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moderated Re: "Pending Message" notification that could be clicked on to delete it. #suggestion

 

On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 12:34 PM, Duane wrote:
If the message hasn't been approved, the sender could go online and delete it.
How would they do that? If they sent it via email, there's no notification that their message will post when approved, no banner,  no nothing.
 
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moderated Re: "Pending Message" notification that could be clicked on to delete it. #suggestion

Duane
 

On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 02:16 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
Adding the suggested feature decreases consistency (you can’t take back a sent email)
I don't think it necessarily would.  If the message hasn't been approved, the sender could go online and delete it.  Maybe that would be a limitation.

Duane


moderated Re: "Pending Message" notification that could be clicked on to delete it. #suggestion

 

I’m all for the most consistency possible between posting via email vs posting via the web. Adding the suggested feature decreases consistency (you can’t take back a sent email) whereas my suggestion adds consistency (you’d have a record of what yoh sent whether you posted via email or via the web, as opposed to currently, where you have it only if post via email). 

The feature suggested here also raises a complication  of the person trying to delete the message before knowing whether a mod has already acted on it some way, if they haven’t kept up either on email or the web. This would probably take some thinking through and there may or may not be issues.


On Feb 19, 2020, at 12:02 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:

On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 01:11 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
I would disagree with that feature and think it would be superfluous.
How so?  Wouldn't it be better to allow the sender to remove the message from the queue than to add clutter by needing to post a "my mistake" followup?  In some cases though, I do like having something like that posted for all to see when it might make something more clear to another user later.

Duane

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moderated Re: "Pending Message" notification that could be clicked on to delete it. #suggestion

Duane
 

On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 01:11 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
I would disagree with that feature and think it would be superfluous.
How so?  Wouldn't it be better to allow the sender to remove the message from the queue than to add clutter by needing to post a "my mistake" followup?  In some cases though, I do like having something like that posted for all to see when it might make something more clear to another user later.

Duane


moderated Re: "Pending Message" notification that could be clicked on to delete it. #suggestion

 

I'm not sure I understand the middle part of this message, but I do get that the suggestion is for a way to delete a submitted pending message. I would disagree with that feature and think it would be superfluous.

What I do think would be very useful (and have suggested in the past) would be to send the member a record of the submitted message. When you post via email, you have a record of what you sent. But when you post via the web and the message is moderated, you have no record of it unless you explicitly make a copy for yourself. 
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moderated "Pending Message" notification that could be clicked on to delete it. #suggestion

Bill Hazel
 

Add a way to cancel a message before it gets approved.

Once i hit "Send" or "Reply to Group" I get the green banner with "Your message will be sent when it's approved by the moderators." but nothing about canceling the message. 

Also, once I leave the message page there is no indication that the message is in limbo.

I mentioned in a reply to the question "Can moderators reduce joined their own moderator settings?", that I had to wait for the message to go through the Moderators before I could fess up to figuring it out on my own.

It would be nice if there was a "Pending Message" notification that could be clicked on to delete it.

I kind of hope I'm not the only person who clicks either "Send" or "Reply to Group" then wishes I hadn't.

Bill


moderated Re: Subgroup default visibility settings #suggestion

Sarah Tappon
 

Another suggestion on a similar theme: it would be awesome if when creating a subgroup, its settings defaulted to matching the parent group's unless manually changed.

For example, in my parent group, I've disabled a bunch of features that we don't use (chat, database, etc). When setting up sub-groups, it's time-consuming to copy over all those settings manually.


moderated Better error when renaming a group #suggestion #done

Duane
 

We're trying to figure out why a group can't be renamed.  While testing, I noticed that if I tried to rename to an existing name, it says "Cannot contain spaces, pluses, periods, or underscores."  If I try to create a group with an existing name, it says "That address has already been taken.", much more useful.

Thanks,
Duane


moderated Subgroup default visibility settings #suggestion

Sarah Tappon
 

I'm a member of a top-level group that is private. When members create sub-groups, the default visibility setting for the sub-group is "Subgroup listed in parent group, messages publicly viewable". As a result, I've seen multiple people make their new sub-groups public by mistake.

It would be great if sub-groups inherited the parent group's visibility settings by default, so that if the parent group is private, the default would instead be "Subgroup listed in parent group, messages viewable by parent group members." I imagine that most private groups do not want their sub-groups to be public so this would be a more intuitive default.


moderated Re: Add Charter Rules to Wiki #meta

 

Hi All,

I've set the group guidelines to be sent to all new members. I've also set the topic where I announced the new charter to be sticky.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: Add Charter Rules to Wiki #meta

JediPirx
 

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 05:43 PM, J_Catlady wrote :

I agree also. But it's already in the Guidelines page.
Oops for me too. I did not see the Guidelines entry in the
left-hand side menu.

My reason for starting the topic was that I had some confusion
(senior moment ?) about the Charter and I was looking for the
summary in the Wiki which I could not find because it was not
there.


Fri, 14 Feb 2020 13:47:36, J_Catlady wrote :

Unfortunately I have to say "I disagree" with the vast majority
(or at least a whole lot) of this. I don't know where it's coming
from.
In reviewing the postings on the Charter, I compiled ad verbatim,
what I felt were key points from the various emails to assist in
documenting the Charter. It was a rough draft.

In the postings, there were comments on etiquette and "proposal vs
suggestion" which did not seem to have a conclusion.

Based on the responses, etiquette is policed as required, and
proposals/ideas/topic could/should be discussed in GMF before
a suggestion is submitted on [beta].


Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 03:39 PM, Duane wrote:

I do agree that there should be an easy place for others,
especially newcomers, to find the mandate(s) for the group.
A sticky, either post or wiki page, would seem to be the most
noticeable.
I agree :-)


I appreciate everyone's response. I am amenable to closing this
topic.

Stan/jp


moderated Re: "Publicly Listed Groups" page displays groups, then says they don't exist #bug #fixed

 

Hi All,

This should be fixed now.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Re: "Publicly Listed Groups" page displays groups, then says they don't exist #bug #fixed

 

Mark,

Here's another one besides the two I sent you privately:
Roundup / DID YOU SPRAY ROUNDUP BEFORE BEING DIAGNOSED WITH NON-HODGKIN'S LYMPHOMA OR LEUKEMIA? IF SO, YOU ARE ENTITLED TO SIGNIFICANT COMPENSATION - GLOBAL SETTLEMENT SOON! Roundup is a carcinogen which has been proven to cause cancer so you deserve to be compensated if you were affected by this!
Created: 10/21/19
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moderated Re: "Publicly Listed Groups" page displays groups, then says they don't exist #bug #fixed

 

Oops, meant to send that to Mark offlist. People are PM'ing me up the wazoo (well, two people;) and saying they also saw the bug. 
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moderated Re: "Publicly Listed Groups" page displays groups, then says they don't exist #bug #fixed

 

Looks like yet another person PM'd me:
'I have also seen this, and have a horrible feeling it’s been around for a while"
Not sure why all of these people are not replying onlist. But the bug def exists.


On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 12:22 PM Mark Fletcher <markf@corp.groups.io> wrote:
On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 11:20 AM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
It seems the "Publicly Listed Groups" page is either not being updated or is incorrect to start with. It is showing some groups that, when clicked on, return "that group does not exist."


That shouldn't be. Examples?

Thanks,
Mark 


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moderated Re: "Publicly Listed Groups" page displays groups, then says they don't exist #bug #fixed

 

On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 11:20 AM J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:
It seems the "Publicly Listed Groups" page is either not being updated or is incorrect to start with. It is showing some groups that, when clicked on, return "that group does not exist."


That shouldn't be. Examples?

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated "Publicly Listed Groups" page displays groups, then says they don't exist #bug #fixed

 

It seems the "Publicly Listed Groups" page is either not being updated or is incorrect to start with. It is showing some groups that, when clicked on, return "that group does not exist."
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: log activity when someone responds to a poll #suggestion

Bill Hazel
 

Getting back to the original question: Could we be notified if someone responded to a poll?
I don't care if all it says that someone responded. I would just like to know someone responded to a poll. I can look at the poll to see the information I'm looking for.


moderated Photo ownership when member changes email address #bug

Duane
 

I was contacted by a member when he couldn't get into a personal album he had created.  I dug around a bit and found that he had changed his email address in September.  (He retained the Display Name he had chosen about a year before that.)  I had to manually assign ownership of the album and each photo, so all is well for now.

Thanks,
Duane


moderated Discussions about GMF are off-topic #admin

 

Once again, I remind you that discussions about GMF and other groups are off-topic for beta. 
 
Mark

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