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Re: Yahoo Groups transfers on and extended to December 5th
Ann Kelsey
My group completed the transfer set up protocol and everything transferred this afternoon. We are so grateful that the extension of the deadline and Mark's efforts allowed our group to successfully move from the yahoo platform to groups.io. Our group is small, but is so important to its members as a way of keeping memories and connections alive from a time and place long ago and far away. Thank you so much.
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Re: Another Yahoo Groups outage
On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 06:40 PM, Leslie Donovan wrote:
Hope you saw this from Bruce. Good luck!Leslie --- Although no harm was done, I ask that you please refrain from cross-posting my messages (or anyone else's) without permission. Thank you, Bruce
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Re: Another Yahoo Groups outage
Donald Hellen
Diane . . .
On Tue, 03 Dec 2019 03:55:45 -0800, "Yahoo Archive" <diane@frenchandlogan.com> wrote: As regards PGO-2-GIO it is my understanding that, for clearly obvious reasons, this will not go live until the Dec 14th YG cutoff OR it becomes impossible to move a group from YG to groups.io using the existing transfer facility provided by groups.io. I and a few others are working with beta versions of this program. (I've worked with the developer before and he's a really nice guy.) It will be set up to transfer groups' data but I can't say yet if you uploaded all the messages you archived up until now if you can still update it if there are more messages up until Dec 14. It will be limited to a certain number of messages per group depending on the license terms you pay for. I don't have the $ figures but they were posted here or in one of the GMF groups. Yahoo said they were cutting off new things going into the archive in late October I think but I still see new messages appearing so I run a catch-up on those groups to keep the messages current, rather than wait until Dec 14, since we don't know if Yahoo will hiccup at the wrong time and we won't be able to get those last few messages, ever. You will need PG Offline to back up your group data (messages, photos, files). Get that first and get started so that you're ready to upload them all when the time comes. Then you'll use the message archive and data you gathered to upload with the new program to a subgroup in your new group. Alternatively, you can start a new group and not invite any members and set yourself to receive no mail, then cut loose and fill up the group first with the old messages, then open it to new members and set yourself back to receive new posts. (If you're not set to nomail for the group or subgroup, expect thousands of messages in your inbox!) Donald ---------------------------------------------------- Join the Icom group, a general Icom (amateur radio) discussion group on Groups.io: https://groups.io/g/ICOM (recently launched, growing slowly) **also, a new self-help group dedicated to your cat's health: https://groups.io/g/CatVet (just launched)
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Re: Suggested change
On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 11:18 AM, Eric Johnson wrote:
It would take an hour or two to set this in place and the benefits would always be there.But there won't be any more YG transfers after Dec 5... Duane
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Re: Yahoo Groups transfers on and extended to December 5th
txercoupemuseum.org
Hi Patty,
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Your post made me think…(I just woke up). After checking with them, I find both of my cats are agnostic too. So I guess we’re BOTH “agnostic cat lovers" ;<) Best! WRB —
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Re: Suggested change
Eric Johnson
I agree that the crisis is close to over. However, the suggestion remains to cover any future moves be it one a week or a thousand. It would take an hour or two to set this in place and the benefits would always be there.
This is the beta group is it not? Eric
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Re: Suggested change
On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 10:31 AM, Eric Johnson wrote:
If I may be so bold . . .Well, given that there are only a couple of days left, it isn't feasible. And you would need to suggest this to Beta group that Mark monitors. But if people treated the process like a project, and followed each step, it might go easier. That being said, there is the spanner in the works - YG's acting up! I would print out the instructions and tick off each one as they are completed. Go carefully, step by step. Read everything! See these instructions - https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/message/22617 Or these with screenshots - https://groups.io/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Transfer-from-Yahoo-Groups Frances
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Suggested change
Eric Johnson
If I may be so bold . . .
I would suggest a field on each page dealing with the transfer process that asks for the email of the owner or person in charge. That way that person can be notified of the completion of the step and advised what they should do next. That should reduce the traffic here and on GMF regarding each transfer. Eric
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Re: Another Yahoo Groups outage
Yahoo Archive
As regards PGO-2-GIO it is my understanding that, for clearly obvious reasons, this will not go live until the Dec 14th YG cutoff OR it becomes impossible to move a group from YG to groups.io using the existing transfer facility provided by groups.io.
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Re: Another Yahoo Groups outage
I was a little surprised that I did get the files. The first file was 947 Mb and the second was 1.8 GB. Most frustrating was the fact there was no record of the group that Yahoo now insists didn't exist.I'm curious to see if I ever get anything. I requested the contents of theOn Sat, Nov 30, 2019 at 06:52 PM, Alisdair MacRae Birch wrote:That's actually somewhat scary! Does anyone have recommendations for an MBOX reader? Dano
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Re: Yahoo Groups transfers on and extended to December 5th
Mark is - at minimum - a demigod. Evidence? Yahoo has become a hellscape, so a spark of divinity was needed! Or maybe Mark is Thor, hammering away until Yahoo's servers give up the goods.
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Re: Yahoo Groups transfers on and extended to December 5th
Mark, you rock, you totally rock! We transferred our groups a while back (thank you!), and love groups.io. I told a whole lot of yahoo group folks about groups.io, and some of them did/are transferring their groups (some of them yelled at me, as others have noted). You have gone beyond multiple times! After all the ikk and mess at YG, it's so fine to see someone running a groups platform who obviously truly cares about the ability of people to have a well-functioning platform for groups.
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Re: Another Yahoo Groups outage
Patty--
Hope you saw this from Bruce. Good luck! Warmly, Leslie 
On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 01:48 AM, Mark (via Frances) wrote:
Therefore, I have turned back on group transfer requests and have extended the deadline until Thursday, December 5th at 9AM Pacific Time. Keep your fingers crossed that Yahoo's servers stay up that long.To be totally clear: This means you have to GIVE THE GO-AHEAD for your transfer (complete Step 5) by this deadline. Simply initiating a transfer, or paying for Premium Yearly, or completing any of those other preliminary steps will not ensure you a spot in the transfer queue. Do not procrastinate...get started on this NOW, so the delays involved in inviting the transfer agent and making it a Moderator do not come into play. Those who have paid but are not able to execute an Easy Group Transfer will issued a refund upon request. Just email Mark at support@groups.io and he will refund your money and delete your group. Bruce _._,_._,_
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Re: Another Yahoo Groups outage
On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 07:38 AM, Adrian Groenendyk wrote:
FYI, I have no idea how this product works, or whether it works at all. Mark
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Re: Another Yahoo Groups outage
On Monday, December 2, 2019, 10:39:11 AM EST, Adrian Groenendyk <amgroene1@...> wrote: Hi, I was successful at downloading all Yahoo email using PGO4. Do you have a link for PGO-2-GIO so I can move the mail to groups.io? Thanks, Adrian Send an email to info at personalgroupware.com ,_._,_ -- Larry Marks
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Re: Yahoo Groups transfers on and extended to December 5th
Katherine Fritz
Mark,
Thank you for your persistence in dealing with Yahoo's maddening failures and inconsistent performance. My family group transfer went through yesterday less than an hour after I hit the "proceed" button. I'm so grateful to you for all your hard work. best regards, Katie
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Re: Re= Re: [beta] Yahoo Groups transfers on and extended to December 5th
Mark, I'd send you flowers if I knew how! THANK YOU. I'm almost weeping with gratitude, and it's not just relief to have this sorted. I feel like I've found a group of people who embody what the Internet was like in those early days - a spirit of sharing, generosity, competence, and curiosity.
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Re: Re= Re: [beta] Yahoo Groups transfers on and extended to December 5th
On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 09:22 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote:
I'm hammering Yahoo's servers; I massively parallelized the crawler and also if it gets a failure, it retries a lot more times than before, in rapid succession.So all of this emergency life support for the dying patient has been going on behind the scenes, untouted and unrecognized, and probably even more of it prior to this, while meanwhile, Mark just tells us that he can "now transfer messages again." LOL. Giant kudos! -- J Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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Re: Re= Re: [beta] Yahoo Groups transfers on and extended to December 5th
On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 9:13 AM Patty Stokes <sandkittens@...> wrote:
This is a manifestation of Yahoo's latest issues. My changes yesterday to our crawler mostly work around this, and I'm seeing very few unretrievable messages since the changes went into effect yesterday. Basically, I'm hammering Yahoo's servers; I massively parallelized the crawler and also if it gets a failure, it retries a lot more times than before, in rapid succession. These are admittedly hostile behaviors, and if I was running Yahoo's servers, I'd not be pleased. But it seems to do the trick. Mark
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Re: Another Yahoo Groups outage
Leeni
-------Original Message-------
From: J_Catlady
Date: 12/02/19 10:18:53
Subject: Re: [beta] Another Yahoo Groups outage #transferupdate Knowing that eventually, there would be a mass migration, I jumped early. .. too many people that waited until the very last minute. Yahoo (Verizon) is the cause of this confusion and difficulty, and the blame should be placed right in their hands. -- J Messages are the sole opinion of the author, especially the fishy ones.
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