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moderated Re: Testing new feature request/tracking system

 

I agree with Chris and had the same thought. This separation seems likely to cause a deluge of requests on canny by people completely unfamiliar with the product and who likely should be taking many of their concerns to GMF. There are already a few such requests. OTOH, it’s no problem for Mark to ignore such requests, and there seems to be no easy way around it besides possibly a restriction to having had a premium group for at least a certain amount of time. 


On Dec 26, 2019, at 4:20 AM, Chris Jones via Groups.Io <chrisjones12@...> wrote:

On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 12:22 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
I've restricted the login ability to people who are moderators or owners of premium groups only.
Mark; a large part of me fully understands this limitation (not least because of the possible costs involved inwidening it) but the "remainder" is a little concerned.

It seems to give an edge to those recently migrated from Yahoo who had to pay to relocate, and in many cases they may be reluctant Premium Group Owners, and almost by definition they are probably "inexperienced" group owners, at least as far as groups.io is concerned.

Meanwhile Basic Group Owners & Moderators, who are likely to be more experienced and possibly even more committed to the smooth operation of their Groups and by extension Groups.io itself, are locked out.

I hesitate to shout "isn't fair" for obvious reasons but I sincerely hope that the outcome is that any skewing of the suggestions that make the cut and get adopted simply doesn't happen.

Chris

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moderated Re: Testing new feature request/tracking system

Chris Jones
 

On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 12:22 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
I've restricted the login ability to people who are moderators or owners of premium groups only.
Mark; a large part of me fully understands this limitation (not least because of the possible costs involved inwidening it) but the "remainder" is a little concerned.

It seems to give an edge to those recently migrated from Yahoo who had to pay to relocate, and in many cases they may be reluctant Premium Group Owners, and almost by definition they are probably "inexperienced" group owners, at least as far as groups.io is concerned.

Meanwhile Basic Group Owners & Moderators, who are likely to be more experienced and possibly even more committed to the smooth operation of their Groups and by extension Groups.io itself, are locked out.

I hesitate to shout "isn't fair" for obvious reasons but I sincerely hope that the outcome is that any skewing of the suggestions that make the cut and get adopted simply doesn't happen.

Chris


moderated Re: Testing new feature request/tracking system

 

On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 7:31 PM <gillian@...> wrote:
I'm an owner of a premium group and can't log in to https://groupsio.canny.io/ . The error message just says "Oops sorry! Looks like something isn't working 😢 Please try again later."

I think this is fixed now.

Thanks,
Mark 


moderated Re: Testing new feature request/tracking system

Gillian Kerr
 

I'm an owner of a premium group and can't log in to https://groupsio.canny.io/ . The error message just says "Oops sorry! Looks like something isn't working 😢 Please try again later."

Requested feature: Multilingual capacity to the groups.io user interface so we can use it in Canada for national groups (which requires a French interface because we're a bilingual country). We could translate it into French. I'll add this feature request as soon as I can log into Canny.
Gillian


moderated Re: Yahoo Groups transfers on and extended to December 5th

 

I've also finally noticed the handy-dandy #transferupdate hashtag, which when muted will prevent yahoo-transfer messages from flooding your inbox, assuming the topic has been appropriately tagged.
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moderated Re: Yahoo Groups transfers on and extended to December 5th

Duane
 

On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 03:02 PM, Donald Hellen wrote:
This group is for product suggestions and bugs in the GIO system.
Mark has asked that this group only be used for suggestions on improvements and enhancement of features.  Bugs should be reported to support@groups.io  It doesn't hurt to check on GMF though, because things work a bit differently here than on YG, so some 'bugs' really aren't.

Duane


moderated Re: Yahoo Groups transfers on and extended to December 5th

Donald Hellen
 

The important thing to do now is request Yahoo to prepare a download
of your Yahoo groups before they no longer offer it sometime next
month. Then you can read about your options in posts on GMF.

Directions on how to do that are in both Yahoo and GIO GMF groups.
Join both and read posts going back a few weeks for information that
might be helpful.

This group is for product suggestions and bugs in the GIO system.

Donald

On Wed, 25 Dec 2019 13:45:58 -0700, "D R Stinson" <@steeplecab> wrote:

roup from Yahoo I am in this situation myself, and I suspect there will be new developments on this situation fairly soon.

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moderated Re: Yahoo Groups transfers on and extended to December 5th

 

> Hi Mark,
>
> New to Groups.io. I've searched all over looking for a step
> by step guide on how to transfer a YahooGroups archive
> and can't seem to find it, so here are some questions.
. . . . .
 
Steve -
This is probably a question better asked on the Group Managers Forum https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum . You don't need to be a member to read posts there, but I recommend joining it for the tremendous resource.
 
You are not alone, and your question is fairly common over there and worth doing a quick search of the messages = and especially the wiki there =.
 
As someone who is trying to rescue an orphan group from Yahoo I am in this situation myself, and I suspect there will be new developments on this situation fairly soon.
 
Dano
 


moderated Re: Yahoo Groups transfers on and extended to December 5th

Donald Hellen
 

Sorry about that. I was thinking this was a Group Managers Forum post.
Mark DOES read posts here but he's on vacation right now as I
understand it.

This is best discussed in the group manager's forum on GIO but the
wiki article should give you want you need to know besides what I
already posted.

On Wed, 25 Dec 2019 13:10:00 -0500, "Donald Hellen"
<donhellen@...> wrote:



This is a self-help group. Mark doesn't read the messages here.

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https://groups.io/g/ICOM
https://groups.io/g/Ham-Antennas
https://groups.io/g/HamRadioHelp


moderated Re: Yahoo Groups transfers on and extended to December 5th

Donald Hellen
 

Steve . . .

On Wed, 25 Dec 2019 00:35:02 -0800, "Steve G via Groups.Io"
<racer91=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi Mark,

New to Groups.io. I've searched all over looking for a step by step guide on how to transfer a YahooGroups archive and can't seem to find it, so here are some questions.
This is a self-help group. Mark doesn't read the messages here.

There is information about your question here:

https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Moving-to-Groups.io
(see option #1 near the end of the article above)

Your option for using the easy transfer from groups.io has expired
since Yahoo has shut off access to group content stored there.

Donald


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https://groups.io/g/ICOM
https://groups.io/g/Ham-Antennas
https://groups.io/g/HamRadioHelp


moderated Re: RFE: Three wishlist items w.r.t. Notes in Admin > Members

Christos G. Psarras
 

I second that feature request; besides other useful ways it can be used for, it would help in large groups with many mods.  For example, we have about 10 part-time mods in one of the groups I admin and having a visual indication on the main member listing screens would be helpful when trying to coordinate member approval as it would help eliminate sometimes-duplicate efforts.

I can also see where keeping specific-notes like Samuel does is also helpful, or as in keeping records for troublesome members for example.

Cheers,
Christos


moderated Re: Yahoo Groups transfers on and extended to December 5th

Steve G
 

Hi Mark,

New to Groups.io. I've searched all over looking for a step by step guide on how to transfer a YahooGroups archive and can't seem to find it, so here are some questions.

1.) I know that YahooGroups has shut down so you can't transfer directly from Yahoo any more. However, I have a download file that allegedly contains my entire YahooGroup archive including messages. It's a 1.8GB file. Are you able to import this or is it useless?

2.) If you're able to import/transfer my archive, what are the steps I need to take? Do I first setup a new matching group in Groups.io and look for the option to transfer data? Or do I send you a transfer request somehow and then you create the matching Groups.io when you do the transfer? This is not clear to me at all.

3.) I've read messages that mention a charge for the transfer. If so, how much is it? Are there any other charges associated with managing a group on your service?

Thanks very much for your reply & Merry Christmas!

Steve


moderated RFE: Three wishlist items w.r.t. Notes in Admin > Members

Samuel Murrayy
 

Hello

1. Please could you add a little icon next to the names of members for whom there are "Notes", in the list of members, so that I can see from that list that something was written about that member?

2. Also, when viewing a member's profile, please can you change the "Notes" button slightly whenever there is a note about that member, so that I can see that there is a note without having to click the button first to discover whether there is a note?

3. Finally, would it be possible to add an option to the Notes section that (when selected) will cause the Notes to appear on the main page for that member, so that I don't have to click the Notes button and go to an entirely different page before I can see the note about the member?

I realise that the "notes" may be used by different moderators for a variety of purposes, but I use it to write useful information about the member, e.g. their real name, who they really are, where they really come from, etc.

Thanks
Samuel


moderated Re: automatic deletion, why?

Laurence Marks <marks@...>
 

Outlawmws wrote
You may know this already,  (but your user may not...) while in most (maybe all) spam folders the mail is "killed" and you cannot respond.  You have to mark it as "not spam" then go find it in your inbox.  THEN it should work again?  (not sure SBC is that mature of an Email service.)

I was just going to write the same thing. For those who aren't aware, sbcglobal.net (and att.net, bellsouth.net, pacbell.net, snet.net. swbell.net, ameritech.net, nvbell.net) are operated by Yahoo. The webmail was slightly different from native Yahoo.com webmail--we had different bugs--but seems to be slowly converging.*

The 1987 MFJ broke up AT&T into the regional Bell companies (baby Bells). In the early-90s they began to offer dialup internet--there was no free email in the pre-Google/Yahoo days. With the advent of free Yahoo mail (1997) and Gmail (2004), free email service was no longer an enticement. It became a cost burden--especially in the support area. Yahoo was looking for subscribers (ad viewers) and the baby Bells were looking to get out from under email, so Yahoo began providing email for all the Bell domains listed in the previous paragraph.

*One major remaining difference between the Bell domains and native Yahoo is authentication (login/password). The Bell users (at least Bellsouth) have the same password for Yahoo.com and for att.com. If you change it at one place, the other changes too. I believe that AT&T runs a Radius server to do this, but that's just conjecture.

Larry



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moderated Re: automatic deletion, why?

outlawmws
 

You may know this already,  (but your user may not...) while in most (maybe all) spam folders the mail is "killed" and you cannot respond.  You have to mark it as "not spam" then go find it in your inbox.  THEN it should work again?  (not sure SBC is that mature of an Email service.)

  -Outlaw


moderated Re: automatic deletion, why?

Janis
 

The only reason I even posted a message about the member being removed here is so that Mark would have another record of an incident with SBC Global marking members messages as spam.  It is my understanding that this group is to give Mark information about issues.  The pist was not a request for help, but an FYI.  
The individual member will be the one to take care of his own business.  He was alteady added back to one of the groups.  I only am back here tonight to inform Mark that SBC will not allow him to open the invite to the other group.  And it was also in Spam!


moderated Re: automatic deletion, why?

Janis
 

Thanks outlawsmws.  That was one of our first topics aftervtransition but it will not hurt to remind everyone again.

I am peeved with SBCglobal now because they would not let him open the invitation I sent from Groups.io so he could rejoin!  So he will have to do a join request!




moderated Re: automatic deletion, why?

Janis
 

i am fully aware of that and the member is also aware of that but I worded it as it is worded in the notification topic for clarity.

Now his email is not letting him ope n the invitation I sent him!

So I will have him send a subscribe email.  Hopefully that will get him added back to the group.  SBCGlobal had moved a bunch of his mail to spam.  He had not been checking spam.


moderated Adding the date of the most current photo posted on the Album

Judy F.
 

I am the Moderator of a buying and selling group and, among other things, I have to check photos frequently to see if each photo has the required information on it. 

It would really help if a date appeared on the Album cover showing the date the most current photo was added.  By doing that, I don't have to open each album (7) to see the  date of the latest photo i each one. 

This was available on the Yahoo Group and it certainly saved a lot of time. 

Thank you,
Judy F.
SewItsForSale GIO
SW Florida - USA


moderated Re: Another Yahoo Groups outage

Thomas Gruber
 

Hi,
you can use Mozilla Thunderbird to handle MBOX files - but many other email programs will also open that I think. 
Thomas