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After accepting invite to subgroup, Groups.io tells user to use plus-style address to post
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Hello
In a test, a user who accepted an invitation to a subgroup is told to use the plus-style address for posting to the subgroup (see image attached). This is not ideal. I suspect the template for that page just needs to be updated. Samuel [By the way, posting to the plus-style address works fine, although when the reply is received again, it comes from the subdomain-style address, which would mean that users would then end up with two different addresses in their e-mail program's address book.]
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Re: Feature requests/Canny after two weeks
KWKloeber
>>>On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 04:37 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
useful only if bugs are easily identifiable there by subject lines, and there again you fall prey to possible widespread misuse in not identifying bugs properly, etc.<<<Ok I can buy into the benefit of a bug-specific forum. (BUT good luck with the above caveat.) Arrrgh.
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Re: Feature requests/Canny after two weeks
KWKloeber
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potential-bug@“ could differentiate general support vs bug reporting.I don't think a hashtag like that will be effective.<<< In response to Sandi’s comment about both bugs and support questions addressed to <support@>, <potential-bug@> (or whatever@) would be an address specifically for bugs. i.e., @ being common for an email address, not for a (#) hashtag. Focus LOL.
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Re: Feature requests/Canny after two weeks
On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 12:56 PM, Ken Kloeber wrote:
potential-bug@“ could differentiate general support vs bug reporting.I don't think a hashtag like that will be effective. You'll get a plethora of people using it identically to #bug, either sometimes or all the time, either because most bugs *are* still potential until they're confirmed (either by the reporting user or others), and/or because they don't know the difference between "general support" and "bug reporting," etc. etc. etc. It will be a complete mish-mosh. a forum to browse bugs MIGHT be helpful, but (hopefully) anything posted/searched/browsed for on there would be moot (the bug was subsequently corrected/addressed so the bug will no longer existI think a bugs forum might be very helpful so that you could check whether a bug you notice has already been reported and not repeat it (and/or you could add details to the thread when you find a bug you've also experienced; but I think it would be useful only if bugs are easily identifiable there by subject lines, and there again you fall prey to possible widespread misuse in not identifying bugs properly, etc. I don't think anything in a bugs forum would be "moot." First, bugs take awhile to get fixed around here; second, a fixed bug should not be removed from the system, but marked "fixed", so that people still experiencing it can report that it's not really fixed. Regarding the prioritization of feature suggestions based on user payment rather than suggestion quality, we agree. -- J Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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Re: Feature requests/Canny after two weeks
KWKloeber
Ok, so for one, “potential-bug@“ could differentiate general support vs bug reporting. I do agree a forum to browse bugs MIGHT be helpful, but (hopefully) anything posted/searched/browsed for on there would be moot (the bug was subsequently corrected/addressed so the bug will no longer exist.)
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On another’s point of paid- vs freeloader-suggested features - >>>On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 10:22 AM, Sandi D wrote:
On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 01:14 AM, Ken Kloeber wrote:
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Re: Feature requests/Canny after two weeks
Chris Jones
On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 04:19 PM, J_Catlady wrote:
and allow only moderators to create hashtags.Have you been reading my mind? :) This will be in my proposal to Mark as it would result in a much smaller and tidier library of hashtags in beta. Chris
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Re: Feature requests/Canny after two weeks
On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 05:03 AM, Samuel Murray wrote:
I thought that hashtags only "work" if they are applied to the first post of a topic. Wouldn't this mean that you would have to turn beta into a moderated group, so that you can add hashtags before the messages go out?You could use the MF feature ("moderate the first message of every topic this member starts"), but you would have to apply it to every member, and that is practical only if you make MF a group option, which it currently is not (I've requested it on Canny). Another option would be to require that every topic include at least one hashtag (this is already a group option) and allow only moderators to create hashtags. -- J Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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Bugs sent to support not generating acknowledgements #Bug about bugs
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Mark, Happy New Year! About a week ago, (and also this morning), it happened again: I sent a bug report to support, did not receive an acknowledgement, and then (for the one a week ago) forwarded the whole thing to your groups.io email address with an explanatory note because I wasn't sure it got through to support. I don't know if you received that, but I heard nothing back and assumed that it is because you are on vacation, which is totally cool but I just want you to know that this is happening. It happened again this morning (the bug is that the Past Members page incorrectly shows some Rejected members - logged correctly in their History - as having been Removed). Since I'm receiving crickets from all of this, I decided to post about it on beta so that you will at least be aware of the problem. I will not post or email about it again until I hear something back one way or the other, either on beta, or from support, or from your email address. Meanwhile I will just try to keep track of the bugs I'm sending. Thanks and Happy New Year! J -- J Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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Re: Feature requests/Canny after two weeks
And hashtags also only really work for viewing on the web. Email
recipients may gain some advantage but the threaded views in email clients largely make them superfluous - if only people would use the threading features of their email clients of course, many do not (and hashtags won't help them either). Although hashtags are occasionally used in the groups I own they are few and far between. Most people just don't know what they are about (myself included...). Dave On 1 Jan 2020 at 5:03, Samuel Murray wrote: I thought that hashtags only "work" if they are applied to the first http://davesergeant.com
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Re: Feature requests/Canny after two weeks
Chris Jones
On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 01:03 PM, Samuel Murray wrote:
I thought that hashtags only "work" if they are applied to the first post of a topic. Wouldn't this mean that you would have to turn beta into a moderated group, so that you can add hashtags before the messages go out?Members can add hashtags when they start a topic. However, at present the library of hashtags is (IMHO) a complete mess that is badly in need of rationalisation; if you don't believe me go and look at it. I am working towards putting a semi - finite proposal to Mark, probably within the next day or two. As it will be proposed via beta I daresay it might trigger one or two howls of protest but that's a risk I am prepared to take. Watch this space... although I might make it a new topic. Chris
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Re: Feature requests/Canny after two weeks
On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 06:03 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
This is an odd restriction. I understand that you might want to give people who pay money some kind of priority attention w.r.t. feature requests, but generally feature requests should be evaluated on their individual merits, and people who don't pay can also have some good ideas (and be able to formulate it properly). How hashtags work and the fact that they can/should be used, may be clear for you and for people who regularly frequent group where hashtags are being used, but if you want to rely on hashtags alone to separate bug reports from feature requests and from support requests, you're going to be only partly successful. On the other hand, I agree with what others have said: many bug reports are actually feature requests, and vice versa, so it's useful to deal with both types of tickets in a single system (not in e.g. two separate mailing lists, unless there is a feature whereby a thread can be "moved" to another mailing list). Is there a reason why you don't have two subgroups, RFE@beta and BUG@beta, where people can post feature requests and bug reports? People will still post feature requests and bug reports to the main group, but a lot of RFEs and bug reports will end up in the right place, and you can hope that such posts will be better formulated, too. I think that sometimes if people know that they're posting to a bug-report specific list, they'll formulate their bug reports better, whereas if they post to a general discussion group, they tend to let their fingers wander along with their thoughts. I thought that hashtags only "work" if they are applied to the first post of a topic. Wouldn't this mean that you would have to turn beta into a moderated group, so that you can add hashtags before the messages go out? Or are you (and moderators in general) able to add hashtags to posts after they've been posted? Samuel
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Re: OT: amazing cat toy
Looks a lot like a leggy catterpillar that my cats go wild over! Will make a nice NY 2020 gift for them.
-- Sandi Dickenson ASG Volunteers Group.
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Re: OT: amazing cat toy
KWKloeber
A black leather whip? Hmmmmmm.... Ken
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Re: OT: amazing cat toy
Haha! They’re all going to sell out now. 😊
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On Dec 31, 2019, at 10:35 AM, txercoupemuseum.org <ercoguru@...> wrote:
-- J Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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Re: OT: amazing /c/a/t dog toy
Glenn Glazer
With deference to the previous posters,
I'm very much a dog person not a cat person, so let me share with
you an AMAZING and cheap dog toy. Take an empty plastic water
bottle, stick it in an old sock and tie a knot on the sock. Dogs
love it because it simulates chewing on bones. Happy new years, Glenn
On 12/31/2019 10:23, J_Catlady wrote:
Lotta cat lovers in this group! Glad it’s appreciated. Seriously, the toy is unbelievable. -- PG&E Delenda Est
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Re: OT: amazing cat toy
txercoupemuseum.org
Bought one too!
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WRB —
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Re: OT: amazing cat toy
Lotta cat lovers in this group! Glad it’s appreciated. Seriously, the toy is unbelievable.
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Happy New Year to everyone, too! 😊🐱
On Dec 31, 2019, at 10:02 AM, Steve G via Groups.Io <racer91@...> wrote:
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J Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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Re: OT: amazing cat toy
Steve G
That's so funny ... the last thing I
expected on this list was to learn about a great toy my cat would
probably love (looks fantastic!) Thanks for the accidental post & Happy New Year!
On 12/31/2019 12:49 PM, Victoria via Groups.Io wrote:
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Re: OT: amazing cat toy
Never mind. Got cats too. Happy new year to you and your cat. Victoria
Von: main@beta.groups.io [mailto:main@beta.groups.io] Im Auftrag von J_Catlady
SORRY! Posted to wrong group. Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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Re: Please create settings option to disable tags
#suggestion
Chris Jones
On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 05:16 PM, Alois Treindl wrote:
please create an option to disable/ hide the hashtag feature.You can do this for yourself: In Admin > Settings > Message Policies > Hashtag Permissions; set this to Messages from Subscribers can only be tagged with existing hashtags, new hashtags will be removed and then go Hashtags and delete (via Edit) any that already exist. Chris
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