I think we have to treat these announcements with care.  Yahoo refers to “your content” but that does not necessarily mean files and photos, for example.  It may only refer to messages posted by an individual, and no other messages.  The wording is obscure. 

My understanding of the change is that although “content” will generally be removed from December 14, “content” will remain until it has been extracted in response to individual requests.  

So by asking for our content, would that result in the extension of the content deletion date for a specific group? This is not a question I think we can answer here, but equally I doubt if Yahoo would answer it.  

Andrew

On 12/11/2019 8:49 AM, Juulz wrote:

Yup... that's what it says on the US site, too - not just the Canadian help page.  I imagine they will keep the database available to their tech team for creating zip files but take it off the websites. We'll see in three days!

And to demonstrate their competence, today I received an email with the December 14th request cutoff date, but this links to the page with the January 30th date.

--
Bill

Yup... that's what it says on the US site, too - not just the Canadian help page.  I imagine they will keep the database available to their tech team for creating zip files but take it off the websites. We'll see in three days!

Uh-huh, but there doesn't seem to be a workaround to be able to print or export any images in the database.....which is what I need.
Chuck

On 12/10/2019 6:11 PM, dave w wrote:

Frances
I fail to understand why you posted this.
It is neither relevant nor I would have thought helpful *on this date!
The title is misleading - it is old news, not current.
The page linked is common knowledge cited many times in current posts AND is public, as you say.*
FWIW, dave

This announcement at Yahoo has not been seen before today:

"We will continue to process requests to download your content as long as they are submitted by January 31, 2020."

The previous update from Yahoo was on December 7th, when they said: "If your download request is made by 11:59pm PST on Saturday, December 14, 2019, your content will not be deleted until your download is complete."

--
Bill

Rest up and feel better Mark - and get some R&R. You more than deserve it. I can't even imagine what life was like when YG finally made things "official", and all of the hanger-oners hit the panic button.

Travel safe and have great holidays,
Ginny
--
Ginny T.  gttemari21@...
========
TemariKai.com

Yes to print button and for images in the database to be printed as well.
The EXPORT DATABASE feature does not now include images.....this makes the database useless to me.  Can't use database whose images only exist in the ether.
Chuck

"Beginning October 28, new content won't be able to be uploaded to the site, and all previously posted content on the site will be permanently removed after December 14. We will continue to process requests to download your content as long as they are submitted by January 31, 2020. "

Source:  https://ca.help.yahoo.com/kb/SLN31010.html?impressions=true

See this wiki page on Group Managers Forum for what to do with your mbox download.
No group or Groups.io membership needed to read.
https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Moving-to-Groups.io

Frances

Yes, I think the group setting auto-lock (but I've no strong opinion about auto-moderate) would be more useful if it applied after a topic became inactive, rather than counting its age since first message.

Setting moderation for a topic which seems set to grumble on for ever is a decision I would usually give to the moderators' human judgement, rather than an automated timer -- but that, of course, depends on the nature of the group. The groups I help look after may not be typical; we use auto-lock as a way of preventing the occasional reply where the original discussion is long forgotten.

  - Mark

I will end with a request for 2020, which is to support transfer of pre-Easy Transfer from Yahoo messages into a groups.io account.  I have messages saved from Yahoo's own export/download process as well as PG Online.

Happy End of Year everyone,
Jon

And to be clear, we’re now talking about the group settings, not hashtag durations (which work a different way and should definitely not be changed to consider imactivity - they either delete or lock the topic based on age and have to stay thst way).

--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu
Note on an occupational hazard: I comment frequently in beta based on my desire for the betterment of groups.io as a product. Only a fraction of the time are my comments and suggestions specifically a matter of self-interest. Don't assume the latter when the former may be the case.

p.s. I do understand your idea. You're thinking the topics should be locked/moderated after they become inactive. But the purpose of the feature is to lock/moderate them when they simply reach a certain age, so that they don't go on (or go on without some sort of control) forever. Perhaps auto-lock could be changed to work that way, which does make some sort of sense. But I think auto-moderate should work based on age, not activity.
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu
Note on an occupational hazard: I comment frequently in beta based on my desire for the betterment of groups.io as a product. Only a fraction of the time are my comments and suggestions specifically a matter of self-interest. Don't assume the latter when the former may be the case.

The auto-lock/auto-moderate feature does not, and in my opinion *should not*, count days from last activity. That is not its intended function.

--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu
Note on an occupational hazard: I comment frequently in beta based on my desire for the betterment of groups.io as a product. Only a fraction of the time are my comments and suggestions specifically a matter of self-interest. Don't assume the latter when the former may be the case.

It would work well, I suggest, if the auto-lock or auto-moderate timer counted days since last activity on a topic, and treated unlocking by a moderator as an activity. I think the timer at present counts from the oldest message on a thread, rather than the newest, so an adjustment might be needed by groups using this feature.

  - Mark

I agree.  I recently asked for a $2.00 donation and my goal was reached by about 18 much more generous donors.  That might not always be the case, and the percentage of “freeloaders” can be large, depending on how well motivated a group’s members are.

CORRECTION: Actually I have to make a correction to my request. I had been saving up the request until beta was open to feature requests again, but I failed to look at my notes about it. The real issue is when the group itself (not a hashtag) locks or moderates messages after x days. There is no way to unlock or unmoderate timed-out topics in that case, other than to remove or change the group's entire setting in that regard. The hashtag issue is secondary.
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu
Note on an occupational hazard: I comment frequently in beta based on my desire for the betterment of groups.io as a product. Only a fraction of the time are my comments and suggestions specifically a matter of self-interest. Don't assume the latter when the former may be the case.

On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 12:48 PM, J_Catlady wrote:

The only way to unmoderate or unlock it is to change the hashtag duration

Or, of course, to remove the hashtag from the topic, which is probably normally undesirable.
 
--
J

Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together. - Desmond Tutu
Note on an occupational hazard: I comment frequently in beta based on my desire for the betterment of groups.io as a product. Only a fraction of the time are my comments and suggestions specifically a matter of self-interest. Don't assume the latter when the former may be the case.