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moderated No preview of hot-linked images when replying #bug

on4aa
 

From time to time, I feel the need to add a hot-linked image using the Markdown code ![image description](https://image.url) See below example.

The preview of such hot-linked images works fine when starting a new topic.

However, the preview of hot-linked images does not work when writing a reply. Try it!

a hot-linked image


moderated Re: Add a built-in PDF and Doc previewer for the Files section? #suggestion

Bart Fried
 

Hi Duane,

That is partially correct in that the file is not necessarily downloaded as a file. Certainly parts of it must be sent to the user's screen, else they'd never see it. So for example, here is a capture from Google Drive. It shows thumbnails which require no input whatsoever except to log in to Google Drive.



This alone would be a useful and significant improvement in the Files option. Now, if one right-clicks a file, the option to preview it using Google's own app pops up. Now I realize that the image is sent to your browser, but you don't need to do anything for that to happen except select Preview. I'm not a programmer, so I cannot speak to any perceived or real cyber threat, but clearly Google doesn't think it's much of a problem. And the file itself is not downloaded, although the option is there, too.


I'm not a huge Google fan, but this is a very handy feature. IE, not having to download and save files in order to see what's in them. Thanks for considering the suggestion.

Bart


moderated Re: Public archives #suggestion

 

Sorry, I'm done here. I've always loathed public groups. I would have joined groups.io much earlier, but it only allowed public groups at the time so we went with bigtent instead.

I've also never understood the rationale for having groups public so people can read without having to join. Joining is not exactly hard, and you don't have to post. Basically all members' messages are visible for the benefit of those non-members who cannot be bothered to join.

Thanks for the help, and bye.

Helen


moderated Re: Public archives #suggestion

 

Oh, also your suggestion about new member notifications was golden. ūüėä


On May 28, 2020, at 10:16 AM, J_Catlady via groups.io <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

ÔĽŅIt's a given that it has not changed from private to public. That's a one-way street and goes only in the other direction. I concur with Mark about your excellent suggestions, in particular the one about moderating the first message of every topic, which I have made my group setting. I always use alias email addresses for any forums, with the two exceptions being groups for the neighborhood I live in.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Public archives #suggestion

 

It's a given that it has not changed from private to public. That's a one-way street and goes only in the other direction. I concur with Mark about your excellent suggestions, in particular the one about moderating the first message of every topic, which I have made my group setting. I always use alias email addresses for any forums, with the two exceptions being groups for the neighborhood I live in.
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Markdown headings not rendering in email clients. #bug

 

Screen reader user here. Running Windows 10, 1909. In clients like Mozilla Thunderbird, headings are not rendering when I type in markdown in the web composer.

For example,

This heading,

does not show up as a heading at all when I am reading the message in TB. I haven't tried this on Outlook yet, but I'd be curious if this is a bug that's happening elsewhere, client wise.


moderated Re: Public archives #suggestion

 

I'm also happy this group has public archives, as I can give it a quick check for new messages at times when I don't want to log on.

If it helps, the public can't see much about you from the archives if you don't write it out fully in a message. Someone subscribed by mail could see your email address, but someone looking at the archives can see at most "Tanya's Feline CKD <helen@...>".

JohnF


moderated Re: Public archives #suggestion

 

Hi Helen,

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 1:41 PM Tanya's Feline CKD <helen@...> wrote:
Only just noticed this group has public archives. Not sure if this changed, because I never knowingly post in groups with public archives. In fact, I don't usually even join them.


It's always had a public archive, and that won't change. I have very much appreciated your feedback and suggestions over the years and hope you'll stay.


Mark


moderated Re: Public archives #suggestion

Duane
 

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 03:41 PM, Tanya's Feline CKD wrote:
Not sure if this changed
Nope, it's been that way since day 1.  It's so folks can find answers to questions without needing to join a group, same as Group_Help and GMF.

Duane


moderated Public archives #suggestion

 

Only just noticed this group has public archives. Not sure if this changed, because I never knowingly post in groups with public archives. In fact, I don't usually even join them.

I see no reason why a group to help people using a particular listserv should be set up so the whole world can see posts sent to it, and suggest that it changes. If it doesn't, I will not post here again (but am thankful I used my website e-mail address and not my private one).


moderated Re: Messages contain CC:group even with ReplyTo=sender and "Remove other options" #bug

Duane
 

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 12:50 AM, Jim Avera wrote:
the MUAs still present ReplyAll buttons
I don't believe there's anything that causes that button to be available, it's just there.  On my Thunderbird, it's always there, even if there's only one address to reply to.

Duane


moderated Re: Messages contain CC:group even with ReplyTo=sender and "Remove other options" #bug

Jim Avera
 

Thanks Mark.   It appears that something else is still defeating Remove other Options, as the MUAs still present ReplyAll buttons which include the list-post address.

The To: header points to the list-post address, not to the recipient (i.e. subscriber).  I suspect this is making MUAs think a ReplyAll options is needed which includes that address (since To: is not the same as the current user). 


moderated Re: Add a built-in PDF and Doc previewer for the Files section? #suggestion

dave w
 

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 05:38 AM, Duane wrote:
That's a common misconception.  In order to be viewed on your screen, the file is downloaded, at least part of it. 
+1.
Of course 'most' ordinary users don't understand the technical aspect of the way the web (WWW) works anyway, so how things are 'magically' and invisibly downloaded compared to the act of physically  downloading themselves. That said- I've not met a Mac browser that doesn't display proper pdfs on screen any time.
I do get ones that are either not properly created (encoded with correct metadata OR some other technical issue) that fail. I'm always suspicious of those being actual carriers of harm.
And I'm a voracious history researcher so do like my own copies to read later!

And citing what is 'common' because some company chose to target such features doesn't make it universal, or easy to achieve. Personally I'd be cautious with instantly playable doc/x files as much as they can contain/ control malware more commonly used to infiltrate machines.
FWIW, regards
davew


moderated Re: can't reply to topic via web #bug

 

Yeah, right, REALLY fixed this time!¬†ūüėä
Ok, thanks!

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 12:23 PM Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
Hi,

It should really be fixed now. Sorry for the bother.

Thanks,
Mark


--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: can't reply to topic via web #bug

Duane
 

Seems to be working, at least for the moment, with FF.

Thanks,
Duane


moderated Re: can't reply to topic via web #bug

 

Hi,

It should really be fixed now. Sorry for the bother.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Add a built-in PDF and Doc previewer for the Files section? #suggestion

Duane
 

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 11:24 AM, Bart Fried wrote:
It would be very useful to be able to preview these files prior to downloading them.
That's a common misconception.  In order to be viewed on your screen, the file is downloaded, at least part of it.  All modern browsers that I'm aware of have a way to view PDF files.  It's much more complicated for DOC files because there are so many possible formats and versions behind the scenes.  (With a good title and a proper description, I never need to preview to know what's in a file before downloading.)

Duane


moderated Re: can't reply to topic via web #bug

 

This reply is also in Firefox, as was my last one. It only happens sporadically. Plus, Mark may already have rolled things back at this point.
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: can't reply to topic via web #bug

Andy Wedge
 

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 06:20 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Ok, well, that's frustrating. I'm rolling this back until I can figure something else out.
 
I wasn't aware of an issue and this reply has been in Firefox without a problem.

Andy


moderated Re: can't reply to topic via web #bug

 

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 10:16 AM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
Not fixed for me. Same problem just now trying to reply to this.

Ok, well, that's frustrating. I'm rolling this back until I can figure something else out.

Thanks,
Mark