissioning these devices if their software cannot be upgraded. Non-upgraded, legacy devices should never be exposed to the Internet and special mitigations should be applied to isolate them from neighbor systems."

Any advice? Feel free to message me offlist if this is not relevant to most people here.


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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: safari warns groups.io certificate expired, site "may be impersonating" groups.io etc. #misc

Christopher Warrington
 

On 2020-05-30 at 3:01:17 PM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

I'm unable to duplicate this, and the .groups.io certificate
doesn't expire until September 9th. Is anyone else seeing this?
It looks like the Groups.io cert is cross-signed with the AddTrust
root that expired at 2020-05-30 10:48Z. [1]

Modern TLS clients don't have trouble with this cert because the
USERTRUST root hasn't expired yet.

Time for a newer cert without this root?


openssl s_client -connect groups.io:443
CONNECTED(00000004)
depth=2 C = US, ST = New Jersey, L = Jersey City, O = The USERTRUST Network, CN = USERTrust RSA Certification Authority
verify return:1
depth=1 C = FR, ST = Paris, L = Paris, O = Gandi, CN = Gandi Standard SSL CA 2
verify return:1
depth=0 OU = Domain Control Validated, OU = Gandi Standard Wildcard SSL, CN = *.groups.io
verify return:1
---
Certificate chain
0 s:OU = Domain Control Validated, OU = Gandi Standard Wildcard SSL, CN = *.groups.io
i:C = FR, ST = Paris, L = Paris, O = Gandi, CN = Gandi Standard SSL CA 2
1 s:C = FR, ST = Paris, L = Paris, O = Gandi, CN = Gandi Standard SSL CA 2
i:C = US, ST = New Jersey, L = Jersey City, O = The USERTRUST Network, CN = USERTrust RSA Certification Authority
2 s:C = US, ST = New Jersey, L = Jersey City, O = The USERTRUST Network, CN = USERTrust RSA Certification Authority
i:C = SE, O = AddTrust AB, OU = AddTrust External TTP Network, CN = AddTrust External CA Root
3 s:C = US, ST = New Jersey, L = Jersey City, O = The USERTRUST Network, CN = USERTrust RSA Certification Authority
i:C = SE, O = AddTrust AB, OU = AddTrust External TTP Network, CN = AddTrust External CA Root
---
<SNIP>

[1]: https://support.sectigo.com/articles/Knowledge/Sectigo-AddTrust-External-CA-Root-Expiring-May-30-2020

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Christopher Warrington <lists@...>


moderated Re: safari warns groups.io certificate expired, site "may be impersonating" groups.io etc. #misc

 

On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 4:52 PM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
Duane, could you get the info from the person on GMF about what they're running, etc?

I think this is maybe the issue:



I am away from the computer for the next few hours, so I can't research it any more. When I'm back I will see if there's anything on my end that we can do.


Mark
 


moderated Re: safari warns groups.io certificate expired, site "may be impersonating" groups.io etc. #misc

Joseph Hudson
 

No problems on my Mac running safari.

On May 30, 2020, at 5:01 PM, Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:

I'm unable to duplicate this, and the .groups.io certificate doesn't expire until September 9th. Is anyone else seeing this?

Thanks, Mark


moderated Re: safari warns groups.io certificate expired, site "may be impersonating" groups.io etc. #misc

 

Duane, could you get the info from the person on GMF about what they're running, etc?
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My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: safari warns groups.io certificate expired, site "may be impersonating" groups.io etc. #misc

 

On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 04:47 PM, Larry Finch wrote:
Your Safari is very old. The current version is 13.1.1, so try updating it.
It seems no updates are available. Maybe because my Mac is very old as well? (Macbook Pro, Retina, 13 inch, early 2015) Or because I'm still running El Capitan (10.18.6)? I was warned not to install Catalina. Maybe that was bad advice?
 
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: safari warns groups.io certificate expired, site "may be impersonating" groups.io etc. #misc

Larry Finch
 

Your Safari is very old. The current version is 13.1.1, so try updating it.

On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 7:29 PM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
This is my safari: Version 11.1.2 (11605.3.8.1)
Should I worry? It has a little lock symbol and then it says:
This Connection is Not Private. This website may be impersonating "groups.io" to steal your personal or financial information. You should go back to the previous page.

Then you can click on "Go Back" or "Show Details." When I click on Show Details, it says

Safari warns you when a website has an expired certificate. This website's certificate expired 1 day ago. This may happen if the website is misconfigured, an attacker has compromised your connection, or your system clock is incorrect. Your system clock is set to Saturday, May 30, 2020. If this is not right, fixing the clock may address this warning.
To learn more, you can view the certificate. If you understand the risks involved, you can visit this website.
Oddly, I was unable to copy the text to paste it here. I had to type it in verbatim. I didn't click on either link above.
Should I worry???
Thanks.


Larry

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moderated Re: safari warns groups.io certificate expired, site "may be impersonating" groups.io etc. #misc

 

Thanks, Duane. At least I'm not alone, so am less worried that I've been hacked or something.


On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 4:33 PM Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 05:01 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Is anyone else seeing this?
Someone reported it on GMF, but didn't specify the browser, https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/message/32051

Duane


--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: safari warns groups.io certificate expired, site "may be impersonating" groups.io etc. #misc

Duane
 

On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 05:01 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Is anyone else seeing this?
Someone reported it on GMF, but didn't specify the browser, https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/message/32051

Duane