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moderated Re: Feature requests/Canny after two weeks

Samuel Murrayy
 

On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 06:03 PM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
- People who don't run premium groups cannot post to Canny.
This is an odd restriction.  I understand that you might want to give people who pay money some kind of priority attention w.r.t. feature requests, but generally feature requests should be evaluated on their individual merits, and people who don't pay can also have some good ideas (and be able to formulate it properly).

I thought of another way we could address this, using just the beta group and hashtags.
How hashtags work and the fact that they can/should be used, may be clear for you and for people who regularly frequent group where hashtags are being used, but if you want to rely on hashtags alone to separate bug reports from feature requests and from support requests, you're going to be only partly successful.  On the other hand, I agree with what others have said: many bug reports are actually feature requests, and vice versa, so it's useful to deal with both types of tickets in a single system (not in e.g. two separate mailing lists, unless there is a feature whereby a thread can be "moved" to another mailing list).

Is there a reason why you don't have two subgroups, RFE@beta and BUG@beta, where people can post feature requests and bug reports?  People will still post feature requests and bug reports to the main group, but a lot of RFEs and bug reports will end up in the right place, and you can hope that such posts will be better formulated, too.  I think that sometimes if people know that they're posting to a bug-report specific list, they'll formulate their bug reports better, whereas if they post to a general discussion group, they tend to let their fingers wander along with their thoughts.

If someone posts a feature request without the correct hashtag, I can just add it.
I thought that hashtags only "work" if they are applied to the first post of a topic.  Wouldn't this mean that you would have to turn beta into a moderated group, so that you can add hashtags before the messages go out?  Or are you (and moderators in general) able to add hashtags to posts after they've been posted?

Samuel


moderated Re: OT: amazing cat toy

Sandi D
 

Looks a  lot like a leggy catterpillar that my cats go wild over!  Will make a nice NY 2020 gift for them. 
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moderated Re: OT: amazing cat toy

KWKloeber
 

A black leather whip? Hmmmmmm....


Sent from my phone


Ken

Sent from my phone


moderated Re: OT: amazing cat toy

 

Haha! They’re all going to sell out now. 😊


On Dec 31, 2019, at 10:35 AM, txercoupemuseum.org <ercoguru@...> wrote:

Bought one too!

WRB

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On Dec 31, 2019, at 12:23 PM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

Lotta cat lovers in this group! Glad it’s appreciated. Seriously, the toy is unbelievable.
Happy New Year to everyone, too! 😊🐱


On Dec 31, 2019, at 10:02 AM, Steve G via Groups.Io <racer91@...> wrote:

That's so funny ... the last thing I expected on this list was to learn about a great toy my cat would probably love (looks fantastic!)

Thanks for the accidental post & Happy New Year!


On 12/31/2019 12:49 PM, Victoria via Groups.Io wrote:
Never mind. Got cats too.
Happy new year to you and your cat.
Victoria
 
Von: main@beta.groups.io [mailto:main@beta.groups.io] Im Auftrag von J_Catlady
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SORRY! Posted to wrong group. 
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu



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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: OT: amazing /c/a/t dog toy

Glenn Glazer
 

With deference to the previous posters, I'm very much a dog person not a cat person, so let me share with you an AMAZING and cheap dog toy.  Take an empty plastic water bottle, stick it in an old sock and tie a knot on the sock. Dogs love it because it simulates chewing on bones.

Happy new years,

Glenn

On 12/31/2019 10:23, J_Catlady wrote:
Lotta cat lovers in this group! Glad it’s appreciated. Seriously, the toy is unbelievable.
Happy New Year to everyone, too! 😊🐱


On Dec 31, 2019, at 10:02 AM, Steve G via Groups.Io <racer91@...> wrote:

That's so funny ... the last thing I expected on this list was to learn about a great toy my cat would probably love (looks fantastic!)

Thanks for the accidental post & Happy New Year!


On 12/31/2019 12:49 PM, Victoria via Groups.Io wrote:

Never mind. Got cats too.

Happy new year to you and your cat.

Victoria

 

Von: main@beta.groups.io [mailto:main@beta.groups.io] Im Auftrag von J_Catlady
Gesendet: Dienstag, 31. Dezember 2019 17:37
An: main@beta.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [beta] OT: amazing cat toy

 

SORRY! Posted to wrong group. 
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu



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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu



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moderated Re: OT: amazing cat toy

txercoupemuseum.org
 

Bought one too!

WRB

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On Dec 31, 2019, at 12:23 PM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote:

Lotta cat lovers in this group! Glad it’s appreciated. Seriously, the toy is unbelievable.
Happy New Year to everyone, too! 😊🐱


On Dec 31, 2019, at 10:02 AM, Steve G via Groups.Io <racer91@...> wrote:

That's so funny ... the last thing I expected on this list was to learn about a great toy my cat would probably love (looks fantastic!)

Thanks for the accidental post & Happy New Year!


On 12/31/2019 12:49 PM, Victoria via Groups.Io wrote:
Never mind. Got cats too.
Happy new year to you and your cat.
Victoria
 
Von: main@beta.groups.io [mailto:main@beta.groups.io] Im Auftrag von J_Catlady
Gesendet: Dienstag, 31. Dezember 2019 17:37
An: main@beta.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [beta] OT: amazing cat toy
 
SORRY! Posted to wrong group. 
-- 
J 

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu



-- 
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu



moderated Re: OT: amazing cat toy

 

Lotta cat lovers in this group! Glad it’s appreciated. Seriously, the toy is unbelievable.
Happy New Year to everyone, too! 😊🐱


On Dec 31, 2019, at 10:02 AM, Steve G via Groups.Io <racer91@...> wrote:

That's so funny ... the last thing I expected on this list was to learn about a great toy my cat would probably love (looks fantastic!)

Thanks for the accidental post & Happy New Year!


On 12/31/2019 12:49 PM, Victoria via Groups.Io wrote:

Never mind. Got cats too.

Happy new year to you and your cat.

Victoria

 

Von: main@beta.groups.io [mailto:main@beta.groups.io] Im Auftrag von J_Catlady
Gesendet: Dienstag, 31. Dezember 2019 17:37
An: main@beta.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [beta] OT: amazing cat toy

 

SORRY! Posted to wrong group. 
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu



--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: OT: amazing cat toy

Steve G
 

That's so funny ... the last thing I expected on this list was to learn about a great toy my cat would probably love (looks fantastic!)

Thanks for the accidental post & Happy New Year!


On 12/31/2019 12:49 PM, Victoria via Groups.Io wrote:

Never mind. Got cats too.

Happy new year to you and your cat.

Victoria

 

Von: main@beta.groups.io [mailto:main@beta.groups.io] Im Auftrag von J_Catlady
Gesendet: Dienstag, 31. Dezember 2019 17:37
An: main@beta.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [beta] OT: amazing cat toy

 

SORRY! Posted to wrong group. 
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu



moderated Re: OT: amazing cat toy

 

Never mind. Got cats too.

Happy new year to you and your cat.

Victoria

 

Von: main@beta.groups.io [mailto:main@beta.groups.io] Im Auftrag von J_Catlady
Gesendet: Dienstag, 31. Dezember 2019 17:37
An: main@beta.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [beta] OT: amazing cat toy

 

SORRY! Posted to wrong group. 
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Please create settings option to disable tags #suggestion

Chris Jones
 

On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 05:16 PM, Alois Treindl wrote:
please create an option to disable/ hide the hashtag feature.
You can do this for yourself: In Admin > Settings > Message Policies > Hashtag Permissions; set this to Messages from Subscribers can only be tagged with existing hashtags, new hashtags will be removed and then go Hashtags and delete (via Edit) any that already exist.

Chris


moderated Please create settings option to disable tags #suggestion

 

I like to run my group as close as possible to a traditional mailing list.
please create an option to disable/ hide the hashtag feature.


moderated option to Auto Follow Likes #suggestion

 

This suggestion is for an option to Auto Follow Likes, similar to Auto Follow Replies.
(Not sure whether to post on canny any more, so am posting here.)
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Re: Feature requests/Canny after two weeks

Marv Waschke
 

Canny is a nice interface, but, for me, it makes keeping up with groups.io more difficult because it is yet another thing to monitor. Using hashtags in beta to separate new feature requests, bugs, etc. may be a convenience for Mark when he is planning his work agenda. If he finds them useful, I'm in favor.
Best, Marv


moderated Re: OT: amazing cat toy

 

SORRY! Posted to wrong group. 
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated OT: amazing cat toy

 

My cats' feather wand toys were wearing out so I looked for a couple of new ones. Among the ones I ordered was this one:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00G90773S/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
It arrived yesterday, and wow!!! My cats are so obsessed with it that I had to share here. In all my years of cats, and billions of toys, I have never seen such an amazing reaction to a toy. (I'm almost afraid to post this because I'm afraid it will sell out or they'll raise the price.;) I just ordered two more, just in case!) They will play with non-stop, until *I* am the one worn out. I think it's the combination of the leather tassles and the feather. Who knows.
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J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu


moderated Update Delete Topic dialog to include topic title #suggestion

Louie S
 

I just had to delete an inappropriate topic from a group I moderate and accidental used the pull down menu from the previous topic. While there is a confirmation dialog it does not contain any information to identify the topic you are about to delete. I believe it would be very helpful for that confirmation dialog box to contain the topic title. That would very helpful and would probably prevented my from deleting the wrong topic.

tks,

-louie


moderated Re: Sometimes, clicking Like causes a draft message to be saved #bug

Christos G. Psarras
 

>>> ...  But if we click on view/reply online, there should not be a reply box automatically opened.  We can do that for ourselves once online by clicking the reply button. The problem is ... in the automatic opening of the reply form... <<<


Yes, the "View/Reply Online" link in the footer behaves differently in group digest*** emails vs group individual emails; the former will automatically open the reply box, the latter will not; i.e. the former includes the ?reply=1 parameter in the link, the latter does not.  So in the former case, any click on most all other options on the thread/topic page except the red Discard (draft) button will result in a saved blank message body draft.

The other two footer reply links behave the same, it's only this link that's different between the two.  I don't know what's the intent behind this difference, but IMO it should work the same on both.

Cheers,
Christos

*** (I only tested the Full-Feature digest, not sure if it also does the same on the plain or daily summary emails)



moderated Re: Non-permitted groups

 

Hi.  I am a lurker here, never post.   Always interesting to me to see the discussions.   On the group I moderate, this subject of rules comes up often.  Almost always brought up by someone who is more interested in the actual words, vs the spirit, of the rules.  As I usually remind people, we will never get every rule right - it’s just the nature of things.   Remember the spirit.  


The other thing we always remind people is that the First Amendment does not apply here - we are a private group.  Mark is right - if you don’t like it, you can go elsewhere.   It’s another sad reality that most people who quote the first amendment don’t understand it.  


Overall, kudos to Mark for establishing this space for all of us to use.  His rules, and the spirit of them, seem fair.  So does the application.  The wording could be better - perhaps remove the examples and make it about the concept (Mark - let me know if you would like some examples sent to you offline for you consideration).  


Stay warm everyone.   Here’s to 2020 being the best year it can be.  


moderated Re: Non-permitted groups

Bill in OKC too
 

Mark, I had to look it up to see why it would be a problem.  Personally, I don't see it as a problem. Anyone who doesn't want to be here is welcome to leave. You and I don't really agree politically, but you've never intruded your beliefs on me, and I try not to intrude mine on you. It is an axiom of our country that we're free to believe as we wish, and to associate as we wish. Anyone who doesn't like the few rules here can certainly find someplace else to be. I know you to be an honest and decent person despite our differences, as when I left groups.io in the middle of 2016 over problems with your Terms of Service, you addressed them by more clearly defining what you needed and exactly how you would use your access to our copyrighted data. Which is why I've been a happy paying customer since 

Bill in OKC

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)


A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
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moderated Re: Sometimes, clicking Like causes a draft message to be saved #bug

Janis
 

I agree with both of the above.  I often want to view online just to see the whole thread together, even though I have no wish to reply.  But if we click on view/reply online, there should not be a reply box automatically opened.  We can do that for ourselves once online by clicking the reply button. The problem is not the view/reply online button but is in the automatic opening of the reply form.  Once there we know how to click on reply.