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moderated Re: RFE: Add "claimed" count next to pending count #suggestion

Duane
 

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 06:39 AM, Samuel Murray wrote:
So, I suggest that when a pending action has been claimed but not resolved yet, then it should show an extra count that shows the number of claimed-but-not-resolved pending actions.

See screenshot attache.

I don't really care whether the "pending" count includes or excludes the "claimed" count.
I've been thinking about this a bit, and it would truly be useful sometimes.  If the "claimed" were included in the "pending", then it would be easy to tell if you need to do anything - if they're equal, you're caught up.  In addition, since there could never be a claimed without a pending, there could sometimes be one number and sometimes two, so another indicator of the overall status.

Duane


moderated Re: Email queue corruption #outage

Dave Sergeant
 

Not sure if I lost any mails but a couple we posted last night (around
2000z UK) took around 20 minutes before they were delivered.

Dave
On 24 Jan 2020 at 13:14, Mark Fletcher wrote:

During one of the normal site upgrades today (something I generally do
5-20 times a day), the database storing emails to be sent out became
corrupted. This led to the loss of some emails that had not yet been
successfully delivered. I don't know how many messages were lost; most,
if not all of them, we had already attempted to send out at least once.

http://davesergeant.com


moderated Site updates #changelog

 

Changes to the site this week:

  • INTERNAL: Cleaned up instances of the same hashtag appearing twice in the topic.
  • BUGFIX: If sending to an announcement subgroup where you are not a moderator but you are a moderator of the parent group, the message would bounce.
  • BUGFIX: When banning an existing member by entering their email address manually, we did not save their moderator notes, owner messages, etc. Now, it does the same thing as banning a member using the Actions dropdown when viewing the member list.
  • NEW: Added another Yahoo hard bounce error code.
  • INTERNAL: Rearchitected how we paginate through messages, to be more efficient with the database.
  • SYSADMIN: Removed the extra block storage needed during the Yahoo Groups migration.
  • MISC: Hired a technical writer to draft a Groups.io manual.
  • CHANGE: Removed Canny.io integration.
  • BUGFIX: The messages in the mbox file when exporting a group were not in ascending order, as required.
  • CHANGE: Optimized drafts database queries.
  • MISC: Hired a consulting firm to help with search issues, including member directory search and upgrading our existing cluster.
  • CHANGE: Reorganized the Beta group hashtag list. Established a new group charter.
  • NEW: In the Hashtags page, added an icon to indicate mods only hashtags.
  • INTERNAL: Added some database indices to speed up topic deletion.
  • INTERNAL: Optimized several search queries.

Have a good weekend everyone.

Mark


moderated Member list Search button not respecting blank search box, resulting in infinite display loop #bug

Christos G. Psarras
 

If one is in the Admin Member list pages, one can enter some text to search the member list. It may or may not return results, either case.  If they are done searching and go and delete the search text and click on Search again (or press Enter), the deleted text reappears, the URL parameters do not change, the page refreshes, and stays the same.  No matter how many times one clears the text, either by backspace, Del, or mouse context menu. the same thing will keep happening ad infinitum.  In order to reset the page, one has to either manually clear the URL parameters and refresh, go-back a few times, or go to some other page and come back.

Cheers,
Christos


moderated Email queue corruption #outage

 

Hi All,

During one of the normal site upgrades today (something I generally do 5-20 times a day), the database storing emails to be sent out became corrupted. This led to the loss of some emails that had not yet been successfully delivered. I don't know how many messages were lost; most, if not all of them, we had already attempted to send out at least once.

I don't recall this ever happening before. That said, I'm looking into ways to mitigate this should it happen again.

Thanks,
Mark


moderated Problem with sorting in Emailed Photos folder #bug #fixed

Bruce Bowman
 

Mark -- If you sort the Emailed Photos folder by anything other than Posting Date, the thumbnails are sorted correctly but the underlying links are not. This leads to confusion when you subsequently click on a thumbnail and a different image loads.

The problem does not appear to affect other photo albums, just Emailed Photos.

Thanks,
Bruce


moderated Re: Enlarge the vertical size of the "Your Groups" pull-down menu #suggestion

Christos G. Psarras
 


>>> At that time it was a variable width (and when an idiot creates a group name 30 words long, so was the window... ;/ )  while the vertical height drop down dropped below the window pane entirely... which Mark changed to the current condition.  So using a laptop for two decades I'm restricted in height (as will be many others)...

>>>On my tablet, in landscape, it fills most of the screen, so I wouldn't want it any taller.  I believe the current ~15 lines is a compromise that accounts for most, if not all, possible devices.


I probably did not make it as clear as I should have.  First, I'm not asking for the width to change at all; and second, neither to ALWAYS be dynamically-changed up or down from what is now.

It can stay as it is now if the browser window height is smaller than the menu height (which it already does now if one resizes the browser to a small height smaller than the menu height) or if the available space/height left is under some set percentage.  In other words, behave the same as it is now, this would be the minimums, there would be no negative impact whatsoever to existing users, and the only time the menu height would change would be if the browser window height is so large in relation to the existing menu height (as when it happens now when using a PC with the typical larger screen/resolution of nowadays), in which case it would then dynamically enlarge the menu height to take up some certain percentage of the available real estate, I don't know, like 75% maybe.  For those who use smaller-height screens, nothing would really change (although they may get a few extra lines displayed possibly, depending), only those who are using larger screens would really get the taller menu benefit; and if they resize their browser window down, it would resize back down, and stop when it reaches the current minimums.

Cheers,
Christos



moderated Re: Enlarge the vertical size of the "Your Groups" pull-down menu #suggestion

 

On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 5:01 PM dave w <groupsmaster@...> wrote:

At that time it was a variable width (and when an idiot creates a group name 30 words long, so was the window... ;/ ) while the vertical height drop down dropped below the window pane entirely... which Mark changed to the current condition.


Please don't use a word like idiot in the future. It's not helpful.


Mark 


moderated Re: Banned not in Banned list #bug

 

I'm still trying to check on the date displayed in the Banned list. It's tricky because of all the various cases  - member, non-member, ban by entering email address, ban by selected action from dropdown. In the couple of cases I tried just now, it's correct. 
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moderated Re: Banned not in Banned list #bug

 

On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 10:44 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
Right now, when you enter an email address by hand to ban, we do not send out the Banned member notice. This is even the case when the person you are banning is a member of the group. I propose that, when you enter an email address by hand to ban, and that person is a member of the group, that the Banned member notice is sent out.
I agree that this would be correct (i.e., consistent/expected) behavior, if there's an active Banned notice, and if this applies only to members and not non-members, which is what you are saying here. So sounds good.

Now, banning by entering an email address behaves the same way as the other banning: we keep their member notes, messages to moderators, join date, etc. Previously we did not.
Great. Thanks. 
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My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Banned not in Banned list #bug

 

Hi All,

I just fixed an issue with banning by entering an email address (as opposed to selecting a member from the Members list and banning them using the Actions menu). Now, banning by entering an email address behaves the same way as the other banning: we keep their member notes, messages to moderators, join date, etc. Previously we did not.

I was unable to reproduce the issue of banning someone and them not appearing in the banned list. If that happens to you again, please contact me off-list with the following info: name of list, email address of person you tried to ban, and how you tried (entering their email address by hand, or by selecting them from the Members page).

Finally, I think a change should be made. Right now, when you enter an email address by hand to ban, we do not send out the Banned member notice. This is even the case when the person you are banning is a member of the group. I propose that, when you enter an email address by hand to ban, and that person is a member of the group, that the Banned member notice is sent out. This would mimic the behavior of banning someone by selecting them from the Members list.

Thanks, Mark


moderated Re: Banned not in Banned list #bug

 

On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 08:03 AM, Leeni wrote:
Another problem I just had
Yes, essentially the same problem. They won't show up, you ban them again, and then suddenly they show up, and with some inexplicable date.
 
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moderated Re: Banned not in Banned list #bug

Leeni
 

Another problem I just had was it took me 3 tries to get the member I was trying to ban to show up on the ban list.
 
 
 
 

-------Original Message-------
 
From: J_Catlady
Date: 1/24/2020 9:55:43 AM
Subject: Re: [beta] Banned not in Banned list #bug
 
That bug goes along with this thread and is not the only problem related to banning:
https://beta.groups.io/g/main/message/23899
"In addition, sometimes a banned member is described as "banned" in the Past Members list but does not even appear in the Banned list."
The date field in the banned list is also not the date they were banned, the Notes page is missing from the member record in the Banned list, and other problems.
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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moderated Re: Banned not in Banned list #bug

 

That bug goes along with this thread and is not the only problem related to banning:
https://beta.groups.io/g/main/message/23899
"In addition, sometimes a banned member is described as "banned" in the Past Members list but does not even appear in the Banned list."
The date field in the banned list is also not the date they were banned, the Notes page is missing from the member record in the Banned list, and other problems.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Banned not in Banned list #bug

Duane
 

I don't have the Past Members on my free group, but the ones I banned yesterday for the AOL weirdness are not showing in the banned list on one group (they are on another.)  The action does show in the Activity log.  I was double checking to make sure I hadn't banned a real member.

Duane


moderated Re: Enlarge the vertical size of the "Your Groups" pull-down menu #suggestion

Duane
 

On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 11:55 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
there is scrolling that much of it can be avoided if the menu's vertical size/height was bigger.
On my tablet, in landscape, it fills most of the screen, so I wouldn't want it any taller.  I believe the current ~15 lines is a compromise that accounts for most, if not all, possible devices.

Duane


moderated Re: Strange display issue with uploading CDR extension files into FILES #bug

Bruce Bowman
 

On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 09:47 PM, Christos G. Psarras wrote:
When trying to upload files into the FILES section, I'm not sure if the uploader code is not aware of this file extension so it doesn't know what mime/type/graphic icon to use, but for CDR (Corel Draw) files, it displays the actual filename as shown below.
There are multiple file types that do this. I'd prefer that the file uploader not attempt to render any thumbnail images, and simply list the files.

Bruce


moderated Strange AOL attack? #misc

Duane
 

There seem to be a lot of new and/or pending members with AOL addresses that follow a pattern, NameNamexxx, coming from someone in NJ at IP 104.xxx.xxx.xxx.  This seems to have started about the 17th.  They never answer Pending notices and never post.  The only thing I can think of is they may be trying to harvest addresses, but it seems like a lot of work for that.  Mark may want to take a look at his logs to see if he can figure out what it is.  (I've changed all my groups to Restricted for the time being, after banning 4 of those accounts.)

I'm only posting this here so that Mark will be aware of it.  The full discussion is at https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/70052673

Duane


moderated Strange display issue with uploading CDR extension files into FILES #bug

Christos G. Psarras
 

When trying to upload files into the FILES section, I'm not sure if the uploader code is not aware of this file extension so it doesn't know what mime/type/graphic icon to use, but for CDR (Corel Draw) files, it displays the actual filename as shown below.

Cheers,
Christos


moderated Re: Process to propose new features #meta

 

On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 01:55 PM, Bob Bellizzi wrote:
I want to climb on Catlady's bandwagon a bit further.
I don't know what you're talking about lol. I don't see anything in your message that agrees with what I've said previously. What I've said is that I am very leery of (and would personally avoid, if it happens) having all the suggestions I make go through a group of amateur volunteers for "vetting," as was suggested by soeone. But I have nothing against someone - volunteer or otherwise - maintaining a simple tracking system. 

As for apologies, I also apologize for saying that I don't want to pay to whitewash Mark's fence. That was inappropriate and I've already told him so in an offlist message. I just don't know what we're talking about here any more.
 
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Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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