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moderated Site updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site this week:

  • NEW: Member search now also searches moderator notes.
  • BUGFIX: In some cases when we do a reverse DNS lookup on the IP address of a server sending us email, the Go DNS library would return a server misbehaving error, which we treated the same as not having a reverse DNS record, causing us to reject the incoming message. In those cases, we now repeat the lookup using an alternate DNS library. Specifically, China Mobile email servers seem to suffer from this.
  • BUGFIX: For some queries, wiki search would return a blank second page.
  • BUGFIX: For search queries with URL encoded characters, we would not properly decode them correctly on the subsequent search pages.
  • API: Misc improvements to the documentation.
  • API: Added "bad_request": "no space" errors to /addphotos, /updatephoto and /addfiles endpoints.
  • CHANGE: Moderators now cannot change the role of Owners.
  • CHANGE: Moderators now cannot change the subscription options of Owners.
  • API: Added support for extended=true to the drafts API endpoints.
  • API: /updatemember can now return: "bad_request": "moderators cannot change role of owners" is returned if a non-owner attempts to change the mod_status field of an owner.
  • API: /updatemember can now return: "bad_request": "moderators cannot make members owners" is returned if a non-owner attempts to make a member an owner.
  • API: /updatemember can now return: "bad_request": "moderators cannot change owner subscription settings" is returned if a non-owner attempts to change an owner's subscription settings.

Have a good weekend everyone.

Mark

moderated Add Comments to Photos of Other Members #suggestion

JenniferEverSews
 

On my doll & sewing groups the most requested change from members during the past few year is being able to add Comments to other members' posted photos. 

When introduced by y***o, how quickly became a boon to those groups.  It was easier for busier members to keep up with the number of emails.  It concentrated the message posts down to the most important ones by nearly eliminating those that said 'your photo is nice' & the obligatory 'thanks' replies. 

Also turned out to be good for future research projects by keeping others' notes available with the picture long after the posting date.  No need to hunt for message posts.

I respectfully thank you for the ability to make the suggestion & your consideration.
Jennifer 

moderated Re: Deleting photos #suggestion

JenniferEverSews
 

Yes, this feature would be welcome & helpful for my groups as well. 
Thank you Denise for posting it.  Thank you to Mark for considering the possibility.
Jennifer 
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On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 05:16 PM, DeniseD wrote:
I need to delete older photos on a regular basis in my Group. 
Now when I delete one photo from say page 9 it reverts back to Page 1 which is most annoying.
Also being able to delete a batch of say 10 photos at a time would be most helpful.

moderated Re: Remove the ID column in databases #suggestion

Ginny T.
 

In a perfect world, I would love to have it there but able to be hidden - and that toggle be "sticky", so that the moderator (or table owner) could toggle it as needed, but the last choice would hold until it was changed again.

Ginny
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TemariKai.com

moderated Re: Deleting photos #suggestion

DeniseD
 

Thanks Bruce for the support.  I am sure there are a lot of members who would appreciate a much more easier way of dealing with this issue.


On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 10:04 AM Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:
On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 05:16 PM, DeniseD wrote:
I need to delete older photos on a regular basis in my Group. 
Now when I delete one photo from say page 9 it reverts back to Page 1 which is most annoying.
I agree that this behavior is annoying, and retaining the existing query string upon page refresh doesn't seem like it would be too difficult to implement.

Also being able to delete a batch of say 10 photos at a time would be most helpful.
This might take a little more work. :-)

Shal once made a suggestion to the effect that there be a page that displays all group photos in table format and have them sortable by their metadata entries (owner/uploaded/taken/containing folder/etc), along with a row of checkboxes on the left and an Actions menu of some kind so bulk actions could easily be performed. I'm struggling to find that post now but I really thought it was a good idea at the time. 

Bruce

moderated Re: Emergency downtime #downtime

 

.... and we're back. To be clear, I'm not aware of any actual corruption in the database, but we had a corruption warning on a query, and the recommendation was to restart the database.

Thanks,
Mark

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 2:58 PM Mark Fletcher via Groups.Io <markf=corp.groups.io@groups.io> wrote:

Hi All,

I need to restart the database because of a potential corruption issue, and it cannot wait. I will take the site down in 5 minutes. It should only be down for one minute.

Thanks, Mark

moderated Re: Deleting photos #suggestion

Bruce Bowman
 

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 05:16 PM, DeniseD wrote:
I need to delete older photos on a regular basis in my Group. 
Now when I delete one photo from say page 9 it reverts back to Page 1 which is most annoying.
I agree that this behavior is annoying, and retaining the existing query string upon page refresh doesn't seem like it would be too difficult to implement.

Also being able to delete a batch of say 10 photos at a time would be most helpful.
This might take a little more work. :-)

Shal once made a suggestion to the effect that there be a page that displays all group photos in table format and have them sortable by their metadata entries (owner/uploaded/taken/containing folder/etc), along with a row of checkboxes on the left and an Actions menu of some kind so bulk actions could easily be performed. I'm struggling to find that post now but I really thought it was a good idea at the time. 

Bruce

moderated Emergency downtime #downtime

 

Hi All,

I need to restart the database because of a potential corruption issue, and it cannot wait. I will take the site down in 5 minutes. It should only be down for one minute.

Thanks, Mark

moderated Re: Activity Log summary for owner/mods #suggestion

Bruce Bowman
 

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 05:28 PM, Duane wrote:
How about another option under Notifications for owner/mods that would send a summary of the previous 24 hours (since last summary) of the Activity Log?
I like this idea, if made optional...perhaps as a new checkbox in the existing Notifications section of a Mod/Owner subscription.

It seems like an expedient way to achieve most of the goals of the long-awaited "notifications overhaul" without attempting to create a separate notification for each and every group activity (which could quickly get out of hand).

Bruce

moderated Activity Log summary for owner/mods #suggestion

Duane
 

On GMF we've noticed recently that there have been a fair number of questions where the answer could be found by checking the Activity Log for the group.  How about another option under Notifications for owner/mods that would send a summary of the previous 24 hours (since last summary) of the Activity Log?  It wouldn't need to contain details, just a summary of what's happened, but might be a clue to check the details of the log.  It would only need to have a line for any actions that occurred, not for all possibilities (though that's a remote possibility.)  An example:

Activity Log summary for xyz group:

27 members "sent message"
12 messages were "approved"
2 messages were "rejected"
1 person "changed their display name"
1 person "left"
2 people "joined"
1 "added wiki page"
6 "updated wiki page"
3 people "added photo"
and so on.

Thanks,
Duane

moderated Re: Search Results Show Multiple Pages But 2nd Page is Empty #bug #fixed

 

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 9:28 AM Bill Hazel <william.j.hazel@...> wrote:
Situation:
I was looking for information on GMF's wiki for information on how to make a group's home page look like this group's, with "Active Topics", "New Sub-Groups", "Top Has Tags"
A search for "home +page" yielded 29 results
When I click on the link to page 2 or the next page arrow, I get a blank page.

This should be fixed now.

Thanks,
Mark 

moderated Deleting photos #suggestion

DeniseD
 

I need to delete older photos on a regular basis in my Group. 
Now when I delete one photo from say page 9 it reverts back to Page 1 which is most annoying.
Also being able to delete a batch of say 10 photos at a time would be most helpful.
It would make our lives so much easier.

moderated Search Results Show Multiple Pages But 2nd Page is Empty #bug #fixed

Bill Hazel
 

Situation:
I was looking for information on GMF's wiki for information on how to make a group's home page look like this group's, with "Active Topics", "New Sub-Groups", "Top Has Tags"
A search for "home +page" yielded 29 results
When I click on the link to page 2 or the next page arrow, I get a blank page.

I have had this happen to me before, at least a couple times.
I did not document if it only happens when there are only 2 pages of results but if memory serves (and I'd be skeptical of my memory), I don't recall it happening when there was more than 2 pages of results.

BTW - If someone with access to the code for this group's home page could reply to me privately with a text file of it, or send me a link to the wikipage with the information on how to do it,  I'd appreciate it.

Bill

moderated Re: "Pending Message" notification that could be clicked on to delete it. #suggestion

 

The user has no access to their pending message if sent via web. That’s my point. 


On Feb 21, 2020, at 8:33 AM, Chris Jones via Groups.Io <chrisjones12@...> wrote:

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 04:10 PM, Bill Hazel wrote:
"Which group did I post that to?"
"Did I post to the right one?"
"Did I post?
are all questions i have asked myself.
The answers are easy enough to find by looking at the web UI after a suitable delay where moderation is in force*. And if you posted by email then look in your Sent Items folder. :)

The last one actually comes up more often than you might think because not all Moderators are as Johnny-on-the-spot as the Moderators of this group.
In the group only the first post in any topic is moderated anyway, unless something has changed.

* Living on a different continent one gets used to moderation delays. Patience is (I am told) a virtue.

Chris

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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu

moderated Re: "Pending Message" notification that could be clicked on to delete it. #suggestion

Chris Jones
 

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 04:10 PM, Bill Hazel wrote:
"Which group did I post that to?"
"Did I post to the right one?"
"Did I post?
are all questions i have asked myself.
The answers are easy enough to find by looking at the web UI after a suitable delay where moderation is in force*. And if you posted by email then look in your Sent Items folder. :)

The last one actually comes up more often than you might think because not all Moderators are as Johnny-on-the-spot as the Moderators of this group.
In the group only the first post in any topic is moderated anyway, unless something has changed.

* Living on a different continent one gets used to moderation delays. Patience is (I am told) a virtue.

Chris

moderated Re: "Pending Message" notification that could be clicked on to delete it. #suggestion

 

The banner is helpful but I think the sender should really get a copy of, or access to viewing, their sent message.


On Feb 21, 2020, at 8:26 AM, J_Catlady via Groups.Io <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

Add to that: did my post reach the system? It’s an acknowledgment of receipt, and I think it is sorely lacking.


On Feb 21, 2020, at 8:23 AM, J_Catlady via Groups.Io <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

Exactly. Those are all great reasons!


On Feb 21, 2020, at 8:10 AM, Bill Hazel <william.j.hazel@...> wrote:

If I might add another reason to have a "Pending Message" notification:
I am currently a member of 6 groups, 3 that fall into the general subset that this one does.
Now, granted, most people's memory is probably much better than mine, but:
"Which group did I post that to?"
"Did I post to the right one?"
"Did I post?
are all questions i have asked myself.
The last one actually comes up more often than you might think because not all Moderators are as Johnny-on-the-spot as the Moderators of this group.

Bill

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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu

moderated Re: Infinite Scroll on Databases

 

On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 01:52 AM, Duane wrote:
On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 06:09 PM, Maria McGrath wrote:
Is there any plan to have infinite scroll in databases ?  At the moment it only shows 20 rows at a time?
Actually, you can set your Items Per Page in your account to anything other than infinite scroll (20, 50, 100) and it shows that number.  I'm not sure why I.S. has never worked in databases.

I know this was brought up here in January, but I just noticed that when searching for something in the files of our group, this applies to files as well: Infinite scroll is not possible. If you choose "infinite scroll" you are set back to 20. We have many folders with some hundred files and databases and it´s quite tedious to have a choice up to 100 but not to be able to scroll infinitely.

If this was brought up in beta I suppose it got lost again like so many proposals.
Victoria

moderated Re: Remove the ID column in databases #suggestion

Michelle Lucas
 

For our dog rescue group, we find the ID number very useful in that it provides integrity for our information, and it gives us an automatic count of the number of dogs that we rescue each year. I would really prefer giving people the option of hiding the ID column and also having the ability to choose a default  'sort-by' column.
Thank you!
Michelle

moderated Re: "Pending Message" notification that could be clicked on to delete it. #suggestion

 

Add to that: did my post reach the system? It’s an acknowledgment of receipt, and I think it is sorely lacking.


On Feb 21, 2020, at 8:23 AM, J_Catlady via Groups.Io <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

Exactly. Those are all great reasons!


On Feb 21, 2020, at 8:10 AM, Bill Hazel <william.j.hazel@...> wrote:

If I might add another reason to have a "Pending Message" notification:
I am currently a member of 6 groups, 3 that fall into the general subset that this one does.
Now, granted, most people's memory is probably much better than mine, but:
"Which group did I post that to?"
"Did I post to the right one?"
"Did I post?
are all questions i have asked myself.
The last one actually comes up more often than you might think because not all Moderators are as Johnny-on-the-spot as the Moderators of this group.

Bill

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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu

moderated Re: "Pending Message" notification that could be clicked on to delete it. #suggestion

 

Exactly. Those are all great reasons!


On Feb 21, 2020, at 8:10 AM, Bill Hazel <william.j.hazel@...> wrote:

If I might add another reason to have a "Pending Message" notification:
I am currently a member of 6 groups, 3 that fall into the general subset that this one does.
Now, granted, most people's memory is probably much better than mine, but:
"Which group did I post that to?"
"Did I post to the right one?"
"Did I post?
are all questions i have asked myself.
The last one actually comes up more often than you might think because not all Moderators are as Johnny-on-the-spot as the Moderators of this group.

Bill

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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu